[LeBeau]

NOTE: The below game does not require you to be young, live on campus, join a frat, or in certain cases, even be a college student. I say "better" in the title, not as a form of competition, but because this is more accessible for everyone.

Also, this was originally going to be a reply to a post in a different thread, but it got so big I felt it warranted it's own thread, here's the original post for reference: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-14257-...#pid502962

(07-31-2013 08:06 PM)obrero Wrote:  

Does anyone have anys experience/advice for pulling undergraduates out of class for an undergraduate older guy (27) like myself?
I've gotten girls numbers then studied together consistently but they always seem cold and cuntish while studying.

I'll break down your post, then springboard to some other stuff you can do as well:

You're not that much older in the grand scheme of things. However, you're old enough for it to be noticeable, you can have that go both ways. If you leverage this right, it can actually be MORE effective than being the same age as these girls. Easy examples are having your own car, and your own place.

You mention getting numbers for future studying. And studying together consistently. Couple problems with this game approach:

1) Intentions not congruent, and I'm sure it leaks through, many young guys try this route too.
2) Repeated exposure with the same tactics will get the same results
3) Serious studying for a lot of people these days has to be done alone, considering all the distractions, and there are fewer group projects or reasons to study together, along with the rise of online classes. That's why most people who study in the loud, common areas, are getting a small amount of work done, while they're able to be "seen".

(07-31-2013 08:06 PM)obrero Wrote:  

My gameplan has been to chat with the target during class, make small talk then "oh, yeah, are you ready for that test coming up? I need to study!" After said study session my plan has always been to get a drink (every girl at my uni has a fake id) and go for the bang.
I'm guessing I'm not building enough attratction/being funny enough/whatever, to make their twats wet. I think I'm putting off a "creepy old guy" vibe that makes them suspicious of my motives from the start.

If anyone had advice please share. I'm in a great situation right now but I'm not taking advantage of it!

Check your language and thought patterns. Just in this post alone you've used "cold and cuntish" and "getting twats wet".

If you're concerned about giving off a certain vibe, attitudes like that don't help build the right mentality here. There shouldn't be bitterness, too much seriousness, or looking at these girls from such a mechanical/transactional perspective. They can pick up on that stuff too. They still have a lot of idealism at that age even while they rationalize away their weekend behaviour.

Now, for better strategy and use of your time, I'll try to cover some areas I haven't seen much on this forum (apologies for any dupes).


School Clubs




I can't stress this enough, join a shit ton of school clubs, and use what extra time you have during the dates when they are promoting to meet people at their booths. For other guys reading this post, many clubs don't actually require you to be a student (depends on your school) since they are involved in the community. Some guys don't get this at first, and think too logically "Oh, well I'll never be able to commit to all these clubs, or I may not enjoy that activity once I try it".

That's not the point. You get put on email lists or FB groups for all the events with contact info. You go to the ones that work for you, and have an instant starting point for meeting new people. I see so much talk on here about learning new languages (i.e. software, private tutors, etc.) or visiting new countries, but I can't remember the last time someone suggested joining that specific language/cultural club at the local college.

I dated a girl I met through Scuba club years ago, and at the time I joined, I had never dived before, and didn't know if I'd really get into it. I just originally thought that Scuba was cool and was on my list for trying "eventually".

Also, clubs have budgets that admin prefers they use up within that school year. If you're concerned about money, keep in mind that depending on how many people sign up, or how many remain, you get hook ups that might even be worth much more than the cost to sign up.

Hell, you can even suggest your own parties, or recommend going to a bar/club on certain nights. If you don't want to take the time to have a formal "position" in the club (not necessary), this is a great way to take the lead, and organize various gatherings, and even combine clubs or your own social circles.

Think of how great it would feel to know that on a certain night, you have multiple clubs or friend circles, all coming to your place, or a spot you have on lock, where it's guaranteed they'll also be bringing people that you haven't met, but they feel comfortable, since they have an "in" with you. The younger crowd usually gets their first taste of event planning in college, so you can even offer to help them with certain ones too from a position of experience, or perform if you have some kind of talent (i.e. I got asked to help with a sorority fashion show last minute and had my drinks comped for the afterparty).

I'm sure there's more I could expand on here, but these are enough of a foundation for this area...


In Class

Forget studying together. The goal here is quantity, not depth. You want to be the guy who has the confident, witty comments (if speaking to prof. or in front of class), and can go just a little bit beyond small talk to make things more personal (i.e. if sitting together during lectures). No need to work on one girl you sit besides all semester till she's telling you her boyfriend problems. You've heard the term "work husbands"? Well girls often have in class boyfriend types to help them and give them attention.

You should be doing enough to get your name out, be a bit memorable, and get contact info for later.

This allows you to again take the lead on organizing, "We should all meet for a drink after this exam is done!"

Or, when you're outside class, and happen to see each other, there is a pretext for talking, introducing her friends, etc. Don't be the guy who opens at the bar with "Hey, I know we never talked, but I remember you from biology last year."

The way I see it, waiting most of a semester to make a move on a girl is like it's own form of one-itis, or at the very least, similar to waiting all night on a date to go for a kiss. The only time it makes sense to wait, is for advanced game, like teaching assistants, lab staff, tutorial coordinators, etc.


Campus Events (Again, you may not even need to be a student):




This is for stuff that doesn't already occur through school clubs. I'm talking guest lecturers, film nights, theatre plays, sports games, concerts, etc. Check the cafeterias (you're already there opening, right?) and main communal areas for flyers, and pick up copies of the school newspaper. This is good once again for targeting niches or certain social circles, and many of the same points apply here that I mentioned for school clubs. The difference being that these are often one shot events, and you can approach more, and more directly, than school clubs. Get there early, get some introductions done, then you can follow up after the event, and bounce somewhere else, or host an impromptu afterparty if there isn't one already in place.


^ I'm getting tired and I can probably write a lot more, but for now, I'll try to summarize the general theory behind all of the above:

I'm a big advocate of living your life according to what you enjoy, then tweaking or refining certain aspects to make it easier to meet people.

For those who understand finance, and derivatives, I try to approach a lot of game (and life) as a call option. You have the ability to invest in a situation, girl, social group etc. if it meets a positive threshold (strike price) and looks profitable. But you're also are not required to risk anything beyond your initial time/work (premium) if the upside isn't realized.

Take action that creates asymmetry in your favour. Manage your risks, but push your comfort zone enough to create uncertainty that could lead to big payoffs.