[Icarus]

(10-04-2013 05:10 PM)Ridge Black Wrote:  

Israel is a natural enemy of the United states. They are a segregationist country that has based it's national identity on race (or religion depending on how you weight it).

The relations between Israel and the U.S. changed a lot since 1948.

• The war against the Arabs which Israel fought after its creation in 1948 was fought with Czechoslovak weapons. After Israel was established, the U.S. was very suspicious of Israel due to its ethnic-based communism (e.g., the kibbutz) and feared that Israel would become a Soviet satellite.
  

• The Six Day War in 1967 was won because Israel had French Mirage fighter jets that required very little maintenance and could fly several sorties per day.
  

• Israel became a strong ally of the U.S. after the Six Day War in 1967. Given that Kissinger came to the White House when Nixon became the president in 1969, that may explain why the alliance was forged. Kissinger is Jewish after all. Nixon hated Jews, however.
  

(10-04-2013 05:10 PM)Ridge Black Wrote:  

They agitate an Islamic religious movement that causes us no end of headaches. It could be fairly argued that without the creation of Israel there is no Jihadist movement and no conflict between Islam and the Western world.

Well, Islam has been at war with Europe for over 1300 years. The Spanish fought the Muslim Moors for almost 800 years. In Central and Eastern Europe, the Muslim Ottomans were the enemy for centuries.