[quote] (02-16-2018 08:21 AM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:
@Catalyst - you're on the right track in your thinking at least, though it is much, much easier said than done. Even Krauser who has dedicated his life to day game for nearly a decade now and is still going... he says that although if you're going to do day game you've got to make a massive effort etc., so taking it seriously is important, but at the same time fundamentally day game is just one other game within the game of life, none of it has any meaning other than what you ascribe to it. So don't take it too seriously. When I'm not day gaming, this line of thought although somewhat nihilist does actually help because success or failure it doesn't really matter in the end. Try your best and if for whatever reasons you fail despite your best efforts, that's the way it's gonna be.[/quote]
I concur. It's game. A mating game but still a game like chess. Mating game's search space is vastly more complex than that of chess but similarly there is a small set of close-to-optimal moves, certain set of tactics and strategies and clear objective. All we do is to design an ever-so-slightly less imperfect algorithm.
[quote] (02-16-2018 08:21 AM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:
I guess I need to continue to work on accepting the most successful "art" in modern western culture is now basically 50 Shades, Justin Bieber and Ariana Grande showing 75% of her ass hole in half her videos, even down to the creases from the event horizon to the actual singularity.[/quote]
Yes, today's pop culture is in a gutter. Regardless of how many views Miss Grande (what a surname!) accumulates on YT, she can polish J.S.Bach, Bethoveen and Rachmaninov's shoes.
[quote] (02-16-2018 08:21 AM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:
@Pointer - the guy's lines are cheesy and all, but his vibe is good. While it is always a bit "forced" to do the whole complimenting the girl on her style or a piece of clothing and teasing her, because ultimately we just want to bang her, the sets seem a lot more smooth energy wise than Krauser, who even in "daygame mediocrity" I feel is putting a hell of a lot of work in to appear "cool". Sometimes day game is deceptive; the best sets are often apparently the most simple. If you've got a good vibe/energy then saying or doing "shit" doesn't matter anywhere near as much.[/quote]
Guys, you clearly missed the whole point as some commentators on YT. Actually, Richard corrects it. He's cheesy lines were purposefully cheesy due to upcoming V-day. I've seen all his videos and he never runs "I'm so fucking desperate guy I need to tell you I'm a loser game". This Valentines Day pickup video shows that despite cheesy as hell lines, with the right vibe, confidence, on point body language, you can get the numbers. And he performed admirably. 2/6 is a good call.
In this way I agree, experience teaches that, as SH mentioned "good vibe/energy then saying or doing "shit"" can matter much more. Krauser in DGI writes, similarly, that your biggest work is to prepare yourself correctly in a pre-open stage. Then, n principle, the set is won or lost in the 5-10 seconds from the open.
[quote] (02-16-2018 08:21 AM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:
I agree however that he shouldn't be reinforcing the continued use of the word "creepy", men trying their best at cold approach or just men existing in general are often called "creepy" in the US and UK to shame them into submission. It's sad.[/quote]
I think that creepy is a pejorative equivalent to slut.
I remember once in my life a girl said that to me. It was in Glasgow, saw this girl walking downtown wearing bright yellow top, bright red pants. She stood out from the crowd like a dinosaur in a swimming pool. Ass was fine, so I approached as she walked, didn't come up from the front, she blurted out "I don't want to talk to you", I asked "Why?", after which she gave me an intellectually deep answer "because you're a creep", delivered with a strong weegie accent.
[quote] (02-16-2018 08:21 AM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:
The locals do indeed suck in attitude and the effort they put in to looking good, but I don't think the one with the weird trousers wasn't good looking. She just wasn't dressed well at all. The spanish girl I think was perhaps naive in her dress sense but her face is very pretty and she is probably hiding a nice body underneath all that. If anything that's a "good value" approach, I would take that all day long. I would take her as more than a quick bang, unless close up there is something wrong with her or her body is somehow awful underneath.
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The hobo/homeless style (I don't know what actually it's called, that's what I call it) became mainstream in the UK in the last year or two. Girls (especially the young British ones) being conformist wear it all around campuses - oversized, dirty jackets, ill fitting trousers and necessarily ultra-dirty snickers (I wonder if bras and panties need to be dirty too, then?). Not sure why it is so but I think at least some of them want to give a "statement" to the society that "you won't judge me by my looks". I never approach these girls, they don't deserve my attention. One thing, I feel no allurement towards British girls' countenances, second from experience, I know that daygame works best on feminine girls, so why make a mountain higher to climbed than need be?
[quote='Skank_Hunt' pid='1738068' dateline='1518787308']
London is soul crushing because of the ridiculously high cost of living, grey and depressing urban sprawl, cold and impolite locals, snobbery amongst highly paid (but ~75% effectively taxed - see Krauser's memoirs) finance professionals, and of course the terrible quality of the local women in looks and personality. Advantages are as Merengues listed. If you can find a cheap way to live in London you pick off those lonely tourists which will be your bread and butter.[/quote]
I'm going to London with my wing soon, these are words of encouragement! Been to London quite a few times and found it an interesting city but never daygamed.
[quote] (02-16-2018 08:21 AM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:
Overall I fucking hate London though, the vibe of the place is just depressing in so many ways. When in the UK, I avoid it as much as I possibly can. There are a lot more airports in the UK that I purposely choose over anything near there. Heathrow being the exception as it does long haul and is easy to just GTFO direct from the coach station to other places in the UK. Pre-book national express online and you get pretty cheap transport by UK standards. Book that same coach ticket in the airport and it's like 4x the price, no shit. The London premium.[/quote]
Oh man, sounds like you really had bad time in there.
