Quote: (09-22-2014 01:32 AM)jariel Wrote:  

Chick originally from Jersey gets scooped up by local at Mango's, moves down to be with him, ends up getting murdered by him.

This is classic Miami shit.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/cr...57880.html

I may or may not know that guy. I'll stay out of this one.

Quote: (09-22-2014 01:37 AM)Merenguero Wrote:  

I may or may not know that guy. I'll stay out of this one.

Just a reminder of how small this town is.

I'm a black male and I live in Miami. Dying to get out. The condo is for sale right now. lol I've been here for years and it was good when Miami had it's own identity. The booty bass music joined all races together. Back then it wasn't nothing to holla at any girl. Of course there were some tough girls, but now it's like 98% are tough.

After booty music died out, you started to see a different vibe. Miami became more and more popular. Right now South Beach is in the top 10 destinations in the world to go to. Crazy right? So the chicks act like their shit don't stink. They guys here reward bad behavior, so they don't change. Even the below average looking chicks here think they are fine. The men are to blame the most because they cake these ho's.

My advice is to visit. You will love it for a vacation if when the funky bitches. Never move here. South Beach actually isn't bad because it's a tourist spot. Outside Miami is basically Latin America. You can get by, but knowing Spanish is a huge plus. Miami Cubans tend to be racist, they are subtle with it. Not like Alabama. The Spanish speaking everywhere will get old quick. Visit for fun, but don't move here.

Miami is 2% feast and 98% famine if you are not one of those guys that are going to break the bank on a chick here. This is why there are so many strip clubs here. Dating is like prostitution, so a lot of guys just go to the strip club to beat the hassle.

Quote: (10-17-2014 06:36 PM)deboinair Wrote:  

I'm a black male and I live in Miami. Dying to get out. The condo is for sale right now. lol I've been here for years and it was good when Miami had it's own identity. The booty bass music joined all races together. Back then it wasn't nothing to holla at any girl. Of course there were some tough girls, but now it's like 98% are tough.

After booty music died out, you started to see a different vibe. Miami became more and more popular. Right now South Beach is in the top 10 destinations in the world to go to. Crazy right? So the chicks act like their shit don't stink. They guys here reward bad behavior, so they don't change. Even the below average looking chicks here think they are fine. The men are to blame the most because they cake these ho's.

My advice is to visit. You will love it for a vacation if when the funky bitches. Never move here. South Beach actually isn't bad because it's a tourist spot. Outside Miami is basically Latin America. You can get by, but knowing Spanish is a huge plus. Miami Cubans tend to be racist, they are subtle with it. Not like Alabama. The Spanish speaking everywhere will get old quick. Visit for fun, but don't move here.

Miami is 2% feast and 98% famine if you are not one of those guys that are going to break the bank on a chick here. This is why there are so many strip clubs here. Dating is like prostitution, so a lot of guys just go to the strip club to beat the hassle.

Thanks - good post - any thoughts on living in Ft Lauderdale?

Quote: (10-18-2014 05:26 PM)TheBMan Wrote:  

Quote: (10-17-2014 06:36 PM)deboinair Wrote:  

I'm a black male and I live in Miami. Dying to get out. The condo is for sale right now. lol I've been here for years and it was good when Miami had it's own identity. The booty bass music joined all races together. Back then it wasn't nothing to holla at any girl. Of course there were some tough girls, but now it's like 98% are tough.

After booty music died out, you started to see a different vibe. Miami became more and more popular. Right now South Beach is in the top 10 destinations in the world to go to. Crazy right? So the chicks act like their shit don't stink. They guys here reward bad behavior, so they don't change. Even the below average looking chicks here think they are fine. The men are to blame the most because they cake these ho's.

My advice is to visit. You will love it for a vacation if when the funky bitches. Never move here. South Beach actually isn't bad because it's a tourist spot. Outside Miami is basically Latin America. You can get by, but knowing Spanish is a huge plus. Miami Cubans tend to be racist, they are subtle with it. Not like Alabama. The Spanish speaking everywhere will get old quick. Visit for fun, but don't move here.

Miami is 2% feast and 98% famine if you are not one of those guys that are going to break the bank on a chick here. This is why there are so many strip clubs here. Dating is like prostitution, so a lot of guys just go to the strip club to beat the hassle.

