Quote: (12-21-2012 07:29 PM)Humanist Wrote:
I consider Roosh and Heartiste to be the Lennon and McCartney of the manosphere (which one is Lennon and which is McCartney is a matter for debate).
I've browsed some of the other blogs of this nature and nobody else seems to come close. Roosh and Heartiste are simply in a league of their own. Rational Male is pretty strong, perhaps even on their level. But is there anyone of this level that I am missing?
Honestly, I don't view Roosh and Heartiste as being at the top of the game. They're niche and I get value mostly for their political writings which are fairly astute.
The reason I feel this way is that my definitions of "Alpha" and "good game" is completely off the scale of what most guys here know. keep in mind that I'm someone who has spent a LOT of time hanging around bikers, Special Forces guys, guys who run escort agencies, and the like. What most of you call "alpha" would last about a fifteen minutes around those types of guys. Same for "game". I know guys who get as many girls in a weekend as Roosh has said a good player will get in a year.
That doesn't mean you all are wrong. It's just a very different world than the ones I'm familiar with.
In terms of game there are some personalities who, in their heyday, blew anyone from the "PUA" community out of the water. Player Supreme's old podcast shows are gold, as were some of the old poster's on the Pimp's network.
Disclaimer is that most of that stuff is NOT for amatuers. Nerds will just get themselves in trouble trying to use techniques from that level of the game. It's basically the same as trying to teach black belt techniques to someone who just walked in the dojo.