I've been waiting awhile to post here. Been reading this forum for several months and decided to wait for my 39th (tomorrow) to chime in. I have alot to say and don't want to clutter up the board with multiple new threads, so this will be my place to cast my thoughts. Sort of a stream of consciousness repository.
It will also keep me from hijacking other people's threads. Nasty habit I'm trying to cure myself of. I can be quite tangential at times. ADHD and all that.
Yeah I hear you, "get on with it already". So here goes...
Feminism is a failure of philosophy, not of genetics.
There is much loud noise made on this board about the failure of women to adequately compete with men on a physical, intellectual, and economic level. This failure has been seen as the inability of women to compete with men because of inherent genetic weakness. While this view (widely but not universally held on this board) is emotionally satisfying, it is ultimately more rhetorical than factual.
Women, for a great many genetic reasons are physically weaker than men. This is why they are failing to meet combat standards in the military's infantry experiment. We can measure that weakness by how much weight they can carry, how far they can carry it, and the failure rate to complete basic soldier tasks vis a vis their male counterparts. But one poster claimed that 80% (or some such nonsense) of women would freeze up in combat. There is no way to measure what a trained soldier will do in combat until that soldier engages (or is engaged by) the enemy. The point is, physical weakness can be easily measured, mental weakness not so much.
It is important to note that these integration reforms are NOT being pushed by females in the military, but by feminist advocacy groups in the political realm who have largely never served in the military much less combat. They have no idea of what it takes to be a soldier. Most women are not capable of completing even basic soldier's tasks like carrying a wounded comrade or ruck marching with full battle rattle from one camp to the next. It looks easy enough when you see other people doing it, but it's totally different when it's you get your ass smoked on Sand Hill.
When the women fail, here will come the excuses: "the equipment is too heavy, they should make it lighter", "the men didn't do enough to help", "the training is psychologically abusive", and so on. Never mind that men have been doing these things for years and becoming better stronger men as a result.
But the failure is not one of genetics, it's one of accountability. Women need to accept their limitations physically and not always be looking to claim victim-hood when they set themselves up for failure. I just had the conversation with my feminist mother over birthday lunch today: women want the privileges of being men without the accountability that goes along with it. Rape (both statutory and "forcible") is the perfect test case for the failure of feminism.
I recently watched the feminist propaganda film "The Invisible War". This movie is an excellent expose' on the lack of female accountability in our society, even though it was never meant to be. It was meant to scare and shock. But having seen how a sex case is actually prosecuted, I can tell you that what these women say exposes the lack of a rape culture rather than the existence of one.
For the record, there are some cases in this film that seem like they merit further investigation, as physical evidence was provided. But they are the gross minority. Most of them are he-said/she-said cases in which the film portrays the women's accusations as absolute fact when there is nothing to corroborate them. A typical case is the female Marine LT who makes an accusation against a Major outside her command. The two of them get drunk, go back to his place and sex occurs. Her position is that she was intoxicated and therefore could not consent to the sex act. Never mind the fact that if she killed someone with her car this would not be a defense, but he was drunk too. This is not a failure of a genetic nature, it is a philosophical one. Why does she believe that she is not responsible because she was drunk, but holds the man to a different standard? Should he not be entitled to claim innocence by means of intoxication as well?
Accountability. This is the failure of feminism. Not genetically inferior women. This female LT, by all accounts was very capable of doing her job (contrary to popular belief most military officers are administrators/bureaucrats not warriors). Her intelligence and work ethic were never in question. But her ability to be accountable for herself led to the end of her military career. She made an accusation that she could not substantiate and nearly cost this other officer both his marriage and his career. The feminist producers of the film seem oblivious to the obvious. But they are not. Their angle, their goal, is to give women super-citizenship such as exists in the Black community. Equal legal rights, with superior social freedom. I call you a cracka ass muthafucka all day long and nothing happens. Call me nigger once and you can expect to hear from my lawyer.
If we're to win the argument we must dispel the genetic argument. It's a loser. You can't prove that men are smarter, work harder, or have better business acumen. But you can fight for complete accountability for women. I'm all for female CEOs and even a female President, as long as she's accountable for herself and her behavior just as a man would have to be.
