So to bump this one...
I actually think the older show "Venture Brothers" is better in a lot of ways.
Bad thing first: the show gets up its own ass quite a bit with the old Hannah Barbara cartoon world tropes. Some of the weirdness is hilarious (like Dr. Girlfriend's voice) and other parts are just stupid. I suspect a lot of the humor is kind of hit or miss with what people will find funny.
That said the writers of that show understand male social hierarchies much better. Rusty and The Monarch are both gamma personalities but express it in very different ways: Rusty tends to try to tear down the achievements of everyone else he comes into contact with who actually is successful, and the Monarch with delusions of grandeur and pomposity.
To quote AB
Both of those behaviors are on full display with Rusty and feature prominently into his personality. He very frequently attempts to prove that the actual Alphas he encounters are wrong and attempts to deliberately provoke in order to disrupt occasions where other people have the social spotlight.
There's an actual Alpha male in Brock Samson, who controls the frame of almost every situation he's in.
It's also got a more acute awareness of female behavior. There's multiple parts of the first two seasons where Dr. Girlfriend loses interest the moment the dude she's with begins exhibiting weakness and losing frame, and there's a few scenes where you can see attempts to impress her rapidly turning her off.
I suspect part of that is that the show is a product of a slightly older pop-culture era: it's from circa 2008 and onwards where SJW-ism hadn't really began to take hold in that part of the culture and a lot of what was found there thrived on being offensive and shocking.
I actually think the older show "Venture Brothers" is better in a lot of ways.
Bad thing first: the show gets up its own ass quite a bit with the old Hannah Barbara cartoon world tropes. Some of the weirdness is hilarious (like Dr. Girlfriend's voice) and other parts are just stupid. I suspect a lot of the humor is kind of hit or miss with what people will find funny.
That said the writers of that show understand male social hierarchies much better. Rusty and The Monarch are both gamma personalities but express it in very different ways: Rusty tends to try to tear down the achievements of everyone else he comes into contact with who actually is successful, and the Monarch with delusions of grandeur and pomposity.
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b) The social circle doesn't cares when the Alpha is wrong, including the Alpha at the centre of it. It's the Gamma who obsesses over proving that the Alpha is wrong, because he wishes he was the centre, not understanding that no-one cares.
c) Sigmas and Gammas deliberately-provoke in conversation, Alphas carelessly-provoke in conversation, until there's a direct challenge. Sigma provocation is largely for their own amusement, or to privately-amuse a smaller group within the social circle who is in on the joke. Gamma provocation is always a failing attempt to steal control of the social circle from those who actually control it. Alpha provocation is whatever the alpha genuinely thinks.
Both of those behaviors are on full display with Rusty and feature prominently into his personality. He very frequently attempts to prove that the actual Alphas he encounters are wrong and attempts to deliberately provoke in order to disrupt occasions where other people have the social spotlight.
There's an actual Alpha male in Brock Samson, who controls the frame of almost every situation he's in.
It's also got a more acute awareness of female behavior. There's multiple parts of the first two seasons where Dr. Girlfriend loses interest the moment the dude she's with begins exhibiting weakness and losing frame, and there's a few scenes where you can see attempts to impress her rapidly turning her off.
I suspect part of that is that the show is a product of a slightly older pop-culture era: it's from circa 2008 and onwards where SJW-ism hadn't really began to take hold in that part of the culture and a lot of what was found there thrived on being offensive and shocking.