Quote: (03-24-2012 09:59 AM)Pilgrim37 Wrote:Oh, because people didn't kill people before guns were invented?
Oh,and don't get me started on Florida's ,and the USA's gun laws in general!Want to stop so many shootings...get rid of so many guns!
Because criminals will abide by gun control laws while breaking laws against homicide, burglary and rape?
Here is a case from gun unfriendly New Jersey: http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/04/man_fatally_stabs_exgirlfriend.html
Gun control worked. No one involved had a gun. A police station was nearby. A hospital was nearby. 911 was called. The woman even had a male to defend her. If shit is going to go down, this is a gun control advocate's wet dream.
But it didn't matter, innocent people were killed. If you ban guns, those with criminal intent will either procure a gun illegally (pretty much any crime one is looking to commit with a gun - armed robbery, rape, murder - carries a stiffer penalty than illegal possession of the gun, so if they are risking the greater criminal conviction, why would they give a shit about the lesser conviction?), or they will use whatever is at hand. Shall we outlaw knives? Bats? Pipes? Fists?
We cannot legislate away violence anymore than we can legislate away our sexual natures. But we can stop interfering with the ability of law abiding citizens to defend themselves.
Pilgrim, I don't mean to pick on you. The sad reality is that Americans grow up in a very anti-gun culture, so most Americans have a negative view of guns that is fueled by misinformation. This is pretty similar to how most guys grow up misinformed about women. Just as with women and relationships, one has to look past the pretty lies spewed by the gun control advocates and the overwhelmingly anti-gun media.
Here is an example of anti-gun propaganda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QjZY3WiO9s
To the uninformed viewer, this piece seems to make a compelling case. Skim through the comments - the commenters do a good job of pointing out all the ways this scenario was engineered to make the argument they were peddling. This is the case for pretty much every single anti-gun media piece I have seen - full of lies and distortions - but just like guys who grow up being told to be nice to girls and watching Hollywood movies where the nice guy gets the girl, if you hear a message often enough, without any exposure to the other side, you tend to believe it.