Just read Roosh The Wall is soft article and it really makes me think....

http://www.rooshv.com/the-wall-is-softer-than-we-think

Its out of question how the scale is so tipped in women's favor nowadays. And even the alternatives will be corrupted soon enough (Asia is becoming Westernized extremely fast; can't speak for EE or Russia) Hell, 10 years ago American women were not THAT bad like today. What guarantees the rest of the world wont be like this in a few decades?

Which brings me to this point: what do we, as men, have going for us in this day and age? Disclaimer: I WOULD NEVER wish that I was a women, even if being a man means being a slave. I know none of you would trade your sex for any reason whatsoever.

Other than a longer life expectancy and a lower chance of dying, I dont see any real benefit. And tbh, wars and other stuffs that kills off men are what made us men and keep the balance of power stable anyway.

Not to find any mental masturbation, Im just trying to get a better view of the picture.

Well, what I am doing right now is making a "culture" of my own: I find my own heoreas, shows, books and so on. I try to cultivate a personallity which I fit for a young man. I do not deny todays culture, I analyze it with an cold eye and open heart. Its just a side thing on my own path.


What is your picture?

Just find something that you enjoy doing and take it as far as you possibly can until you become an expert at it.
Once you get bored find something new that peaks your interest and master that. Once you master a few different
disciplines find the intersection of them all and do that for a living.

honestly, not a lot....but that utopian pleasure that fills you up after a new conquest makes being a man completely worth it

Quote: (07-07-2014 05:38 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

Which brings me to this point: what do we, as men, have going for us in this day and age?

Don't focus on negativity. Offhand positives:

The ability to focus on our goals and achieve them with effort and discipline without having to blame everyone else for our own laziness.

The ability to build businesses, structures and organisations that endure.

The ability not to be constantly on the edge of hysteria due to our self-inflicted emotional turmoil.

The ability to think deeply on topics without having to filter them through how it relates to me, 'as a woman', first.

Quote: (07-07-2014 04:03 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Quote: (07-07-2014 05:38 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

Which brings me to this point: what do we, as men, have going for us in this day and age?

Don't focus on negativity. Offhand positives:

The ability to focus on our goals and achieve them with effort and discipline without having to blame everyone else for our own laziness.

The ability to build businesses, structures and organisations that endure.

The ability not to be constantly on the edge of hysteria due to our self-inflicted emotional turmoil.

The ability to think deeply on topics without having to filter them through how it relates to me, 'as a woman', first.

I agree with the positive mindset. Still, all of the above have been true for our forefathers, even better. Except maybe the first one cause social mobility was not very popular back in the days.

The last one you listed is particularly something only men nowadays would understand. What the hell does "as a woman" mean for the men way before us? If you tell them that a day may come when every fucking social issue isn't taken seriously if it doesn't "relate to women", a day may come when women feel free to shame men for being men while they slut it out and deal out the privileges given to them by their vaginas, those men will probably be like this:



There used to be a time when the world was made by men and women made it a fun and loving place to be in.

All is not lost for sure, but it doesnt seem to get better. It doesn't mean we are sitting here and whine forever and daydream about the old days. But for me personally a bit of nostalgia/romanticism serve as motivator, to remind us of a once-proud manly heritage

Quote: (07-07-2014 01:34 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Just find something that you enjoy doing and take it as far as you possibly can until you become an expert at it.
Once you get bored find something new that peaks your interest and master that. Once you master a few different
disciplines find the intersection of them all and do that for a living.

This is what I needed to hear today. Thank you so much for this insight.

The answer is fairly obvious: we have game. There has never been a time when women have been easier to bed by the average man. For better or worse, 99% of our forebears wifed up quickly or were, frankly, more focused on raw survival than getting their dick wet or other first world problems like 'feminism'. So, in a way, we are living in a golden age.

For people who know and understand the way the world works, have game, and generally see the world though a pragmatic lens, the world has never been a better place for men.

