Re: Surreyman
I'm going to take an educated guess that European Muslims tend to be the poorest, least educated people in their societies and often come to the EU illegally because they have very little hope at home. This is similar to a lot of undocumented Latin American immigrants in the United States. It appears to me that Muslim Immigrants to Europe tend to be low-class and scraping by with all kinds of oddball jobs and often living on the edge of the law. In my experience, Muslim immigrants to the States tend to be hardworking, law abiding and integrated into society at large. The quote below from the US embassy confirms that Muslim immigrants to the states have solid education and work in professional jobs.
I think that the way to do immigration is to be selective about who gets in (based on education, skills etc., not country of origin) and you don't let too many people in at once. If done right, even immigrants from cultures vastly different than your own can integrate into your society and even enhance it. The problems happen when a massive flood of immigrants come in with no controls (e.g. Mexicans to the U.S. in the 1990s-2000s and Muslims to Europe now).
"The 2007 Pew survey found that Muslim Americans generally mirror the U.S. public in education and income levels, with immigrant Muslims slightly more affluent and better educated than native-born Muslims. Twenty-four percent of all Muslims and 29 percent of immigrant Muslims have college degrees, compared to 25 percent for the U.S. general population. Forty-one percent of all Muslim Americans and 45 percent of immigrant Muslims report annual household income levels of $50,000 or higher. This compares to the national average of 44 percent. Immigrant Muslims are well represented among higher-income earners, with 19 percent claiming annual household incomes of $100,000 or higher (compared to 16 percent for the Muslim population as a whole and 17 percent for the U.S. average). This is likely due to the strong concentration of Muslims in professional, managerial, and technical fields, especially in information technology, education, medicine, law, and the corporate world. There is some evidence of a decline in the wages of Muslim and Arab men since 2001, although more recent data suggest the trend might be reversing."
https://iraq.usembassy.gov/resources/inf...tical.html
I'm going to take an educated guess that European Muslims tend to be the poorest, least educated people in their societies and often come to the EU illegally because they have very little hope at home. This is similar to a lot of undocumented Latin American immigrants in the United States. It appears to me that Muslim Immigrants to Europe tend to be low-class and scraping by with all kinds of oddball jobs and often living on the edge of the law. In my experience, Muslim immigrants to the States tend to be hardworking, law abiding and integrated into society at large. The quote below from the US embassy confirms that Muslim immigrants to the states have solid education and work in professional jobs.
I think that the way to do immigration is to be selective about who gets in (based on education, skills etc., not country of origin) and you don't let too many people in at once. If done right, even immigrants from cultures vastly different than your own can integrate into your society and even enhance it. The problems happen when a massive flood of immigrants come in with no controls (e.g. Mexicans to the U.S. in the 1990s-2000s and Muslims to Europe now).
"The 2007 Pew survey found that Muslim Americans generally mirror the U.S. public in education and income levels, with immigrant Muslims slightly more affluent and better educated than native-born Muslims. Twenty-four percent of all Muslims and 29 percent of immigrant Muslims have college degrees, compared to 25 percent for the U.S. general population. Forty-one percent of all Muslim Americans and 45 percent of immigrant Muslims report annual household income levels of $50,000 or higher. This compares to the national average of 44 percent. Immigrant Muslims are well represented among higher-income earners, with 19 percent claiming annual household incomes of $100,000 or higher (compared to 16 percent for the Muslim population as a whole and 17 percent for the U.S. average). This is likely due to the strong concentration of Muslims in professional, managerial, and technical fields, especially in information technology, education, medicine, law, and the corporate world. There is some evidence of a decline in the wages of Muslim and Arab men since 2001, although more recent data suggest the trend might be reversing."
https://iraq.usembassy.gov/resources/inf...tical.html