@Catalyst - you're on the right track in your thinking at least, though it is much, much easier said than done. Even Krauser who has dedicated his life to day game for nearly a decade now and is still going... he says that although if you're going to do day game you've got to make a massive effort etc., so taking it seriously is important, but at the same time fundamentally day game is just one other game within the game of life, none of it has any meaning other than what you ascribe to it. So don't take it too seriously. When I'm not day gaming, this line of thought although somewhat nihilist does actually help because success or failure it doesn't really matter in the end. Try your best and if for whatever reasons you fail despite your best efforts, that's the way it's gonna be.[/quote]
I concur. It's game. A mating game but still a game like chess. Mating game's search space is vastly more complex than that of chess but similarly there is a small set of close-to-optimal moves, certain set of tactics and strategies and clear objective. All we do is to design an ever-so-slightly less imperfect algorithm.
[quote] (02-16-2018 08:21 AM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:
I guess I need to continue to work on accepting the most successful "art" in modern western culture is now basically 50 Shades, Justin Bieber and Ariana Grande showing 75% of her ass hole in half her videos, even down to the creases from the event horizon to the actual singularity.[/quote]
Yes, today's pop culture is in a gutter. Regardless of how many views Miss Grande (what a surname!) accumulates on YT, she can polish J.S.Bach, Bethoveen and Rachmaninov's shoes.
[quote] (02-16-2018 08:21 AM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:
@Pointer - the guy's lines are cheesy and all, but his vibe is good. While it is always a bit "forced" to do the whole complimenting the girl on her style or a piece of clothing and teasing her, because ultimately we just want to bang her, the sets seem a lot more smooth energy wise than Krauser, who even in "daygame mediocrity" I feel is putting a hell of a lot of work in to appear "cool". Sometimes day game is deceptive; the best sets are often apparently the most simple. If you've got a good vibe/energy then saying or doing "shit" doesn't matter anywhere near as much.[/quote]
Guys, you clearly missed the whole point as some commentators on YT. Actually, Richard corrects it. He's cheesy lines were purposefully cheesy due to upcoming V-day. I've seen all his videos and he never runs "I'm so fucking desperate guy I need to tell you I'm a loser game". This Valentines Day pickup video shows that despite cheesy as hell lines, with the right vibe, confidence, on point body language, you can get the numbers. And he performed admirably. 2/6 is a good call.
In this way I agree, experience teaches that, as SH mentioned "good vibe/energy then saying or doing "shit"" can matter much more. Krauser in DGI writes, similarly, that your biggest work is to prepare yourself correctly in a pre-open stage. Then, n principle, the set is won or lost in the 5-10 seconds from the open.
[quote] (02-16-2018 08:21 AM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:
I agree however that he shouldn't be reinforcing the continued use of the word "creepy", men trying their best at cold approach or just men existing in general are often called "creepy" in the US and UK to shame them into submission. It's sad.[/quote]
I think that creepy is a pejorative equivalent to slut.
I remember once in my life a girl said that to me. It was in Glasgow, saw this girl walking downtown wearing bright yellow top, bright red pants. She stood out from the crowd like a dinosaur in a swimming pool. Ass was fine, so I approached as she walked, didn't come up from the front, she blurted out "I don't want to talk to you", I asked "Why?", after which she gave me an intellectually deep answer "because you're a creep", delivered with a strong weegie accent.
[quote] (02-16-2018 08:21 AM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:
The locals do indeed suck in attitude and the effort they put in to looking good, but I don't think the one with the weird trousers wasn't good looking. She just wasn't dressed well at all. The spanish girl I think was perhaps naive in her dress sense but her face is very pretty and she is probably hiding a nice body underneath all that. If anything that's a "good value" approach, I would take that all day long. I would take her as more than a quick bang, unless close up there is something wrong with her or her body is somehow awful underneath.
[quote/]
The hobo/homeless style (I don't know what actually it's called, that's what I call it) became mainstream in the UK in the last year or two. Girls (especially the young British ones) being conformist wear it all around campuses - oversized, dirty jackets, ill fitting trousers and necessarily ultra-dirty snickers (I wonder if bras and panties need to be dirty too, then?). Not sure why it is so but I think at least some of them want to give a "statement" to the society that "you won't judge me by my looks". I never approach these girls, they don't deserve my attention. One thing, I feel no allurement towards British girls' countenances, second from experience, I know that daygame works best on feminine girls, so why make a mountain higher to climbed than need be?
[quote='Skank_Hunt' pid='1738068' dateline='1518787308']
London is soul crushing because of the ridiculously high cost of living, grey and depressing urban sprawl, cold and impolite locals, snobbery amongst highly paid (but ~75% effectively taxed - see Krauser's memoirs) finance professionals, and of course the terrible quality of the local women in looks and personality. Advantages are as Merengues listed. If you can find a cheap way to live in London you pick off those lonely tourists which will be your bread and butter.[/quote]
I'm going to London with my wing soon, these are words of encouragement! Been to London quite a few times and found it an interesting city but never daygamed.
[quote] (02-16-2018 08:21 AM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:
Overall I fucking hate London though, the vibe of the place is just depressing in so many ways. When in the UK, I avoid it as much as I possibly can. There are a lot more airports in the UK that I purposely choose over anything near there. Heathrow being the exception as it does long haul and is easy to just GTFO direct from the coach station to other places in the UK. Pre-book national express online and you get pretty cheap transport by UK standards. Book that same coach ticket in the airport and it's like 4x the price, no shit. The London premium.[/quote]
Oh man, sounds like you really had bad time in there.
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