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08-21-2014, 02:38 PM
Quote: (07-22-2014 10:07 AM)Kaii Wrote:
Have any of you been in this situation? How did you handle it?
I really just want to feel free.
Yes I used to be in your exact situation (IT contractor for big investment banks).
I quit, decided leave my cubicle dwelling existence behind forever, travelled and lived all around the world for several years (including one around the world trip which took took 2 years and 3 months), wrote a book and became a asexual revolutionary.
I like my new job much better.
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08-21-2014, 08:22 PM
I used to work in IT and I totally hated the antisocial nature of the work so I simply quit. This was a number of years ago.
I spent my time on following my passions and self improvement. Looking back, right now, I don't have the money I would of had, had I stayed in IT. But that is no worries. In a few years I will have caught up financially doing what I want to do rather then something I totally dislike.
I don't do 9 to 5 but recently had to catch a train early in the morning with the commuters. The train was packed like a tin of sardines and it was total misery. I had to laugh and thank my lucky stars I had left the rat race behind.
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08-22-2014, 12:38 AM
I made a vow many years that I would never drive more than a half hour one way to work. Anybody who commutes for longer than this is crazy. Commuting is a lifesuck.
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08-22-2014, 04:31 AM
For me the most depressing part of work has always been the people and the office politics. The actual work was fun and easy, and there's always ways to avoid actually having to drive a shitty commute (public transit, carpool, etc). The hard part was dealing with gossip and politics and clicks and passive aggressive bitches (male and female). The constant judging and testing and prodding and probing and whispering and challenging that comes with being 1) younger than everyone else, 2) a different race than everyone else, 3) the only network guy in a shop full of server guys, 4) the only contractor in a shop full of permanent guys, or 5) a single guy in an office full of miserable married people, is so daunting that you end up spending most of your time worrying about who not to piss off just to keep your job than you do the actual nuts and bolts of the job. You end up preparing for the next "challenge" or mind-fuck from an old grizzled miserable married guy, instead of preparing for work so you can do your job, to prove your worth to a bunch of assholes in a shop who think you don't deserve to be here anyway. You can sway one or two, but there's always a handful that just refuse to believe you actually have talent, and those people will constantly make your life shit because they will publicly and privately challenge every decision you make. And every mistake you make is being recorded. Forget what they say about it being ok to make mistakes or ask questions. Every stupid question or mistake is ammunition for guys that don't want you to be there. Eventually I got good enough to where they can't challenge me anymore, because I've been in the game for a while and can cut them pieces with actual fact and experience, but it leaves a mark for sure. My earlier career wasn't enjoyable at all. Just the little moments with me and the network gear. Sad but true. In a way it's kind of hazing I guess. Hazing without the camaraderie and sense of brotherhood that comes after you make it through. After you make it through, the most you can expect to get is a friend invite on LinkedIn with a message fondly reminiscing about the good 'ol days. Fuck that and fuck them.
I hear you guys, leaving the rat race to pursue your dreams. But I have a certain standard of living that I've become accustomed to. Especially traveling and being an international player...I don't wanna travel broke and I really enjoy being able to buy what I want and live in nice apartments when I travel. Like I tell my European friends, it's not the money I actually like, it's the freedom that money buys you. For us American guys, we are so lucky to be from a country with so many job opportunities, especially in IT. Shit, we can work remotely, work contracts half the year, or permanent, or anything in between, for high six figs. The jobs are endless and plentiful. There are so many different ways to skin that cat, you should be able to find one that works for you. This isn't Hungary or Congo, where you're extremely limited on what choices you have.
If you think that the only possible job you can do is a permanent one you're doing it wrong. If you think that your only options are the rat race or not working at all, you're not thinking outside the box. It's easier than you think to set yourself up with disposable IT cash and free time to travel/bang.
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08-22-2014, 11:30 AM
Quote: (08-21-2014 08:45 PM)The Wire Wrote:
Quote: (08-21-2014 08:22 PM)Heathree Wrote:
I used to work in IT and I totally hated the antisocial nature of the work so I simply quit. This was a number of years ago.
I spent my time on following my passions and self improvement. Looking back, right now, I don't have the money I would of had, had I stayed in IT. But that is no worries. In a few years I will have caught up financially doing what I want to do rather then something I totally dislike.
I don't do 9 to 5 but recently had to catch a train early in the morning with the commuters. The train was packed like a tin of sardines and it was total misery. I had to laugh and thank my lucky stars I had left the rat race behind.
So what do you do now?
I agree the most depressing aspect of the rat race for me has always been the commute aspect. I've been lucky that I have been able to move within a 10 min commute to my office so there is no morning rat race.
I run my own business. I can't say it makes a fortune (in fact it made a loss last year) but with the skills developed over time, it can make money in the future.
I left it behind to do self employed sales where I was free to work the hours I wished and lots of autonomy.
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08-26-2014, 09:22 PM
^ If you ever worked closely with a team on a sizable codebase that involves keeping a close eye on source control and builds then not being able to quickly resolve things in person with your team can be brutal. Add on language barriers to things that need precision an it adds more time.
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08-27-2014, 11:30 AM
All,
This is a great thread, thanks for keeping it alive. I know we talked about a PM list. However, in checking the CP, there isn't a way you can mass PM people at a time (mods let me know if there is a way).
In the sprit of keeping this alive (we have an awesome number of IT folks here), I am going to start a new thread.
In the new thread, we can all share our skills, location, avaiable for contact, etc (just an example). I think it will really people connect with other IT folks who share our philoshpy. Plus, I really love the idea of our community getting better jobs/income between each other
I'll update this thread again once the new one is created.
Thank you all!
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