Quote: (02-18-2015 09:56 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

Quote: (02-18-2015 09:29 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

Seems like Manila is an extreme market for rental property.

It's made out as if in Manila it's either slum living or $700+/month rent. That shit is approaching Tokyo where I paid $900/month in the best area possible. Doesn't make sense to me. Meanwhile some of the girls I talk to stay in dorms for $30/month. Why isn't there a middle ground?

I've never been to Manila, but I asked someone about it. In Bangkok there is accommodation for every price range. $100 a month up to as much as you want to spend. Right now I live in a 40ish square meter one bedroom condo with washing machine, soft and really nice queen sized bed, flat screen tv, etc. for $450 per month. You can get a similar place for $350 per month in a studio version of about 30 square meters.

I was told the reason this type of thing doesn't exist so much in Manila is because there isn't the same size middle class there as in BKK. Bangkok has a very large, and growing, middle class. So these mid range priced condos are in high demand. But I was told in Manila the middle class is still very small in comparison, so you have cheap accommodation for the poor people, and expensive accommodation for the upper class.

Anyone know if there's much truth to that?

I'd say he's mostly wrong from my experience living here.

My place is in one of the best neighborhoods in the city. I have an unobstructed view of the Makati skyline in a 61sqm loft, 15ft ceilings, brand new bed, flat screen, etc. for $775 a month. Bills bring it to $1000. But this place would be 3x as much in a major USA coastal city.

You can get places in the Fort/Makati/Ortigas/etc for around $450-$900 that sound like what you have or even bigger. It's a bit more than BKK for sure, maybe 20-25%?

For example, I looked at a 1br, 40sq, washer, nice bed, corner unit, for $550 near my place now.

It does have a smaller middle class at the moment, but it is growing rapidly here. It's growing faster than BKKs in fact. This place is exploding right now, hence the price hikes.

Also, many middle class families live in homes, not condos, in places like Paranaque or QC.

But there are more and more condos here. And you can get yearly leases for decent to very nice places from $450 to $900 a month.

I've traveled abroad on and off for the last 20 years, and have learned from experience. the laws of economics still apply, even to bangs.



   

This topic "How much does it cost to live in Thailand" always results in heated discussions. The problem is that everyone wants a hard number when in reality it would more accurate to say that price varies greatly. Could you live in Thailand on $800/month with a decent apartment or house and still have enough money to go out a couple of times a week and game women? Of course you could - millions of Thai guys live on that amount (even less) and these guys usually own a financed vehicle with monthly payments to worry about. On the other hand there are millions of single Thai guys who need more than $5000, often much more. The prices here mirror income, net worth and status like no other place I have ever seen. A friend of mine was grumbling the other day about the price of the Gym he works out at in Chiang Mai. Of course Touch Gym is expensive, I told him. Why do you think the treadmills face out into the mall (Maya)? The idea is that members want everyone to see that they can afford to work out there. When I used to live in Bangkok my gf, who had a very good salary but didn't come from a wealthy family, preferred to hang out in Thonglor, which was ok because I like it there too. Many of her friends also liked to hang out in Thonglor, but a few had average salaries (for a university grad) and were always borrowing money from her and she used to complain about this constantly. My point is that how much you need to live in Thailand has a lot to do with your social circle. I'm Canadian and for us it's no big deal to have a mixed group of friends with different backgrounds, but here it's different. So if you start gaming so called 'hi-so' girls be prepared to spend a lot of time at expensive restaurants, clubs and events.

Quote: (02-18-2015 10:28 AM)The Llort Wrote:  

Yea, it's kind of absurd. I'm not sure one can justify living in a 3rd world dive like Manilla and paying through the nose for it, when you have beautiful EU cities that are significantly cheaper.

I think we're going to see a big shift away from SEA to EE in the near future, at least with the location independent crowd.

Many elements of EE (depending on city/country) can be cheaper than say SE Asia, Phils, or parts of Latin America. I think we don't see a full-fledged movement amongst location independent to EE likely bc of weather tho...