It will also keep me from hijacking other people's threads. Nasty habit I'm trying to cure myself of. I can be quite tangential at times. ADHD and all that.
Yeah I hear you, "get on with it already". So here goes...
Feminism is a failure of philosophy, not of genetics.
There is much loud noise made on this board about the failure of women to adequately compete with men on a physical, intellectual, and economic level. This failure has been seen as the inability of women to compete with men because of inherent genetic weakness. While this view (widely but not universally held on this board) is emotionally satisfying, it is ultimately more rhetorical than factual.
Women, for a great many genetic reasons are physically weaker than men. This is why they are failing to meet combat standards in the military's infantry experiment. We can measure that weakness by how much weight they can carry, how far they can carry it, and the failure rate to complete basic soldier tasks vis a vis their male counterparts. But one poster claimed that 80% (or some such nonsense) of women would freeze up in combat. There is no way to measure what a trained soldier will do in combat until that soldier engages (or is engaged by) the enemy. The point is, physical weakness can be easily measured, mental weakness not so much.
It is important to note that these integration reforms are NOT being pushed by females in the military, but by feminist advocacy groups in the political realm who have largely never served in the military much less combat. They have no idea of what it takes to be a soldier. Most women are not capable of completing even basic soldier's tasks like carrying a wounded comrade or ruck marching with full battle rattle from one camp to the next. It looks easy enough when you see other people doing it, but it's totally different when it's you get your ass smoked on Sand Hill.
When the women fail, here will come the excuses: "the equipment is too heavy, they should make it lighter", "the men didn't do enough to help", "the training is psychologically abusive", and so on. Never mind that men have been doing these things for years and becoming better stronger men as a result.
But the failure is not one of genetics, it's one of accountability. Women need to accept their limitations physically and not always be looking to claim victim-hood when they set themselves up for failure. I just had the conversation with my feminist mother over birthday lunch today: women want the privileges of being men without the accountability that goes along with it. Rape (both statutory and "forcible") is the perfect test case for the failure of feminism.
I recently watched the feminist propaganda film "The Invisible War". This movie is an excellent expose' on the lack of female accountability in our society, even though it was never meant to be. It was meant to scare and shock. But having seen how a sex case is actually prosecuted, I can tell you that what these women say exposes the lack of a rape culture rather than the existence of one.
For the record, there are some cases in this film that seem like they merit further investigation, as physical evidence was provided. But they are the gross minority. Most of them are he-said/she-said cases in which the film portrays the women's accusations as absolute fact when there is nothing to corroborate them. A typical case is the female Marine LT who makes an accusation against a Major outside her command. The two of them get drunk, go back to his place and sex occurs. Her position is that she was intoxicated and therefore could not consent to the sex act. Never mind the fact that if she killed someone with her car this would not be a defense, but he was drunk too. This is not a failure of a genetic nature, it is a philosophical one. Why does she believe that she is not responsible because she was drunk, but holds the man to a different standard? Should he not be entitled to claim innocence by means of intoxication as well?
Accountability. This is the failure of feminism. Not genetically inferior women. This female LT, by all accounts was very capable of doing her job (contrary to popular belief most military officers are administrators/bureaucrats not warriors). Her intelligence and work ethic were never in question. But her ability to be accountable for herself led to the end of her military career. She made an accusation that she could not substantiate and nearly cost this other officer both his marriage and his career. The feminist producers of the film seem oblivious to the obvious. But they are not. Their angle, their goal, is to give women super-citizenship such as exists in the Black community. Equal legal rights, with superior social freedom. I call you a cracka ass muthafucka all day long and nothing happens. Call me nigger once and you can expect to hear from my lawyer.
If we're to win the argument we must dispel the genetic argument. It's a loser. You can't prove that men are smarter, work harder, or have better business acumen. But you can fight for complete accountability for women. I'm all for female CEOs and even a female President, as long as she's accountable for herself and her behavior just as a man would have to be.