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EGYPT!
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EGYPT!

I've lived in Egypt for two years, and slept with a handful of Egyptian girls, so let me bust out a data sheet for you on this one. It certainly is possible to bang Egyptian girls, but you have to choose your targets very carefully, since probably 90% of the girls here are not open to sex before marriage.

There are basically three types of Egyptian girls who will be DTF:

Gringo chasers: Westernized girls, usually upper middle-class, who for some reason only ever date foreigners, either because they're social climbers, gold diggers, or because the local men won't touch them for some reason. They're the easiest bet if you want to sleep with an Egyptian girl quickly and easily. The catch is that they're looking for status and lifestyle, so while they might gravitate to a player like Mixx, it will be hard to keep up with them if you're just a backpacker or a student. Of course, they're angling for commitment, but if you keep your intentions vague or even downright lie, you can sleep with them even on the second date. In general in Egypt, people say the "I love you" a lot sooner into a relationship, so if you have no qualms about mouthing such things, that might put you over the goal line.

Venues: these girls hang out at any high-end place where the more professional foreigners congregate. Check out especially Harry's Pub in the Zamalek Marriot, La Bodega (also in Zamalek), and the ACE Club and the BCA in Maadi. You may also find them at some of the nightclubs, such as the Cairo Jazz Club in Agouza and Stiletto in the Dokki Sheraton.

Style of game to run: Suited down.

Upper-class girls: Upper-class girls in Egypt are very Westernized, with at least some of the openness towards sex that comes with it. Sexy, fashionable and cultured, they are very high-caliber girls. Hence, they are very hard to pull. Since most likely they've traveled extensively in the US or Europe, there is no "gringo effect" on them, and dating a foreigner would most likely be a step down for them. They're after the big fish in their own country. Although they look down on most things Egyptian and don't follow traditional Egyptian sexual mores, they move in very restricted social circles and so they do face a lot of scrutiny from peers who would not approve of them dating a foreigner.

Style of game to run: Being affluent yourself helps. You also need to stand out from the typical foreigner. Although these girls often disdain to speak Arabic even though it's their native language, if you know Arabic well it will make you stand out.

Venues: the playgrounds for these types of girls are in Zamalek (old money) and Heliopolis (new money). The restaurants and cafes in these neighborhoods will contain loads of them. However, these are not the best venues to pick them up, since they'll usually be sitting with a crowd of friends -- a difficult approach in any country, but exponentially moreso in Egypt.

The American University in Cairo is actually a really good place to meet this kind of girl, since only the upper class can afford to send their children there. I swear to you that you will be hard pressed to find any girl less than a 7 on AUC's campus -- and when you spot one, she'll probably be an American. It's a great place for day game.

The City Stars mall in Nasr City is another good day game location (or day-game style, since you can hit this place up even at nighttime), and you'll find this kind of girl there, among others. Other good venues are Amici in Zamalek (the closest thing to an American style bar in Cairo), and the nightclub Tamurai -- but you'll need deep pockets for those.

Open-minded middle class girls: this is the type of girl where you have to be more discriminating, since there are many such girls who love the idea of dating a foreigner -- not always, as you might think, because they want a visa, but because they don't like the way Egyptian men act in relationships (needy, insecure, and jealous). The problem is that a lot of them might date you, but they'll still be virgins and not really down for sex. Now they'll be willing to do things with you that they wouldn't do with an Egyptian guy, but even still, trying to deflower an Egyptian girl would be a several month project, and success is far from guaranteed. However, there are a number of such girls who -- for whatever reason -- have already lost their virginity and are DTF. These aren't always the most attractive girls, but they are pretty easy. The gringo effect is usually enough to win them over. Knowledge of Arabic will also be useful, since their English is usually not as good as that of the other two categories of girls I mentioned.

Venues: of course, you'll run into middle-class girls everywhere in Cairo -- City Stars in particular will have a good selection -- but in general it will be hard to distinguish those who are open-minded from normal repressed girls from the get-go. Couchsurfing in particular is a good place to find this type of girl, though.

If you're thinking about pipelining, Couchsurfing and Facebook are probably the best two sites. Egyptians absolutely love Facebook -- maybe even moreso than Americans -- and Egyptian guys have been know to use Facebook as a dating website by hitting up girls they don't know. In a country where there's a lot of risk in a face-to-face seduction, some girls are willing to go along with it.

Badoo is just for prostitutes, and OkCupid is a desert of girls who neither put up their pictures or fill out their profile -- lest they be identified. They just stalk you anonymously.

A few general notes on Egyptian girls: In general in Egypt, relationships move very quickly on the emotional level, and glacially slow on the sexual level. Typical Egyptian couples will probably be saying "I love you" within the first week of dating. While dating, they will be in near constant contact, calling each other several times a day. Egyptian men are very controlling and jealous, and will forbid their girlfriends from talking to other men and the like.

Although the kind of girls who date foreigners do not entirely share this general mindset, they are not entirely free from it either. Even when they move fast sexually, they'll probably expect to move fast emotionally as well, and will need lots of attention from the beginning. This is not like the US with its 48 hour phone call rule. These girls have an almost comical lack of the girl game we expect from dealing with American girls. For example, if you don't answer their calls, they will probably keep calling you until you answer. Needless to say, there's no need to practice "aloof game" here. You'll be more aloof than necessary just by being a normal human being. They'll also respect you more if you are a little bit controlling and set boundaries for them, and even show a little jealousy. This is how "manliness" is defined in Egyptian culture, and if you don't do these things, then you're not a real man.

One final tip: phone game is more crucial in Egypt than elsewhere -- and by that, I mean talking on the phone, not texting. Girls you're dating will want to be having long phone calls on a regular basis. And especially in the early stages, the phone is the best way to feel a girl out and find out how far she's willing to go. It's hard to get a good read on a girl based on how she acts in a public setting, since she feels the scrutiny of other Egyptians around her, but in the privacy of her own room, on the phone, she's able to let loose.

I could go on, but then...someone has to write a Bang Egypt.
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