Quote: (02-18-2015 10:28 AM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

I think part of the reason for 20's low cost of living suggestions comes down to simply how he games. I think he pretty much just does online game and spends the absolute minimum possible on dates i.e. $1 ice cream dates.

I don't get the impression THC and Fisto live on remotely similar budgets to 20Nation.

For me the minimum to live how I'd like to live is about $3,000 a month including in 3rd world countries. Although I find $4,500+ the sweet spot where I live really well.

$3,000 a month in the US would be alright if you simply had rent as basically your only big outlay. But what about when you like many 20 somethings have student loans, drive to work etc. That $3,000 a month quickly evaporates.

I do a lot of online game as well, especially when I'm traveling on business and don't have time to walk around malls all day.

The conversion rates are quite high for me if I get them on Skype (which IIRC is his online game tip), especially in Latin America and in Asia. I can see where he gets that 10/10 number, simply because there isn't an easier place really.

I just came back from BKK, and from a visitors perspective I wouldn't want to spend less than $2k/month, and I barely drink.

I think you need to spend at least $750 on a decent condo to show to the girls that you aren't there for the Nana bargirls. Other than that everything is cheap, so I guess you could do it for $1500, but not $1000 unless you're in some shithole apartment.

@ RioNomad

Manila never has been a cheap place - between 2008-2012 I lived in BKK and frequently visited MNL - I felt MNL at that time was slightly more expensive than BKK. Regarding accomodation you are 100% correct: far less options than BKK resulting in higher prices. As BKK prices have dramatically increased past 3 yrs it's probably now bit more expensive than MNL.

I would not want to live in either BKK or MNL on less than 2k ( normal expat lifestyle) or 3k ( longterm party tourist). However the real fun in both places starts around 5k.

Quote: (02-18-2015 02:30 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

Quote: (02-18-2015 10:28 AM)The Llort Wrote:  

Yea, it's kind of absurd. I'm not sure one can justify living in a 3rd world dive like Manilla and paying through the nose for it, when you have beautiful EU cities that are significantly cheaper.

I think we're going to see a big shift away from SEA to EE in the near future, at least with the location independent crowd.

Many elements of EE (depending on city/country) can be cheaper than say SE Asia, Phils, or parts of Latin America. I think we don't see a full-fledged movement amongst location independent to EE likely bc of weather tho...

Apart from the weather the lays are more difficult than in SEA - women in their prime between 18-25 sometimes don't even want to be seen in public, if you are older looking - as she knows that everyone would recognize it for sugar-daddy-dom.

That age can be 40 if you are busted/fat or it can be 55 depending on how fit & good-looking you are. However many wealthy guys have one or several paid mistresses in EE. In fact girls are living off that and actively seek out those arrangements. It's not a bad deal, since I have heard that women do fall in love with those men, if they are more Alpha. But of course it's not really necessary for a man with Game.

Even if the living costs are getting identical I don't think an average dude like this can pull a hottie in her prime so easily in EE:


Not rich. No good shape. Not tall. Not white. Still banging 18-22yo hottie in a LTR.

https://www.patreon.com/reekay

SEA still has a leg up - you may start to spend an equal amount if you want to have a Western lifestyle, but the majority of the population lives in worse conditions than the average EE-local and this will even make a passive income of 1000$ look very solid.

Quote: (02-18-2015 10:28 AM)The Llort Wrote:  

Yea, it's kind of absurd. I'm not sure one can justify living in a 3rd world dive like Manilla and paying through the nose for it, when you have beautiful EU cities that are significantly cheaper.

I think we're going to see a big shift away from SEA to EE in the near future, at least with the location independent crowd.

No one is "paying through the nose" in Manila, and it's never been popular with the location independent crowd anyways.

Numbeo is not accurate, that's why no one here uses it as a reference. For instance, it also claims BKK is more expensive than Manila.

And I'm not disagreeing that Ukraine is a good budget destination, but I also don't think you're going to see some mass migration from Bangkok to Kiev because a head of lettuce is 50 cent cheaper.

When I was in BKK I paid $50/night for a Thong Lor apartment with penthouse gym, pool, doorman, AC etc. Rio told me in person I could still have negotiated that rate by a sizeable percentage.

