Quote: (07-30-2013 12:18 AM)LeCorbusier Wrote:
From Wikipedia:
Hypocrisy is the state of pretending to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually have. Hypocrisy involves the deception of others and is thus a kind of lie.
Hypocrisy is not simply failing to practice those virtues that one preaches. Thus, an alcoholic's advocating temperance, for example, would not be considered an act of hypocrisy as long as the alcoholic made no pretense of sobriety.
I want to better understand your thinking, that is the win for me. The issue as I see it is that Minter made a pretense of not wanting intimacy, yet he secretly wanted intimacy. If he came out and said, "guys I changed my mind, I now believe in intimacy" then he wouldn't be a hypocrite. It is because he pretended to have the principle and yet actually did not that people are upset. The pedophilia analogy holds here my friend, for that too is an example of pretending to have a moral belief that one does not have. Once again, I am not saying Minter is like a pedophile.
Are you suggesting that Mark secretly knew that he wanted intimacy? Could be, I don't know.
I've already agreed with you that his actions were hypocritical.
Where we disagree seems to be whether knowledge that future actions would be out of line with ones previously stated views should alter a mans future actions. I see that all beliefs are subject to change, even publicly stated beliefs and even so called "principles", whatever those are.
I personally don't care if he was hypocritical. He lacked self knowledge, is my guess. I doubt he deliberately misled anyone.
I agree that his lack of self knowledge says something about the man. I disagree that this should be any impediment to him changing his mind.
Edit: I'd wager he still lacks self knowledge, and doesn't even realize that his previous stance was anti-intimacy, and that his new action is based on wanting intimacy. He probably frames it to himself as some sort of mating strategy. Such out of focus views on his own inner workings suggests he'll have a tough time with LTR game. He doesn't even know how HE works, let alone how women work.
I may as well take the opportunity for a mild dig at some fellow forum members. Some guys truly believe that there is no possibility of engendering meaningful love and devotion out of a woman. The same guys seem unaware of any need inside of themselves for any real intimacy with women. Coincidence?