[Basil Ransom]

(11-03-2012 05:32 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

I don't think anyone intends to lust. Some people claim you can control one's lust but I think this is bullshit. Lust is as natural as taking a shit. The human specie would not be here if not for lust.

Thus if a man's intent is to find love and happiness with women, and he becomes a master seducer to do so, how exactly would God judge his intent? No one knows. Will God understand the predicament man is placed in because of his sexual nature? Will he forgive?

That is why another teaching of Christ is to never judge, as no one really has any idea of how God will judge.

Thus the seducer is at odds with the religion, but is it really any fault of his own?

The traditional approach is not to 'test yourself' but to remove yourself from temptation. You can't go broke gambling if you never enter the casino.

I heard someone analogize lust as the opposite of hunger. With hunger, if you eat enough, you feel satisfied. With lust, you fuck, and you want even more. Go without sex or masturbation, and your lust will eventually subside. It's a flawed analogy, but I think there's some truth to it, regarding the nature of sexual hunger.

Regardless, I think all these arguments of 'God can't exist, because if he did, he wouldn't be so cruel as to make us this way' are a little daft. I don't see why God couldn't. Maybe God is a vengeful wrathful God. Or He wanted to make it hard for us to live righteously. At the least, you don't need that to see religion as false - the prospect of fitting all the world's animals on a boat, i.e. the story of the flood, does that for you.

I find it hilarious that us players, (Me, Samseau, MikeCF, Laser, et al) view religion with more integrity than the vast majority of Christians or Jews. Emotional distance lets you be honest.