Thanks - good post - any thoughts on living in Ft Lauderdale?

Im interested in hearing how Ft. Lauderdale compares.


Also Debonair are you fluent in Spanish? Do you find it somewhat easier to game locals if u speak spanish?

Quote: (10-18-2014 05:26 PM)TheBMan Wrote:  

Quote: (10-17-2014 06:36 PM)deboinair Wrote:  

I'm a black male and I live in Miami. Dying to get out. The condo is for sale right now. lol I've been here for years and it was good when Miami had it's own identity. The booty bass music joined all races together. Back then it wasn't nothing to holla at any girl. Of course there were some tough girls, but now it's like 98% are tough.

After booty music died out, you started to see a different vibe. Miami became more and more popular. Right now South Beach is in the top 10 destinations in the world to go to. Crazy right? So the chicks act like their shit don't stink. They guys here reward bad behavior, so they don't change. Even the below average looking chicks here think they are fine. The men are to blame the most because they cake these ho's.

My advice is to visit. You will love it for a vacation if when the funky bitches. Never move here. South Beach actually isn't bad because it's a tourist spot. Outside Miami is basically Latin America. You can get by, but knowing Spanish is a huge plus. Miami Cubans tend to be racist, they are subtle with it. Not like Alabama. The Spanish speaking everywhere will get old quick. Visit for fun, but don't move here.

Miami is 2% feast and 98% famine if you are not one of those guys that are going to break the bank on a chick here. This is why there are so many strip clubs here. Dating is like prostitution, so a lot of guys just go to the strip club to beat the hassle.

Thanks - good post - any thoughts on living in Ft Lauderdale?

Im interested in hearing how Ft. Lauderdale compares.


Also, Debonair are you fluent in Spanish? Do you find it somewhat easier to game locals if you speak spanish?

What would you guys say about someone moving down to Miami to work? Say start a career in real estate?

Or perhaps Lauderdale..?

I would say moving here for a career change/start is a bad idea.

If you're already established and working with a headhunter who's going to put you into a situation, and let's say you're highly educated and you've established yourself elsewhere, you can get paid fairly/well, otherwise you're taking the sunshine discount.

Ft. Lauderdale is another world in comparison to Miami, even how they set up their streets/neighborhoods is different (very confusing for someone from Dade County given all of our shit is typically easy to find, i.e. most shit you need to go to is off US-1).

In terms of women, Ft. Lauderdale is mostly white girls (who tend to have some serious fat asses) and Black girls from the Caribbean who have their share of ratchetness, but it's not hard to come up on like a bangin' Trinidadian who is pure flames.

If you like latinas, you can find them in areas like Sunrise, Pembroke Pines, and Mirarmar. They will typically be either Colombian or Venezuelan, and you can find them at clubs like Se7en (a Dominican club in Miramar), Cafe Iguana, Congas, and if you're really adventurous, you can check out a spot called Paladium in Margate, but that will be mostly Colombian MILFs who have had a ton plastic surgery. If you're down for that, you can score pretty easily if you can dance, Saturday nights are Open Bar and everyone is pretty much plastered by the end of the night and it's Margate, so people live close to the club, you will get taken home.

If you're Black and moving to South Florida, you're better off in Broward. I'm sure I've said this, but the white guys in Broward tend to be gay, so the chicks are with Black dudes by default, it's pretty easy pickings.

Broward women will more likely than not work and have their own place and car. Dade women, won't, not unless they have a sugar daddy or they're comin' up from just straight whorin', hell, probably a little of column A and B. Most Dade women are caught up in some sort of relationship of convenience, living with their parents, or doing the aforementioned.

In the end, I'll never do Broward because it's too damn boring. I fuck with Dade because I believe the talent level here is so low that if you really want to do something big and your shit is on point, you can make some noise.

We'll see if I'm right.

Quote: (10-19-2014 12:20 AM)azulsombra Wrote:  

Do you find it somewhat easier to game locals if you speak spanish?

Not to be rude, but this is kind of obvious. You will do better with women here if you speak Spanish. The younger they are and the higher up on the socioeconomic ladder they are, the less you'll probably need it.