Quote: (02-19-2015 05:54 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

When I was in BKK I paid $50/night for a Thong Lor apartment with penthouse gym, pool, doorman, AC etc. Rio told me in person I could still have negotiated that rate by a sizeable percentage.

I was probably wrong about that. That was about 3 years ago I think, right? $50 a night for a nice condo in Thonglor for a short term stay is pretty good. It all depends on how nice and where the condo is located though.

Long term though you would get it much cheaper than $50 a night probably, but not short term.

my advice to the author of swooptheworld --> visit the rest of the countries of latin america(brazil,argentina,venezuela,paraguay,uruguay..),i'm sure you will change preferences

Quote: (02-17-2015 09:26 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

Great post but I'm not sure I'd quite agree with the cost of living. I mean $1000 for Latin America? That seems excessively low to me.A decent pad probably will cost $500+ / month. That leaves you $17 a day to live not factoring in food and flights. I could make it work on those numbers but I sure as heck wouldn't want to.

Yeah the cost of living i made a number that i paid and I am a pretty extreme budget traveler. I wrote a post about 14 tips to travel the world cheaply and it's prices that you would pay doing that.

Quote: (02-18-2015 12:34 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

Cost of living is definitely not $800 per month in Thailand, definitely not in Bangkok. Don't come here expecting to live on that. It's double that if you drink at all and want to live in something other than a Thai style shoebox apartment.

I also know 20 Nation wrote that Insanity nightclub is the best club in Bangkok, when in reality it is filled with hookers and one of the worst clubs in the city. I don't think he ever went to RCA or Thonglor. No offense to 20, but online game and Insanity is scraping bottom of the barrel in Bangkok. I don't think he had a very good handle on the city at all so I'd take his Bkk info with a grain of salt.

The cost of living wasn't meant for just capital cities it was meant as a general guide for people thinking of staying in whichever cities they want in ALL of south east asia. I don't think 800$ would be enough in Bangkok either even for a budget traveler.

Also I havent written much on Thailand (because all I know THC showed me) but I think it depends on what you are looking for. What THC and I were looking for in those moments were young hot girls who were easy. The rest we didn't care about. I can see how you living there for a while you would prefer overall higher quality girls, but since I was there for just a few weeks, I was more just focused on having a good time with easy girls. And that club was a near sure thing for a ONS (although yes full of pros and semi pros).

Quote: (02-18-2015 05:44 AM)Enigma Wrote:  

Quote: (02-18-2015 04:44 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

All major cities have by far greater living costs. The Swooptheworld crew is very price-conscious. 20Nation once said that in many countries he spends something like 3-5$ / bang. Of course some South American countries have massive housing problems and 1000$ won't cut it.

$800 is not the budget anywhere, outside of maybe a handful of cities.

I know where 20 stayed in Davao, and it's $500 a month. That leaves $10 for food, transportation, phone, dates, laundry, basic necessities, etc.

$3 to $5 is cab fare. Two coffees is another $6.

That's not to say $800 isn't doable, but it's not CLOSE to the standard of living you'd get in the US at $3,000/month. It's also something most guys here aren't going to find comfortable or desirable.

I'm also a little confused about the part where SEA girls are a 10/10 for ease of one night stands, while the West is only an 8/10.

The place I stayed in DAvao was 300$ a month. And I spent under 400$ for the rest of my bills. I spent under 700$ for my month in Davao.

The reason I put SEA girls as 10/10 is because even conservative philippine girls I had i really high ONS close rate. Then, most of the conservative girls in other SEA countries I ran into usually didn't speak English, so they are kind of out of the question for a lot of the travelers.

Quote: (02-18-2015 07:12 AM)Chaos Wrote:  

This generalisation is ridicilous.
Living on 800$ a month in Manila?
Good luck and have fun!

No thanks, I'd rather stay home.

