Quote: (11-30-2017 05:38 PM)Going strong Wrote:
As I predicted here, thread-65066...pid1689059 , the gangsta-looking, ex-K9 handler Nordhal, has still not revealed where he hid the poor kidnapped (and probably starved by now, God have mercy on her soul) girl, and had a major judicial win today, as investigators had forgotten to read him his rights (about lack of videotaping): Nordhal's partial and de facto confession has therefore been thrown out, voided, on a technical basis. Also, he has been granted not one, but three lawyers, to assist him in the investigating judge's office!
So, monsters and terrorists not only never confess or reveal details about their massive crimes, but they actually score wins in courts, in our Western countries! Madness.
http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/...uspect.php
"le suspect avait obtenu l'annulation de ses premières déclarations en garde à vue le 31 août en raison d'une erreur de procédure, les déclarations de l'ex-militaire de 34 ans n'avaient pas été filmées, alors que le Code pénal l'exige pour une affaire criminelle."
That's a rare case where torture is viable in my book. He likely killed her already or she was dead, but in that case I would allow torture and he would talk, so that the torture stops. Also the information is quickly verifiable - not like with terrorists, POWs etc.
Though - to be fair - rule of law in our system is designed to allow the occasional monster being treated more leniently, so that the legion of innocents don't get tortured and killed. Because that was the norm in the medieval/aristocratic legal systems around the world up until very recently. The ones in power could simply take anyone off the street and throw them into prison, then torture them slowly. We have to remember that this is a slippery slope and doing this would require an incredibly ethical system. We are nowhere there, so in this case it is better for the guy to not be tortured. He should have the same rights as the innocent bloke down the street who gets wrongfully accused.