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(12-11-2014 01:50 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

One of the more depressing features of the manosphere is its conflation of right-wing, big business talking points with what is supposedly "masculine" and "good."

Big business, right-wing propaganda has convinced most young guys that any type of progressive, enlightened legislation is somehow unconstitutional, pussified, or conspiratorial.

It's almost as if these guys want to turn back to clock to what America was like in the early 1900s, when you had:

* Industrialized slave labor with no minimum wages
* Child labor
* No social security or workmen's compensation
* Total domination of the country by a handful of big corporations
* No health care
* Exploitation of natural resources and lands by corporations for their own profit.
* Unregulated pollution
* No labeling of food products or safety requirements

And it just goes on and on.

If it had not been for Teddy Roosevelt, none of the things that you guys take for granted would be here. Same thing for Franklin Roosevelt.

And back in the early 1900s, the big money interests made the same threadbare arguments they make today: "It's unconstitutional!" or "It's socialism"! or "It's the end of life as we know it!"

Teddy Roosevelt had no patience for such talk. The constitution was created for the people, not the other way around. Fundamental fairness and justice is what should be the proper concern of the government. The "free market" is mostly a sham where the deck is stacked against the little guy. Without a strong government to keep business greed in check, we would have revolutions and social disorder.

Government has a minimum responsibility to provide for the welfare and health of its citizens. It's that simple.

To take it a step further, consider the reasons for the end of the patriarchal family, where the father worked and the mother stayed at home. In the 1960s, it was possible for a man working as a construction worker, janitor, or retail clerk to raise a family on his salary while the mother took care of the children.

One of the crucial objects of converting people from "citizens" into "consumers" is that the economy has been reengineered to give women their own sources of income. Why? One red pill observation that Rollo once wrote about is that women are pandered to by advertisers and the media paid for by advertisers, because women consume a lot more stuff. Just look around and see the stores selling women clothes, shoes, accessories, etc. and compare them to the number of stores selling guy stuff.

I was in a mall in Bangkok (Platinum in Praturam) and pointed out to some Japanese guys looking at the ground floor directory with me that 5 out of the 6 floors were devoted to selling shit to women. They laughed knowingly.

The slow growth of wages, the financialization of the economy, the debt culture have also robbed the average working man of his dignity.

The market and its money drives societal change toward feminism and hedonism far more than SJWs, professors, or anything else. These forces make humans their witting or unwitting agents in political life.