That's what it is though, it's a quick guide and Manila is one of the most expensive cities in all of SEA. I said it was 800$ (as a budget traveler) on average for SEA. I traveled tiny cities, second and third tier cities and capitals. 800$ is general because it's a small newsletter and I'm not going to go into detail city by city. That being said, while I was in Quezon City I noticed that you could find really cheap apartments. But if you only want to stay in the nicest area of the nicest city in the country, it will definitely be over 800$

Quote: (02-19-2015 07:36 AM)aguirre Wrote:  

my advice to the author of swooptheworld --> visit the rest of the countries of latin america(brazil,argentina,venezuela,paraguay,uruguay..),i'm sure you will change preferences

I've been to Venezuela and THC has been to Brazil. But actually THC and I are thinking about a trip through all of South America. So we will see

No offense to anyone but Insanity is 95-99% hookers, it's probably the biggest monger late night club the last couple years. No one who sets foot in that place should be able to convince themselves it's a normal club.

Ease shouldn't be judged based on Insanity and places like that, if it was Mixx then you could at least have plausible deniability.

Quote: (02-19-2015 07:07 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2015 05:54 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

When I was in BKK I paid $50/night for a Thong Lor apartment with penthouse gym, pool, doorman, AC etc. Rio told me in person I could still have negotiated that rate by a sizeable percentage.

I was probably wrong about that. That was about 3 years ago I think, right? $50 a night for a nice condo in Thonglor for a short term stay is pretty good. It all depends on how nice and where the condo is located though.

Long term though you would get it much cheaper than $50 a night probably, but not short term.

2012 And I might not have provided all the detail on my accommodation so you were likely giving an estimate on limited data.

I don't agree with this article at all, it's very biased and it looks like it has been written by a guy who can't get laid in the west (or had some problems with the girls there).

% of bangable girls in the west is 20%? lol, it's ridiculous..

bodies of girls: is there really a difference between the west and EE? If anything it's the opposite...EE girls tend to have shitty teeth and bad feet (and often bad skin complexion too but it's generally well hidden under tons of foundation).

personalities of girls: lol this is really funny....west 3/10 and EE 8/10, you can't be serious....EE girls' personalities suck, they are boring as fuck and only care about money. It takes some guts to rate them ON AVERAGE 8/10.

cost of living is totally inaccurate too...1200$ in EE, yeah right...maybe just in Ukraine and Moldova and if you're willing to live a shitty life

Quote: (02-19-2015 06:03 PM)Gosh900 Wrote:  

I don't agree with this article at all, it's very biased and it looks like it has been written by a guy who can't get laid in the west (or had some problems with the girls there).

% of bangable girls in the west is 20%? lol, it's ridiculous..

bodies of girls: is there really a difference between the west and EE? If anything it's the opposite...EE girls tend to have shitty teeth and bad feet (and often bad skin complexion too but it's generally well hidden under tons of foundation).

personalities of girls: lol this is really funny....west 3/10 and EE 8/10, you can't be serious....EE girls' personalities suck, they are boring as fuck and only care about money. It takes some guts to rate them ON AVERAGE 8/10.

cost of living is totally inaccurate too...1200$ in EE, yeah right...maybe just in Ukraine and Moldova and if you're willing to live a shitty life

Agree with Bold. The percentage might be lower.

Quote: (02-19-2015 06:26 PM)Kaizen Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2015 06:03 PM)Gosh900 Wrote:  

I don't agree with this article at all, it's very biased and it looks like it has been written by a guy who can't get laid in the west (or had some problems with the girls there).

% of bangable girls in the west is 20%? lol, it's ridiculous..

bodies of girls: is there really a difference between the west and EE? If anything it's the opposite...EE girls tend to have shitty teeth and bad feet (and often bad skin complexion too but it's generally well hidden under tons of foundation).

personalities of girls: lol this is really funny....west 3/10 and EE 8/10, you can't be serious....EE girls' personalities suck, they are boring as fuck and only care about money. It takes some guts to rate them ON AVERAGE 8/10.

cost of living is totally inaccurate too...1200$ in EE, yeah right...maybe just in Ukraine and Moldova and if you're willing to live a shitty life

Agree with Bold. The percentage might be lower.

