Quote: (05-20-2014 02:41 PM)Samseau Wrote:
Quote: (05-20-2014 02:38 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
Quote: (05-20-2014 01:16 PM)Samseau Wrote:
Get real Canadians, the only reason your socialism hasn't consumed itself yet is because you don't have as many dependents as the USA nor do you have a large expensive military to pay for.
Don't worry though, you're going down the path to insolvency like everyone else. Once America goes broke and Americans start flooding your boarders we'll see how well your socialism holds up.
Damn, you sound like a hater. Just rooting for Canada's fall so you can prove a point. Are you also rooting for the EU nations and Australia to fall as well?
Were the critics of the USSR haters too? Socialistic systems consume more than they produce, because they distort the price mechanisms of the free market, so they always fail in the long run due to inefficiencies.
And this critique doesn't even mention the terrible cultural consequences of socialism, creating entitlement, laziness, and a decline of innovative skills.
Does China consume more than it produces? Seems like they produce a hell of a lot to me, namely practically everything we purchase. Didn't they just surpass the U.S. as the largest economy? Is Germany failing? Is Australia failing? Their economy is on fire. They are certainly more socialistic than the U.S. Is Scandinavia's economy failing? And how are these places distorting the price mechanisms of the free-market? Communist countries control the prices of goods. You are conflating communism with socialism. Socialism means a a wide safety net, things like universal health coverage and unemployment insurance and providing for disabled and elderly. It has nothing to do with setting the price of anything in the marketplace. Germany is more socialist than the USA, are they not innovative? On a per capita basis, they beat us in new patents: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Intel...Indicators
Believe it or not, Samseau, a decade ago I had opinions identical to yours. I would go on forums full of liberals basically arguing the same things you do point for point. And I felt like I was enlightening them. I then later came to realize that many of these "socialist" countries I was demonizing were every bit as productive as this one was, with less inequality, higher standard of living, better health care, better education and unemployment rates no worse than here. Falling back on a bunch of Bill O'Reilly style talking points was no substitute for looking at reality in other places.