Quote: (06-13-2017 06:10 AM)Lunostrelki Wrote:
girls require strong frame and paternal discipline to raise well (i.e. to not spoil her).
It's not that simple. It has to be in some Goldilocks zone. A big reason one of my exes was so F'd up wasn't that she didn't have enough discipline but that her dad beat her with a belt. Then after a long marriage with a failed musician she wound up in an affair with a much older guy in Australia. The appeal of that guy was that he felt alpha and yet never ever confronted her on her flaws and vices (of which there were many). So her way of compensating for the over-discipline was to find a father-figure to spoil her.