"The West" should be renamed The Anglosphere. There are plenty of tasty girls in continental western Europe, which is probably Gosh900's perspective on this. Quality in France, Germany and Italy all beats the UK in my experience, though those are harder places to SNL.

Quote: (02-19-2015 06:03 PM)Gosh900 Wrote:  

I don't agree with this article at all, it's very biased and it looks like it has been written by a guy who can't get laid in the west (or had some problems with the girls there).

% of bangable girls in the west is 20%? lol, it's ridiculous..

bodies of girls: is there really a difference between the west and EE? If anything it's the opposite...EE girls tend to have shitty teeth and bad feet (and often bad skin complexion too but it's generally well hidden under tons of foundation).

personalities of girls: lol this is really funny....west 3/10 and EE 8/10, you can't be serious....EE girls' personalities suck, they are boring as fuck and only care about money. It takes some guts to rate them ON AVERAGE 8/10.

cost of living is totally inaccurate too...1200$ in EE, yeah right...maybe just in Ukraine and Moldova and if you're willing to live a shitty life

Seriously - I don't know what you are talking about. 20Nation has been touring with Roosh and he can vouch for him as well as many others.

His conquests - yeah - I am sure you are banging 10 times better than him:


Your utterings are without any reason or awareness. Shitty teeth and bad feet?

20% bangable girls in the West? Depending on what age group you pick - 18-35 - well that could be about right. You have the black community in the US, which some black bloggers attest to having an obesity rate of 75% there. So that makes 25% bangable black chicks. Generalizations like that are always hard, but to be honest the number of bangable girls has been declining rapidly in the West for quite some time. 20Nation likely has some kind of metric he came up with those numbers. If your standards are low enough and you are willing to bang 2s and 3s, then I am sure, that you will find higher ratings. And it certainly is not a cut through 18 year old college girls.

1200$ not being enough for long-term decent lifestyle in EE? You can rent a luxury appartment for 500$ and if you don't insist on having bottle-service every night like a chump, then 1200$ is enough. There are only a few places like Prague which are different - but even in those areas you have plenty of Daygame options.

Sometimes I wonder whether those opinions are pulled from PUAHAte sites.

By the way - I have met guys for whom spending less than 50.000$ per month on living expenses meant a shitty life, so that is indeed relative.

One thing that I have learned from this thread is that Eastern Europe is far cheaper than I expected. And that those cursed "location nomad" blogs overhype the cheapness of Southeast Asia. Thank god for this forum!

Quote: (02-19-2015 06:34 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2015 06:03 PM)Gosh900 Wrote:  

I don't agree with this article at all, it's very biased and it looks like it has been written by a guy who can't get laid in the west (or had some problems with the girls there).

% of bangable girls in the west is 20%? lol, it's ridiculous..

bodies of girls: is there really a difference between the west and EE? If anything it's the opposite...EE girls tend to have shitty teeth and bad feet (and often bad skin complexion too but it's generally well hidden under tons of foundation).

personalities of girls: lol this is really funny....west 3/10 and EE 8/10, you can't be serious....EE girls' personalities suck, they are boring as fuck and only care about money. It takes some guts to rate them ON AVERAGE 8/10.

cost of living is totally inaccurate too...1200$ in EE, yeah right...maybe just in Ukraine and Moldova and if you're willing to live a shitty life

Seriously - I don't know what you are talking about. 20Nation has been touring with Roosh and he can vouch for him as well as many others.

His conquests - yeah - I am sure you are banging 10 times better than him:


Your utterings are without any reason or awareness. Shitty teeth and bad feet?

20% bangable girls in the West? Depending on what age group you pick - 18-35 - well that could be about right. You have the black community in the US, which some black bloggers attest to having an obesity rate of 75% there. So that makes 25% bangable black chicks. Generalizations like that are always hard, but to be honest the number of bangable girls has been declining rapidly in the West for quite some time. 20Nation likely has some kind of metric he came up with those numbers. If your standards are low enough and you are willing to bang 2s and 3s, then I am sure, that you will find higher ratings. And it certainly is not a cut through 18 year old college girls.