If you like veteranas, then you better step to them in their native tongue to get their native tongue in your mouth.

Keepin' it 100: A lot of Latin people here are actually from NY/NJ, don't let them fool you. Problem for most is, their shit went left up north, i.e. caught a case, got pregnant, had nothing poppin', so they bolted and came down here. If they are Cuban, it's almost guaranteed they have some family here so they had some sort of support system when they made their move.

If it's a female, she probably met some dude and he brought her down here to be with him, you can guess how that shit turns out.

Quote: (10-19-2014 10:18 PM)jariel Wrote:  

Quote: (10-19-2014 12:20 AM)azulsombra Wrote:  

Do you find it somewhat easier to game locals if you speak spanish?

Not to be rude, but this is kind of obvious. You will do better with women here if you speak Spanish. The younger they are and the higher up on the socioeconomic ladder they are, the less you'll probably need it.

If you like veteranas, then you better step to them in their native tongue to get their native tongue in your mouth.

Keepin' it 100: A lot of Latin people here are actually from NY/NJ, don't let them fool you. Problem for most is, their shit went left up north, i.e. caught a case, got pregnant, had nothing poppin', so they bolted and came down here. If they are Cuban, it's almost guaranteed they have some family here so they had some sort of support system when they made their move.

If it's a female, she probably met some dude and he brought her down here to be with him, you can guess how that shit turns out.

As usual, I agree with Jariel here. One thing I have noticed is that when I first started going to Miami, every person who I met either moved from Latin America to either North Jersey or New York to Miami or was originally from North Jersey or New York and moved to Miami. Now, I see much less of a Miami/North Jersey/New York connection for some reason. Also, I'm convinced that at least half of the reason for the Miami failure stories on the forum are because of guys' lack of Spanish skills.

Quote: (10-19-2014 10:18 PM)jariel Wrote:  

Quote: (10-19-2014 12:20 AM)azulsombra Wrote:  

Do you find it somewhat easier to game locals if you speak spanish?

Not to be rude, but this is kind of obvious. You will do better with women here if you speak Spanish. The younger they are and the higher up on the socioeconomic ladder they are, the less you'll probably need it.

If you like veteranas, then you better step to them in their native tongue to get their native tongue in your mouth.

Keepin' it 100: A lot of Latin people here are actually from NY/NJ, don't let them fool you. Problem for most is, their shit went left up north, i.e. caught a case, got pregnant, had nothing poppin', so they bolted and came down here. If they are Cuban, it's almost guaranteed they have some family here so they had some sort of support system when they made their move.

If it's a female, she probably met some dude and he brought her down here to be with him, you can guess how that shit turns out.

As usual, I agree with Jariel here. One thing I have noticed is that when I first started going to Miami, every person who I met either moved from Latin America to either North Jersey or New York to Miami or was originally from North Jersey or New York and moved to Miami. Now, I see much less of a Miami/North Jersey/New York connection for some reason. Also, I'm convinced that at least half of the reason for the Miami failure stories on the forum is because of guys' lack of Spanish skills.

Quote: (10-18-2014 05:26 PM)TheBMan Wrote:  

Quote: (10-17-2014 06:36 PM)deboinair Wrote:  

I'm a black male and I live in Miami. Dying to get out. The condo is for sale right now. lol I've been here for years and it was good when Miami had it's own identity. The booty bass music joined all races together. Back then it wasn't nothing to holla at any girl. Of course there were some tough girls, but now it's like 98% are tough.

After booty music died out, you started to see a different vibe. Miami became more and more popular. Right now South Beach is in the top 10 destinations in the world to go to. Crazy right? So the chicks act like their shit don't stink. They guys here reward bad behavior, so they don't change. Even the below average looking chicks here think they are fine. The men are to blame the most because they cake these ho's.

My advice is to visit. You will love it for a vacation if when the funky bitches. Never move here. South Beach actually isn't bad because it's a tourist spot. Outside Miami is basically Latin America. You can get by, but knowing Spanish is a huge plus. Miami Cubans tend to be racist, they are subtle with it. Not like Alabama. The Spanish speaking everywhere will get old quick. Visit for fun, but don't move here.

