Quote: (06-23-2015 09:46 AM)Samseau Wrote:
Quote: (06-23-2015 07:48 AM)Noir Wrote:
Quote: (06-23-2015 03:47 AM)Samseau Wrote:
Quote: (06-22-2015 05:58 PM)poutsara Wrote:
The ~50% of 25-34 year old Greeks living with their parents even holds true for Greeks in America. We can debate if that is bad or good, but the family ties are strong, and it is not due to financial problems - it's by choice (or tradition). The more anglo-sphere you are the more likely the parents will kick the kids to the curb. Old school Greek parents may hassle their kids on a daily basis to no end but will also stand by them to the end (and cook and clean for them too).
Sorry, I don't believe you. Got any sources for your claims? I know plenty of Greeks in America, haven't seen any who stay in their Mom's house over their own place.
http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=gr&v=25
Greek birth rates plummeting like a rock indicates that they are staying in their parents house because they have no where else to go. Low birth rates, kids staying in Mom's house are all from the same cause = shit economy.
I am Greek and it is true. From before the crisis to after, the 'living with parents' percentage was always and will remain high.
In some places, the parents start building floors above their houses for their children and spouses to move in.
It's purely cultural and more of a 'in spite' of rather than a 'due to' kind of thing.
We have a word for these people, 'mammothreftoi' (rough translation: mother-bred)
If the birth rates were high or normal and people continued to live with their families then people would be right this is the only cause, otherwise the available evidence indicates for every mother-bred family there is also a man stuck at home with no job.
Another data point - are Italian's mother-bred as well? Or the Portuguese? Or Bulgaria? Romania? The numbers are huge all across southern Europe and you guys are trying to put the cause on a single cultural factor? Makes no sense.
Speaking of Portugal: Yes. But it is also a mix of culture and shit economy.