1200$ not being enough for long-term decent lifestyle in EE? You can rent a luxury appartment for 500$ and if you don't insist on having bottle-service every night like a chump, then 1200$ is enough. There are only a few places like Prague which are different - but even in those areas you have plenty of Daygame options.

Sometimes I wonder whether those opinions are pulled from PUAHAte sites.

By the way - I have met guys for whom spending less than 50.000$ per month on living expenses meant a shitty life, so that is indeed relative.

Just LOL.
I have no time to argue endlessly but what do you mean by West? I guess West Europe is west, right? otherwise you should have written USA (or whatever you meant by "West").

If west Europe is West I can say without a shadow of a doubt that my city (Milan) has far more gorgeous girls than 95% of EE cities. Models are just EVERYWHERE. I even have them in the building where I live. EE cities? just LOL, the best girls from there are here trying a career in modeling or have been taken here after being discovered by some scout (that's the 2s and 3s you were talking about).
Not to say that every country in EE has a higher obesity rate than my country. So, next time specify better what you mean by "West".

And if you go to Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Netherlands, Spain ecc would you bang just 20% of the girls? Come on...

I talked about EE because I like to talk about things I know personally. I've never been to LA or SEA so I didn't talk about that but I've been (and lived) in EE lots of times so I know how things are there.
1200$ (1000€) it's not enough to live a comfortable life in EE and you know why I'm saying that? because guess what....I actually lived there. Erasmus 2013. As I said the only places where you can live with that money are Ukraine and Moldavia and probably some others shitty cities off the beaten path (ie shitholes).
For the rest you need more money if you wanna live a decent life.

P.S: please man, don't post pictures of EE's girls...you're degrading yourself...can't you bang those same girls in your native city? It's known that everybody can bang those girls in EE, he just needs to splash out some money

Quote: (02-18-2015 07:17 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

75% of the girls in Asia are bangable?

C'mon Bro!

This... (Even though my boy stated he's hungout with 20Nation so I know it isn't some random guy)

Looks are so subjective I know for a fact I personally am bias towards EE which the average looking tall model-like chick would go further in my books than a gorgeous short asian chick. I'm a dude who on "average" doesn't find asian chicks that hot (especially since I like my girls 5'10+) and can only recall tall asian/russian chicks who truly had my interest peaked. (with a select few being some really gorgeous normal height asian chicks)

P.S...After my decision to never bang another short chick in March 2013, only 1 girl I ever banged who was short and that was my FB who eventually I would no longer overlook the short-factor and cut her off. Haven't been with a short girl since my FB

Quote: (02-19-2015 07:16 PM)Gosh900 Wrote:  

I talked about EE because I like to talk about things I know personally. I've never been to LA or SEA so I didn't talk about that but I've been (and lived) in EE lots of times so I know how things are there.
1200$ (1000€) it's not enough to live a comfortable life in EE and you know why I'm saying that? because guess what....I actually lived there. Erasmus 2013. As I said the only places where you can live with that money are Ukraine and Moldavia and probably some others shitty cities off the beaten path (ie shitholes).
For the rest you need more money if you wanna live a decent life.

P.S: please man, don't post pictures of EE's girls...you're degrading yourself...can't you bang those same girls in your native city? It's known that everybody can bang those girls in EE, he just needs to splash out some money

Guess what - I live in EE for years now - moved here 4 years ago. Erasmus students are not a good example of the costs necessary. Average decent wage in EE is roughly 800$. 1200$ lets you buy even property - this is long-term lifestyle. If you want to have dinner every day at a restaurant, then yes it will not be enough. But on that note, 4000$ in most Western cities won't cut it, because you will spend 3000$ on restaurants alone.

So decent is a matter of the beholder.

Milan and NYC or even LA are not cities which display the fatocalypse happening in the USA, UK and most of Western Europe. Italy is generally much better - young girls are much slimmer - Austria and Germany is not so good though and Denmark - well, times have been much better.

Fucking special low-tier Erasmus sluts is not a good sign of EE, because those are specific kind of 5s and 6s who deal with that.

