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(04-02-2018 05:44 PM)Black Caesar Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 04:34 PM)corsega Wrote:  

There's a lot missing from this story. Either she's ugly or you're attractive, or both,

I'm pretty average looking and she looks good and has a Look.

I do have Vibe and Presence but that is because I am Ice Cold.

However, this was nothing special.

(04-02-2018 04:34 PM)corsega Wrote:  

or you happened to screen well for an extremely horny girl that was into your archetype.

She was looking Bored mostly.

Every girl is in to my Archetype - fly, mysterious, assertive, world-traveled player

(04-02-2018 04:34 PM)corsega Wrote:  

Girls giving their number out in front their social circle is a moonshot event.

Except that it is not.

I run that same play ALL the time in the Bay with results.

Here's what usually happens:

Girl is receptive and gives up the digits. Maybe a friend of hers answers for her and then I play the group and can often walk away with the number still by being charming and talking up how I want to take her friend out.

But if you dip in with something simple to get her attention, and work the social frame of "oh I just saw you and don't want to interrupt what you are doing but go out with me some time" then there's not much reason for her to just blow you out.

Sometimes the girl is flattered but begs off with some social excuse and then I either bounce or keep pushing depending on the situation.

The other thing is that this wasn't even her social circle really and she was bored with them. Easy in and something I recognized just from looking around. Even if she had been the center of the social circle I would have probably still made a move though because she was fly.

(04-02-2018 04:34 PM)corsega Wrote:  

P.S. I've gone out every weekend for the last month in SF. Temple, Audio, Polk St., Marina. Stayed out until last call most of these nights. Did not once see a guy "pull" a girl outside of his circle.

Maybe I was the only one doing this in the Bay...

On a serious note though you probably haven't been paying attention. Plenty of one night things going down on Polk and in the Mission. Post outside of Maye's or Beauty Bar on a Saturday night and watch.

I stay away from the Marina because the white cougars there like me too much.

Though this specific example was not a pull from the spot and not a weekend or in a party district. Just low key lounge with a good vibe.

I got her digits and set up a day two and then after some one on one face time it was a wrap.

My point is that the barrier for entry is Basic Game and being able to talk to a girl In Real Life. Crazy stuff.

I can't comment on your attractiveness because there are no photos allowed here. Would have to wait until we Game in real life in SF sometime. I can only say that my experience in the community is that most attractive guys think they are average looking, simply because they have limited concept of the difference that facial attractiveness makes in seduction (for example, attractiveness makes things exponentially, not linearly easier).

I can only say that I've not heard of your reality matching up with anything I've seen here.

I've been outside Mayes on two Saturdays during closing. I've been keeping close watch, because I've been studying the social dynamics of nightgame as I go out, seeing as how I'm so new to this. Did not see a single pull.

The barrier to entry is more than Basic Game. I have Intermediate Game. I've fucked over 50 girls from mostly online and daygame in the past two years. I'm jacked and have zero approach anxiety, and guys I've met out the past few weekends said I have natural game.

So clearly I'm doing something wrong, or our realities do not match. As you are literally the only person in the SF Game community (I'm also counting guys I wing with, RSD guys, etc.) who doesn't think it's insanely hard here, I'm betting on the latter.