[Rhyme or Reason]

(04-20-2017 12:56 AM)Transsimian Wrote:  

I've been making good progress, I think? I want to share it with you.
I was at a coffee shop the other day, and the girl next to me is reading Jacques Ranciere. He's a philosopher who's affiliated with other philosophers I like, but I don't know enough about him that I would be able to uphold a decent conversation about him. And she is busy. I mean, really busy. She is underlining and highlighting the bejeezus out of this book. Her eyes are moving line to line like she was prepared for a snake to jump out at her. Homegirl is on a mission. No doubt she's very smart, and very committed to learning about Ranciere has to say. She's most likely in college or grad school I imagine.

So what do I do? What am I proud of?

I decide not to talk to her. Why? Because she's busy. That was a really hard thing for me to do, because I have a long history of attempting to get a girl's attention based on mutual interests, and hoping that it somehow turns into an opportunity for sex or dating. I've been doing this uncomfortable charade since middle school, where I was lonely and desperate to be seen with people that I grasped at straws in conversations with people, and the result were predictable. The conversations were never good, and they never wanted me around because I wasn't even relevant to what they wanted or needed in life. Homegirl was busy analyzing the crap out of this thinker. I figured she wouldn't want a lukewarm conversation about other thinkers, or have a lukewarm conversation about how she looked like she was having fun analyzing the crap out of this thinker. Just let her be.

I don't know, did I do good?


Found on Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/comment...i_want_to/

Highlighting mine.

Here's some responses from people in that thread, mostly from women:

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Woman here - I simply like that you respected her enough to think about what her feelings would be. Empathy is really attractive

Translation: Empathy is attractive....in men I already find attractive. Which isn't you.

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Sounds like you did the right thing. And if you see this girl in the coffee shop again, maybe in line, you can talk to her and mention how you saw her reading before... could be the best of both worlds!

Lol.

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You did good. If you'd struck up a conversation she'd have been distracted the whole time she was studying.
No one, male or female, wants to be interrupted when they're in the zone.

Translation: Since you're posting this and obviously an awkward dork, you totally did the right thing by staying in your incel lane and not disturbing her which is tantamount to sexual harassment. Also rape.

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fistbump you did good. Somebody that focussed doesnt need interruptions from anybody, regardless of gender dynamics. Also, A+ introspection sir!

Translation: Good job on knowing your limitations! In your case, limiting yourself to only observing an attractive female and keeping your distance! Good boy!

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Wanna chime in that you did the right thing, for the right reasons (i would had ripped you to shreds in her place)

I have no doubt this woman leads a happy and fulfilling life, is under 120 lbs, and totally doesn't have tattoos / piercings and is sporting her natural hair color.

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lol, honestly I think so. One, it's a big maturation of a social model that makes sure to put women's respect at the top.
Two, it eventually gets rid of a lot of noise in your head. Some day it'll be a similar situation but there will be a damn good reason to talk to her and you'll actually recognize that and understand it and react emotionally to the situation and context.
Three, the conversation may have been very good, and that's okay. Reclaiming the power to pass up chances is important. It's about doing the right thing, not hypothetical outcomes.

Translation: "Yeah , you know that pesky noise in your head, nagging you for those little things like self respect, ambition, and a desire to express your masculinity and virility? It's so much better when you betas just learn to give up hope! and accept you're pathetic role in this world! Teehee"

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You did good. If only others were like you

Translation: If only all betas knew their place.

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You did. To me, the key thing is that you consciously decided what the best course of action would be, and you took it. That's some great self-awareness.

Translation: stay aware to the fact you'll always be a pathetic loser. It really makes things easier on us girls!

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talks about how he should platonically tell her he knows a lot about what shes reading

The important part for you is to walk away with no expectations. You are literally, 100% just being friendly and helpful. That's it. Nothing else.

Then some guy pops in to basically say he should talk to her and is met with this reaction:

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Or... you could learn from all the women here agreeing with OP that he did the right thing.
Honestly, the way you described your intrusion, I'd be livid.
Maybe you don't understand how often this happens. Guys I know, assume that I need their help with my work. I have more experience with my studies, then they do. Most of these blokes are 'self taught'. They once read an abridged version and therefore their grasp is much better than mine. A full time student with access to actual experts and teachers.
It boils my blood. I think your behaviour is intrusive, demeaning and patronising. And I'm trying to tell you something. Are you listening?

As if this needs more translating from hamstereese to english...


Edit: I forgot about this exchange. So a guy comments saying he should have 'handed her a note' rather than verbally talk to her. So someone with their head screwed on halfway right replied saying "wouldn't that be even more awkward"? And the female commenter replied with:

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Depends on the woman but I'd personally prefer it to him talking to me. He can leave his number and I cam easily just chunk it if I want.

Lol! Women would prefer ANYTHING other than have a beta male approach them.

Also, the very nature of that thread and the OP's position of "I'm getting better...i'm learning to accept that I'm pathetic and don't deserve shit in life! Please praise me!" is the very definition of the Cuck Mindset. That you are inadequate, and should be recognized as such, and offered a little rabbit pellet for knowing your pathetic place as a pathetic excuse for a male.