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(06-29-2018 02:28 PM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  

Does anyone have experience with Mormons in Salt Lake City? Would love to hear some thoughts as I've had good reception from Mormon women. Very mild mannered usually and chilled out.

Most of my time has been spent in Phils. Not good for wife hunting imo but good for fun.

This would be by far the top thing I'd consider in terms of American prospects. I would like to find out myself. I have no first hand knowledge on this subject, I've just heard they're usually tight knit, live in the mountains, and don't really drink (at least in front of the family). Plus the ones really into it do morning bible readings apparently. But, I've wanted to see the western US anyway, so this may be a project of mine in the upcoming years if I could find the hidden gem and be able to keep my family in my life (they'd never move out of America and I'm close with them).

(06-29-2018 01:53 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(06-28-2018 10:52 PM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  

Good family girls will not leave their country. You will need to live in theirs.

^ THIS.

That is the sacrifice men these days will have to make if they want to marry a good girl and start a family with them. I can understand some men not wanting to make that sacrifice, though.

Agreed. Good women will not want to leave their country, family, and everything they know behind. Or at least they'd be a lot less eager to. I do think we as men are going to have to start thinking like our ancestors in terms of moving to countries to find a better life. If we want this bad enough, we have to make it happen and put our potential wife in the best possible scenario for success (her own culture with positive traditionalism reinforcement). Our ancestors went from a world empire in England to go on a boat into the 1600's to America, a land that nobody really knew much about. They turned it into an empire of their own. Our ancestors came off of boats from Ireland and Italy with maybe a couple of bucks in their pocket. They're now multi-generational in America.

The point I'm getting at is that great men have made great personal sacrifices in the past to leave everything they know for a better life for them and their family. We need to do this too if we want a wife without putting ourselves in the oven. Hell, maybe some of you don't and that's fine too. I'm not necessarily ready for a wife now, but as a younger guy, I get the feeling I'm going to want to have good company around in my later years when I inevitably want to slow down. I do believe this is good for society at the right time with the right partner, the West just flipped the whole thing upside down.

The girl I've been most serious outside of America with didn't seem overly interested in coming to America. I did like her and spent a bit of time with her, but I broke it off because I knew I couldn't get back to her part of the world anytime soon and I thought I was too young to give her what she wanted (marriage and children). But, we were both young, early 20's, and from what she was telling me, her priority was settling down with a good stable guy, not really looking for a passport or ever asking me for money. I think she would've been happy with just me moving to her country.

For the future, I'm leaning more and more towards foreign girls as potential girlfriends/wives. The dilemna I really have is that I know one day I'm going to have to make a choice between building my own future with a potential life and family abroad, or keeping the family I already have in America. I'm not optimistic I could do both, so when that day comes, it'll be one of the most difficult decisions I will have to make in my life mainly because I grew up pretty close to my family and no one really moves away...