Miami is 2% feast and 98% famine if you are not one of those guys that are going to break the bank on a chick here. This is why there are so many strip clubs here. Dating is like prostitution, so a lot of guys just go to the strip club to beat the hassle.

Thanks - good post - any thoughts on living in Ft Lauderdale?

You have a better chance in Fort Lauderdale. I was foolishly immature and moved back to Miami in 2008 with staying in Fort Lauderdale for two years. Miami is more city. Ft. Lodi is more surburban, better traffic, and more diverse. I'm just through with South FL period though.

No I'm not fluent in Spanish, but I've dated plenty of Latinas in Miami. Mostly Colombianas. They love the brothas. Problem is they seemed like a lot of them moved out of Miami to Ft. Lodi or Palm Beach. It's about color in Miami now. Like I said it's a Hispanic city. I got a buddy that looks black but is from DR. He speaks fluent Spanish and they act weird with him also. Miami has just changed.

If you are going to kick out cash, you good. Sorry I can't do that, after especially going to Costa Rica, Colombia, and DR over the years.

Quote: (10-19-2014 01:35 PM)Biz Wrote:  

What would you guys say about someone moving down to Miami to work? Say start a career in real estate?

Or perhaps Lauderdale..?

Wherever you go is all about YOUR hustle....

Jefe.

That's what I'm saying. If I'm going to be working in real estate why not go where the money is.

There's lots more money and land down there than up here in Boston.

Quote: (10-22-2014 11:12 AM)Biz Wrote:  

Jefe.

That's what I'm saying. If I'm going to be working in real estate why not go where the money is.

There's lots more money and land down there than up here in Boston.

Miami is first and foremost about who you know; what you know, what you think you know, or what you believe is somewhere between who gives a fuck and who gives less of a fuck.

I know a hell of a lot about that world that you say you want to get into it, and your comments make me believe that you're not really established in it yet.

Anything is possible, so I'm not going to say what one can or can't do, but you better dry up the wetness behind your ears before you come down here and get your feelings hurt.

A Cuban can get here from the island and have a job within a week, even if they're completely unqualified for a position, any position. Meanwhile, non-local UM grads get hated on by the local FIU grads who do the majority of the hiring and thus have a hard time getting work so they have to move back to where they're from to have a better shot at employment.

At the end of the day, Miami is a funny place, most people who move down here -- not counting those who come here to attend college -- are usually running away from something. Think about what it is that you really want, whether or not you have the goods to get it, and your plan for making relationships with mostly cold people who don't give a fuck about helping you get there -- damn near anywhere in Texas would make a lot more sense for pursuing real estate dreams than doing so in Miami .

If you're not Latin and you don't speak Spanish, you're already incredibly behind the 8-ball -- 90% of the jobs will prefer, if not outright demand, bilingual people, even if you're doing some shit like analysis where all you'll be doing is staring at a computer screen.

This is a Latin American city within the borders of the United States, for Latinos, by Latinos, and they don't give a damn how much you don't like it.

Aché pa' ti.

Quote: (10-23-2014 11:17 PM)jariel Wrote:  

Quote: (10-22-2014 11:12 AM)Biz Wrote:  

Jefe.

That's what I'm saying. If I'm going to be working in real estate why not go where the money is.

There's lots more money and land down there than up here in Boston.

Miami is first and foremost about who you know; what you know, what you think you know, or what you believe is somewhere between who gives a fuck and who gives less of a fuck.

I know a hell of a lot about that world that you say you want to get into it, and your comments make me believe that you're not really established in it yet.

Anything is possible, so I'm not going to say what one can or can't do, but you better dry up the wetness behind your ears before you come down here and get your feelings hurt.

A Cuban can get here from the island and have a job within a week, even if they're completely unqualified for a position, any position. Meanwhile, non-local UM grads get hated on by the local FIU grads who do the majority of the hiring and thus have a hard time getting work so they have to move back to where they're from to have a better shot at employment.

At the end of the day, Miami is a funny place, most people who move down here -- not counting those who come here to attend college -- are usually running away from something. Think about what it is that you really want, whether or not you have the goods to get it, and your plan for making relationships with mostly cold people who don't give a fuck about helping you get there -- damn near anywhere in Texas would make a lot more sense for pursuing real estate dreams than doing so in Miami .

