I am going to try to dive into this thread a bit, I agree that Toronto is not one of the best cities in North America, and not even the best city in Canada (Montreal takes the cake) but posts like these show how ridiculous biased some posters are against the city. Unfortunately misterstir is banned so he wont be able to counter, but oh well.
I posted already that this was ridiculous, but his follow up posts made it laughable
Comparing one of the most liberal countries in the world, which also has some of the hottest white chicks?
First of all you can't compare the country of Sweden to the City of Toronto, secondly you could argue that "Sweden" is better than almost every city in N.A and the UK.
Lets go back to the original quote "An 8 in Toronto is like a 3-4 in most of Europe". Other than Russia which obviously has a massive population, although you could argue some of it is Asian, the 4 biggest countries in Europe are France, UK, Italy and Germany (which you didn't mention but I am assuming fits into your criteria for "ugly" girls) so "most" of Europe is made up of girls that you are not attracted to.
You then say that Czech, Ukraine, Russian, Sweden and Norway. Russia/Ukraine has a noticeable minority in Toronto, probably not as large as some cities, but certainly more than most. The other three countries are not in the top ten populations in Europe, obviously their numbers will be smaller in any city in N.A.
I don't know where you are hanging out to say that every Brazilian you have met is infected. That sounds like a generalization at best and most likely just a stereotype.
Everyone in this forum knows that the western world has an obesity problem. The US is considerably worse than Canada, the UK is pretty bad and from reports on this forum, the problem is creeping east. You can't criticize Toronto for having fat chicks any more than you bash any other Westernized city.
So now half of the European population here is easy to get, but you are just not attracted to them? That is not a fair representation to everyone else who may have different tastes. If a city does not have the type of girls you are interested in, it is your own fault for being there... don't blame the city.
That's the end of my rant
I agree with most of what you said Indefatigable, except for this. I can't think of a city in N.A where an average guy could have an easy time with hot girls, except for maybe Vegas and the smaller college towns where "Iceland"* game works.
Like I said Toronto is certainly not the greatest city, and this post didn't delve into the bitch shields of Toronto girls and whether or not they are "colder" than other girls. I just wanted to show how biased some people are when comparing cities
*Iceland game= Find the drunkest girl and steer her towards your house.
Quote: (02-13-2012 01:02 PM)misterstir Wrote:
an 8 in Toronto is like a 3-4 in most of europe.
I posted already that this was ridiculous, but his follow up posts made it laughable
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Really, ever been to Sweden, it will change your opinion very quickly.
Comparing one of the most liberal countries in the world, which also has some of the hottest white chicks?
First of all you can't compare the country of Sweden to the City of Toronto, secondly you could argue that "Sweden" is better than almost every city in N.A and the UK.
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Yes but the countries they come from are ones I'm not attracted to or ones most guys really think are hot like Italians or English or French. Sure there is a hot italian girl every now and then but for the most part they are nothing special and you have to look through maybe 50-100 ugly ones before you find one hot one or 3-5 do-able ones. In every club I go in T.dot its like 1 hot girl at best in each club, in places I been to in europe it like maybe 6.
The Brazilian girls I've met in toronto where all infected and nothing to brag home about.
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-So if you're not into British/Irish chicks, or French and Italian chicks then it makes perfect sense you do not find Toronto girls attractive. And its true because I don't in general find any of these girls attractive sexually except the "really hot ones" because most of them are just very blah and average looking to me, nothing special. Now if the top ethnic groups were more representative other than just West Europe, then you'd have a point. The top european countries like czech, ukraine, russia, sweden/norway, etc are small minorities in toronto, the largest of that group is the russian and ukranians but much of central/ south/east europe and even south west and north europe is entirely unrepresented in this city.
I don't see threads lining up for bang Italy, bang Britain, Bang Ireland, or Bang France. and most of the France threads are guys focused on getting easy westernized arabic or north african girls, which only proves my point. The bang britain threads, the few that exist focus on the fact that British girls are known to be EASY, not really hot.
Lets go back to the original quote "An 8 in Toronto is like a 3-4 in most of Europe". Other than Russia which obviously has a massive population, although you could argue some of it is Asian, the 4 biggest countries in Europe are France, UK, Italy and Germany (which you didn't mention but I am assuming fits into your criteria for "ugly" girls) so "most" of Europe is made up of girls that you are not attracted to.
You then say that Czech, Ukraine, Russian, Sweden and Norway. Russia/Ukraine has a noticeable minority in Toronto, probably not as large as some cities, but certainly more than most. The other three countries are not in the top ten populations in Europe, obviously their numbers will be smaller in any city in N.A.
I don't know where you are hanging out to say that every Brazilian you have met is infected. That sounds like a generalization at best and most likely just a stereotype.
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The other logical reason additionally is that those girls in Europe know when to put down the cake. I recall In Norway seeing only 1 truly fat girl under 40 and she was german-american immigrant. So it could just be the white/european canadian girls do not take good care of themselves compared to their european counterparts who know when to put the fork down and workout.
Everyone in this forum knows that the western world has an obesity problem. The US is considerably worse than Canada, the UK is pretty bad and from reports on this forum, the problem is creeping east. You can't criticize Toronto for having fat chicks any more than you bash any other Westernized city.
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"however I strongly prefer young white girls"
Never mind. If thats the demographic (Irish, Italians, Brits, French, Greek, Portuguese) you're going for you don't need nothing special to get them, with this group you can just be very straightforward and it requires little game. There girls are nothing to brag about in terms of looks.
So now half of the European population here is easy to get, but you are just not attracted to them? That is not a fair representation to everyone else who may have different tastes. If a city does not have the type of girls you are interested in, it is your own fault for being there... don't blame the city.
That's the end of my rant
Quote: (02-14-2012 09:50 PM)Indefatigable Wrote:
And basically you have to judge a city based on how well it is for a dude with mediocre looks, medium game, etc. not very good looking dudes with superb game, etc. And even for these dudes, it's going to be harder here than other places.
I agree with most of what you said Indefatigable, except for this. I can't think of a city in N.A where an average guy could have an easy time with hot girls, except for maybe Vegas and the smaller college towns where "Iceland"* game works.
Like I said Toronto is certainly not the greatest city, and this post didn't delve into the bitch shields of Toronto girls and whether or not they are "colder" than other girls. I just wanted to show how biased some people are when comparing cities
*Iceland game= Find the drunkest girl and steer her towards your house.