Everyone can bang those girls if he splashes out some money? Good luck with that - you are the biggest Player in the world obviously, because it's not as easy as it seems.

The primary difference that I see in cost between Manila, Bangkok, and let's say Jakarta are the options.

Bangkok simply has way more options than either of those two cities. You can find OK accommodation in the $500 range (Lumpini, Grand or any of the middle class developments fit the bill.)

At the higher end $700-$1000 (Address, sansiri, etc..) the number of units for rent jumps way up because a lot upper class Bangkok individuals bought a lot of those units and just let them sit. There's a bit of a glut of leasable units. Plus it's beyond the salary range for most middle class Thais for long term leasing. This means loc. independent expats like some of us get way more options in Bangkok than any other city.

In Manila the decent condo developments are limited to a few well known areas but that's changing now. I see way more options on airbnb now and it seems that more and more OFW Filipinos who buy condos are getting in on this action. The unfortunate side effect is that a lot of realty services are trying to ply their trade and these guys tend to be much shadier than private owners.

When it comes to general living costs I do think Bangkok is cheaper overall though. There are so many options to eat very well in Bangkok. Plus transportation is so simple because everything is central to the skytrain/MRT or a short taxi ride away from one of the lines.

Quote: (02-19-2015 06:31 PM)dreambig Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2015 06:26 PM)Kaizen Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2015 06:03 PM)Gosh900 Wrote:  

I don't agree with this article at all, it's very biased and it looks like it has been written by a guy who can't get laid in the west (or had some problems with the girls there).

% of bangable girls in the west is 20%? lol, it's ridiculous..

bodies of girls: is there really a difference between the west and EE? If anything it's the opposite...EE girls tend to have shitty teeth and bad feet (and often bad skin complexion too but it's generally well hidden under tons of foundation).

personalities of girls: lol this is really funny....west 3/10 and EE 8/10, you can't be serious....EE girls' personalities suck, they are boring as fuck and only care about money. It takes some guts to rate them ON AVERAGE 8/10.

cost of living is totally inaccurate too...1200$ in EE, yeah right...maybe just in Ukraine and Moldova and if you're willing to live a shitty life

Agree with Bold. The percentage might be lower.

"The West" should be renamed The Anglosphere. There are plenty of tasty girls in continental western Europe, which is probably Gosh900's perspective on this. Quality in France, Germany and Italy all beats the UK in my experience, though those are harder places to SNL.

I meant The Anglosphere. Over 95% of the people that visit Swooptheworld are from USA or UK, so I wasn't thinking about it too much. If I was talking about those other countries that number would definitely be different.

Quote: (02-19-2015 07:17 PM)Distant Light Wrote:  

Quote: (02-18-2015 07:17 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

75% of the girls in Asia are bangable?

C'mon Bro!

This... (Even though my boy stated he's hungout with 20Nation so I know it isn't some random guy)

Looks are so subjective I know for a fact I personally am bias towards EE which the average looking tall model-like chick would go further in my books than a gorgeous short asian chick. I'm a dude who on "average" doesn't find asian chicks that hot (especially since I like my girls 5'10+) and can only recall tall asian/russian chicks who truly had my interest peaked. (with a select few being some really gorgeous normal height asian chicks)

P.S...After my decision to never bang another short chick in March 2013, only 1 girl I ever banged who was short and that was my FB who eventually I would no longer overlook the short-factor and cut her off. Haven't been with a short girl since my FB

Yeah, I don't have an overall preference personally. To me, SEA girls are almost always thin. They have more of a similar look and I feel like I don't see as many ugly girls walking around ie really big nose, manly features and things like that. However, I don't see near as many stunners in SEA as I did in LA and EE.

Quote: (02-19-2015 07:16 PM)Gosh900 Wrote:  

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Ok can some please answer seriously. I have met and heard enough of them now. Through family friends, them studying here, tourists... doesn't matter.

Why do all the Italian, Spanish, and French guys I have known get all up in other guy's shit all the time?

Have not met one yet I think was a guys' guy.

Is it because women run those countries?