If you're not Latin and you don't speak Spanish, you're already incredibly behind the 8-ball -- 90% of the jobs will prefer, if not outright demand, bilingual people, even if you're doing some shit like analysis where all you'll be doing is staring at a computer screen.

This is a Latin American city within the borders of the United States, for Latinos, by Latinos, and they don't give a damn how much you don't like it.

Aché pa' ti.

This. I'm not talking about just the forum here, but about people in general. Many people are surprised or don't understand that you will probably hear more Spanish and other languages than you will English. Many people are surprised or don't understand that white people are a very small minority in Miami. Many people are surprised or don't understand that Spanish is really important to get girls in Miami. Many people are surprised or don't understand that having a lot of expensive material possessions doesn't equal wealth in Miami. All that being said, I do know people who are not Latin and who don't speak Spanish who have done really well in Miami, but they are the minority. A member of my immediate family who for some inexplicable reason does not speak Spanish, has lived in Miami for most of his life and has been extremely successful. He is an exception, not the norm.

Entonces las putas sacaron las cosas a credito o un pendejo lo compro y se las regalo a ellas?

Quote: (10-24-2014 12:04 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

Entonces las putas sacaron las cosas a credito o un pendejo lo compro y se las regalo a ellas?

Yes. It's always one of the two or both.

I've said it before, Miami is nothing but an illusion.

People tend to not be who or what you think they are.

That bad bitch in the club, she left the two kids she had with two different dudes with abuelita for the evening so she could go out and pretend for one night that was she unencumbered and desirable. She's probably still fucking at least one of the dudes who gave her those bastards periodically, so your attempts to get some will be rebuffed because she's not thirsty for it, and she'll take advantage of the other shit you can do because it makes her feel special and she doesn't have the opportunity to take advantage of it that often.

That dude who's jacked and looks like he can pull any bitch he wants, he's unemployed, milking his unemployment or his parents or maybe even his chick, who doesn't look like anything on his level, so that he can hit the gym two times a day and eat his meals regularly.

That dude in the BMW, he's 30 and still lives with his parents, he works at Publix, and uses most of his paycheck on his car note and insurance since he doesn't have to worry about damn near any other bills -- he's also probably a low-level weed dealer.

If you take a drive one day around heavy residential areas you'll notice like 4-5 cars outside a house, a couple in the driveway, a few in the grass, most of them will be late model entry-level luxury whips (328i's, IS 350's, CLA 250's, and S3's, the shit people with real cheese wouldn't fuck with) that's a bunch of grown people still living at home and using their paychecks on material things since they don't have to worry about paying rent, FPL, Comcast, etc. like those of us who don't have nor want that luxury.

Most people don't really have shit, they aren't really shit, and they're never really going to be shit, the quicker you accept that and conduct yourself accordingly, the less number of headaches you'll have.

Jariel is about to get arrested for spitting too much truth.


I have to say, I was considering starting my career in Miami, but having visited the place, seeing the high cost of living (and seeing how shitty the place was, minus the isolated areas of wealth), and seeing the uphill battle Id face, I am not looking to set up camp there.

Quote: (10-24-2014 12:56 AM)jariel Wrote:  

I've said it before, Miami is nothing but an illusion.

People tend to not be who or what you think they are.

That bad bitch in the club, she left the two kids she had with two different dudes with abuelita for the evening so she could go out and pretend for one night that was she unencumbered and desirable. She's probably still fucking at least one of the dudes who gave her those bastards periodically, so your attempts to get some will be rebuffed because she's not thirsty for it, and she'll take advantage of the other shit you can do because it makes her feel special and she doesn't have the opportunity to take advantage of it that often.

That dude who's jacked and looks like he can pull any bitch he wants, he's unemployed, milking his unemployment or his parents or maybe even his chick, who doesn't look like anything on his level, so that he can hit the gym two times a day and eat his meals regularly.

That dude in the BMW, he's 30 and still lives with his parents, he works at Publix, and uses most of his paycheck on his car note and insurance since he doesn't have to worry about damn near any other bills -- he's also probably a low-level weed dealer.

