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(11-08-2011 03:19 PM)Lika Wrote:  

Where the whites settled in South Africa, blacks were not there (they were further North).

There was no living Bantu culture there.

There were Bantus in the Cape during the early 17th century. In fact, early Portuguese sailors are said to have spotted them on their rounding of the Cape during the 15th century, though the KhoiSan were certainly predominant.

Not that this would matter much, anyway. Even if you were to make the claim that the presence of trace Bantu populations in the modern day Western Cape is not enough to claim nativity/early residence, there is not much doubting their precedence in every other province in South Africa (everything North and East-Xhosa were well established in the Eastern Cape prior to Trekboer arrival, Hlubi were all over Natal and parts of the Northwest Cape, Tswanas all over the Free State and other Nguni had long established themselves everywhere else) relative to Whites.

You still will not be able to justify the imposition of apartheid and the right to greater white authority over the land (save for the Western Cape, and even that is tenuous) by trying to claim residential precedence. Whites only come close to having that in one modern day province.

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You are so much worried about the apartheid "black culture" genocide (in SA wtf?) but not at all about the real one taking place right now...

As long as people like you continue to justify (for whatever reason), defend, promote, and/or simply fail to properly acknowledge the historical inequities at the root of the current conflict and, in doing so, deny the humanity of those who dealt with said inequities, its continuance will be ensured, no matter how much you or myself try to talk about it.

You must respect the humanity of others before they respect yours. The only chance current victims will have to end this current cycle of violence is to make clear to the perpetrators their understanding of this historical inequity and their respect for their humanity, which was lacking for most of the 20th century. Then, and only then will there be a chance for peaceful coexistence and an eventual end to things like Black Economic Empowerment (BEE), resulting in a complete breaking of the "cycle".

One more time: until the above actions are accomplished, there will be no hope of ending current tensions, no matter how much we talk about them.

Your failure to do this is creating your own burden. Such behavior from a people so familiar with the consequences of the disrespect of their own humanity (hearkening back to the Boer War/Genocide) hardly elicits much sympathy.

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You call me a racist (help uncle Roosh...), I call you a bigger one.

If that makes you feel better, then go for it. I do not have anything to prove to you.