[TravelerKai]

(08-14-2014 10:56 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

I have to agree with Kai on a lot of points he made in this thread.

The fundamental reason why you see so many horror stories about FSU women is because very beta guys believe they can take a short cut. They don't work on themselves first and foremost and bought into the whole "mail order bride" hype. So some slob from middle America thinks he can just go and pick any woman from an online service, throw a visa at her, and make it work. This becomes a recipe for disaster because the guy is still beta to the core. Guys like this also have a false sense of cultural/economic superiority and believe that being from the first world is all that matters.

The girls who are fishing see some guy that is obviously weak and natural hypergamy kicks in. They move in for the kill. Maybe she doesn't even need to do much to encourage this. The guy does most of the work for them through supplication and white knight syndrome.

You see these same stories repeated ad infinitum in Southeast Asia too. Some tool from Britain, the U.S., etc.. comes over marries some random bar ho or club skank and gets taken. They cry on an internet forum about it, everyone has a laugh. the end.

Except they start fearmongering campaigns all across the manosphere and other dating related websites out of bitterness, shame, and even jealousy of their own failures compared to other's success. They start shitting on ALL women from X country, or shitting on ALL foreign women. I personally hate this because it hurts one of the biggest tools the manosphere has. Convincing men to get a passport and get out of the fucking country, just even once. Then they get guys to just blindly repeat the same old tired talking points.

I'm not saying everyone needs to get married to a foreign wife, but when people take a shit on foreign wives they also hurt some young or old guy that has been through hell in his home country, but is lurking and trying to learn. Or just looking for solutions to a goal. What makes these comments dangerous is that if you ask or look at guys saying these things with conviction is if they have never traveled anywhere, nor anywhere close to the countries in question, ever married anyone at all or even bothered looking for a wife anywhere.

Even comparisons of "foreign women" to domestic versions that immigrated or were born in the US, are not usually valid or realistic. 2nd generation of some ethnic group is basically a regular American girl. You even have guys making crazy statements comparing Taiwanese-Americans to Mainland Chinese, and that is just too far from correct. It's too easy to make mistakes on things like this, just like how someone corrected me on the use of EE women and FSU women.

Just because marriage is pretty much dead in the US, does not make it so outside the country. We should take extra care not to export American/Western Dysfunction to other countries. If you go there dragging all of your baggage: Being beta and lack of male assertiveness/leadership, western social dysfunction (like teaching Russian women how to use nigga), dogmatic religious views, Western political views ethics and values, hatred of foreign food, hatred of foreign alcohol, hatred of foreign customs as inferior to yours, negative attitudes toward the poor, etc. etc. you will fail miserably abroad. You have to blank out all your programming and be willing to learn new things, new culture, new language, new women, etc. Every country and culture has shitty women and if you do not know how to run game on them, why wouldn't you fail? Just because one dude grabbed a few good ones from a random bar, when there was 11 bad ones that were hotter around there? He was just either lucky or there was something he did not tell you, or he wanted you to fail by keeping his techniques secret, because he does not want any losers ruining his pussy paradise.