If you take a drive one day around heavy residential areas you'll notice like 4-5 cars outside a house, a couple in the driveway, a few in the grass, most of them will be late model entry-level luxury whips (328i's, IS 350's, CLA 250's, and S3's, the shit people with real cheese wouldn't fuck with) that's a bunch of grown people still living at home and using their paychecks on material things since they don't have to worry about paying rent, FPL, Comcast, etc. like those of us who don't have nor want that luxury.

Most people don't really have shit, they aren't really shit, and they're never really going to be shit, the quicker you accept that and conduct yourself accordingly, the less number of headaches you'll have.

/thread

Quote: (10-24-2014 07:26 AM)Captain Ahab Wrote:  

Jariel is about to get arrested for spitting too much truth.


I have to say, I was considering starting my career in Miami, but having visited the place, seeing the high cost of living (and seeing how shitty the place was, minus the isolated areas of wealth), and seeing the uphill battle Id face, I am not looking to set up camp there.

Did you visit for 2 days or something? I realize Miami isn't for everyone, but this sounds like trolling. The cost of living is nothing compared to places like NYC, D.C., Los Angeles, etc. It's so shitty having all of these hot foreign girls around... please send me to a better place like Zanesville, Ohio.

When guys talk about Miami, I cringe.

The women I hear are ruthless and will trade up for the next best thing in a heartbeat.

Jariel description reminds me of quite a few other places.

Quote: (10-24-2014 09:10 PM)Vitriol Wrote:  

Quote: (10-24-2014 07:26 AM)Captain Ahab Wrote:  

Jariel is about to get arrested for spitting too much truth.


I have to say, I was considering starting my career in Miami, but having visited the place, seeing the high cost of living (and seeing how shitty the place was, minus the isolated areas of wealth), and seeing the uphill battle Id face, I am not looking to set up camp there.

Did you visit for 2 days or something? I realize Miami isn't for everyone, but this sounds like trolling. The cost of living is nothing compared to places like NYC, D.C., Los Angeles, etc. It's so shitty having all of these hot foreign girls around... please send me to a better place like Zanesville, Ohio.

Hot women can't replace the fact that you are living in a city that has a large population of poor people in contrast to a small minority who are rich. I am not feeling living in a city where I need to know a foreign language, especially if this city is on American soil. Surrounding myself with poor Hispanics and Haitians, many of them who glamorize ghetto culture, doesn't make me feel that inclined to make Miami a city I would represent with rose colored classes-let's be real about it.

Also, I do see a values clash with myself since I am not superficial and Miami is very "wear my dick on my sleeve' kinda place. It is one thing to be poor but Miami will make you feel bad because you are poor.

I am not throwing the baby out with the bath water here. Miami has very nice women to look at, great night life, and a interesting international urban mystique that makes the city appealing despite the large amounts of economically disadvantaged people who live there. But as been confirmed by the numerous threads on the city, it is a hard nugget to crack-women wise they are tough, language wise you need to learn Spanish (less you stay in English majority areas), then creole, wages suck (high cost/low wage city), it's hot and rains all the time, insurance rates and housing prices are through the roof( $1200 1/1 place in the ghetto), a lot of fake people (genuine connections are rare), etc.

I am not trying to hate on Miami. I love visiting there when I head down to visit my people in South Florida. Nothing wrong with bigging up the girls of South Beach, but lets not forget the people in Liberty City too.

Quote: (10-24-2014 10:55 PM)Captain Ahab Wrote:  

Hot women can't replace the fact that you are living in a city that has a large population of poor people in contrast to a small minority who are rich. I am not feeling living in a city where I need to know a foreign language, especially if this city is on American soil. Surrounding myself with poor Hispanics and Haitians, many of them who glamorize ghetto culture, doesn't make me feel that inclined to make Miami a city I would represent with rose colored classes-let's be real about it.

This is still a huge exaggeration. Not everyone in Miami lives in a neighborhood like Liberty City and needs to sling crack rocks to survive. It might sound surprising, but there are actually a lot of people who live in the suburbs and work normal middle class jobs. The western and southern parts of Dade county are pretty much all suburban sprawl. I guess all the people affording the mortgages on those places must be rich.