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Man kills himself after model wife divorces him, hooks up w/ Leo DiCaprio
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Man kills himself after model wife divorces him, hooks up w/ Leo DiCaprio

It is difficult to overstate how challenging it can be to get involved with a physically elite woman like this. That difficulty can vary a little depending on her disposition.

If she is generally not an aggressive attention-seeker, things get a bit easier. There do exist extremely beautiful women out there who are wholeheartedly committed to their men. Though many are models who make a living by drawing attention to their beauty, these same women will often calm any questions regarding their loyalty by publicly honoring their partners, making frequent public appearances with them (and including plenty of PDA), and avoiding any appearance of indiscretion. You will never catch these women in a situation similar to that in which Cleary was in with Leo DiCaprio (looking as though she's about to hook up with him in public and getting photographed doing so). If they're seen with other men in public, it is either a) a blatantly platonic (often gay) friend or b) their signifcant other. That is it.

Men who can find a physically elite woman who is loyal like this before subsequently earning her loyalty are in a great position. These women don't go out of their way to solicit attention from other men in public spaces, and are willing return any emotional investment they receive from these men with an equal amount of investment of their own.

The kind of physically elite woman that makes life difficult, however, is the aggressive attention seeker. This is the beautiful woman who is so insecure about her beauty that she requires constant validation of it in the form of blatant attention from other men, and she will often directly seek out such attention herself. To some degree, this kind of woman will always value the attention of other random individuals more than she values the attention you give her.

This is what makes her hard to be with, because she will constantly and intentionally seek that attention/validation from other men and stoke your own insecurity in order to satiate her own. You will want her for yourself and you'll have a vision of her in which she is ideally focused on building something with you, but she will eternally push back against that vision. If at any time you appear to be getting too close to that ideal you want (you two are starting to look like a set pair and she is starting to look like she is truly off the market and in your orbit entirely), she will adjust by deliberately seeking attention from other men in order to balance things out. She does this because she understands the risk associated with investing in you and allowing herself to become entirely yours: she needs the constant attention and validation of other men in order to deal with her insecurity, and this attention is less likely to come when she is seen to clearly belong to another male in a marriage/relationship. The more available she makes herself appear to be, the easier it is for her to satisfy her insecurity, and the harder it is for you as a man to deal with her.

Men in this position have only one real option when it comes to dealing with physically elite women who must aggressively seek attention like this: limit emotional investment. Men like this guy who have a long history of medication and aren't entirely emotionally/mentally stable to begin with need to just avoid these women altogether - they cannot handle them.

These women inflict the most damage on men who have emotionally invested in them and are seeking some sort of romantic reciprocity. When he's invested and she responds by seeking the attention of other men and intentionally failing to reciprocate, it can be devastating for the male involved. He will want her, and he will love her, but she'll never allow him to have her, and that will hurt. The notion that she is instead possibly allowing other men to have her (implied by her direct efforts to seek and welcome their attention even as she pulls away from him) will simply crush his soul. I've been here - it is a very empty, dark feeling, and can bring you to one of the most hopeless emotional states you can ever hope to reach as a man.

If you're like this guy and you're already mentally/emotionally unstable to start, you're especially vulnerable and are more prone to reach even deeper pits of despair.

When you avoid investing emotionally in these women, you essentially cut this dynamic off at the knees. Her persistent attention seeking will bother you less because you've not invested anything emotionally in her, and can thus feel little envy or jealousy. The fact that she would never respond to a man's expressed love and romantic investment with reciprocation is irrelevant to you, because you're not expressing that love or oferring that romantic investment. At the end of the day, the physically elite woman who aggressively seeks attention exercises great control over the emotional, physical and psychological well-being of the men that invest emotionally in her (investment which, I must note, she depends on to some degree in order to feed her validation). She cannot control those men who do not make this investment. If you want to deal with these women and give yourself the best chance to remain sane, you avoid that emotional investment altogether. Granted, this is easier said than done as such women are very good at drawing emotional investment from the men they associate with (they need to be because, as I said earlier, they depend on that investment for validation).

It should be noted here that the "alpha/beta" dichotomy doesn't matter much here. Many people assume that the kind of woman I describe above (the physically elite woman who aggressively seeks attention from many men and never fully reciprocates the emotional investment men place in her) would fall in line with a "super-alpha" male who was dominant and "high-status" enough to "keep her in line", and would thus be more capable of maintaining a healthy, romantically reciprocal relationship with such a woman than other men.

This is true, but only to a limited extent. The physically elite, aggressive attention-seeker cannot be fully satisfied by the attention of any one man, regardless of how good he is. A highly capable man can keep a lid on this for a period of time and satiate her (and he can probably do so for a longer period of time than most other men), but never for long - eventually, she'll need to refill her validation stores with the attention of many other men, not just the one. Granted, while I maintain that the "alpha/beta" dichotomy doesn't matter as much as people think with regard to these women, more dominant/alpha/high status men do have one major advantage over other men in their dealings with these women: they are less inclined to make a serious emotional investment, meaning that they are more likely to remain sane in their dealings with these women. This is good, because as soon as such men begin investing in these women (something which necessarily happens as they enter long term relationships with them and remain in said unions for months at a time), they lose their advantage and become prone to all of the same struggles I mentioned above.

Aging is one of the few things that can actually slow down the attractive, aggressive validation seeking woman and force her to alter her behavior somewhat. When she can no longer solicit a great amount of validation from many men, she will become more prone to settle for the full investment of just one. The physically elite aggressive attention seeker is at her peak during her physical prime, a point at which she is most able to seek the greatest amount of attention (and validation) from the greatest number of men. The greater the amount of validation/attention she can gain from many men, the less likely she is to be willing to "settle" for the attentions of one man for very long. There are many physically elite young women who avoid relationships altogether in their youth for, in part, this very reason. They will often say that too many men are too willing to invest in them too quickly and that is indeed a factor (young guys are needy and they have problems finding a dude who doesn't cling too quickly to them), but equally important is the fact that they are in their prime, can get A LOT of validation from A LOT of men, and don't want to jeopardize that situation by getting attached to one guy. Time is one of the few things that can change this.

Know your enemy and know yourself, find naught in fear for 100 battles. Know yourself but not your enemy, find level of loss and victory. Know thy enemy but not yourself, wallow in defeat every time.
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