There are lots of threads that deal with this issue directly or indirectly. Use the search feature.
A sampling:
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-13158.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21876.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-37879.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-20587.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-37148.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-23357.html
A sampling:
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-13158.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21876.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-37879.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-20587.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-37148.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-23357.html