Feminism has encouraged promiscuity amongst women and has made it socially acceptable for women to have no-strings-attached sex. Unlike our forefathers who came before us, we do not have to give up anything in order to get laid. Eternal bachelorhood has never been so well rewarded. If you have halfway decent game, maintain your body and your hormones, you can continue to bang 20-something girls into your mid to late 40s without much of an issue. You get to get what you want (sex from a nice, young woman) and get to keep everything that's valuable to you (your time, your money, and your freedom).

With the framework of education in many countries, I would venture to guess that this is as close to a meritocracy as we've ever been. In the United States, institutions like financial aid and such have made higher education available to the middle and lower classes. If you can work hard enough, you don't need to go to university, the internet has made entrepreneurship globally a viable option to earn an income, and has produced a new generation of multi-millionaires. Wealth has never been so accessible to so many people. The formula may not be laid out before you, but try and try again and eventually you may succeed.

"But wait, From Vegas To Tokyo, if the world is so much better today than it ever was before, why are so many men failing and dropping out of productive society?"

Easy. While it has never been so easy to achieve success, failure has become much more comfortable. You can live a perfectly fine life, making $40,000 a year, living in a suburban community with your wife, who was a 6 at 18 but has hit the wall since (to be fair, as have you), and your three kids. Yeah, your wife may have gained 50lbs since you married, and never wants to have sex anymore, but you stay together for the kids. Are you miserable? Sure, but your basic needs are fulfilled. You have a roof over your head, and food on the table. Anything that would interrupt the status quo is pushed off for next year or labeled as too risky. As a result of the fact that "failure" is so comfortable, men across America are stuck in this cycle of being average. Average sucks. Don't be average. Be great.

No how do you be great? Become addicted to success. If you're working the night shift at 7-11 don't expect to wake up in a week and be the CEO. Baby steps at first, but once you get momentum, nothing will stop you. With girls, once you start to pull girls, you will try to pull hotter and hotter girls, more and more consistently. Eventually, you will get to the level where you are pulling 9's with some level of consistency. You will hone your game, be able to pick up on IOIs, and rack up notches. This all comes with work, but is attainable. If you settle with that 5 who is vying for your attention trying to lock you down, you will never get there. Settling is for average people. By going out and talking to thousands of girls and banging a bunch of them, you will get on a roll and become addicted to the success. Once you get better and better, it will be more and more fun. It's a virtuous circle that leads to you banging the hottest girls in the club. You will become more confident, and you will have a better vibe which girls will pick up on. It's a virtuous circle.

Business is the same way. Whether you're climbing the corporate ladder, or being an entrepreneur, if you are working hard and hitting your goals, you will learn to work harder and be more efficient, achieving higher results, making more money, and becoming more successful. Notice how there's one guy who you know who seems like he's been in the same position for years? Yeah, he's not going to get promoted because he has no momentum. Be the young gun who's taking names and kicking ass, skyrocketing to the top.

It has never been such a good time to be a man.

By golly, I'm shocked no one linked this:

http://xyfeminist.wordpress.com/the-male...lege-list/

Of particular note is men's privilege to eat:

"Privilege to Eat - The consumption of food (especially desirable foods like deserts, alcohol, and meat) is only socially acceptable for men. As adolescents, boys are encouraged to eat, while girls are discouraged from eating. This lack of adequate nutrition results in girl’s growth being stunted in childhood, which has led to the false belief that women are “naturally” smaller than men."

Hmm. So in that case, non-underweight women (which accounts for about 98% of them) should be as tall as men, on average. Let's test that theory.

Quote: (07-07-2014 09:25 PM)From Vegas to Tokyo Wrote:  

For people who know and understand the way the world works, have game, and generally see the world though a pragmatic lens, the world has never been a better place for men. Feminism has encouraged promiscuity amongst women and has made it socially acceptable for women to have no-strings-attached sex. Unlike our forefathers who came before us, we do not have to give up anything in order to get laid.

Yet, when a man gets tired of fucking around and wants to start a family and become a patriarch, the only women available are alpha widows in their late 20s and early 30s who had a 10-15 year long career as free-of-charge prostitutes. Yay!!! By contrast, my father married a virgin. My grandfather married a virgin. My great-grandfather married a virgin, etc.

Quote: (07-07-2014 09:25 PM)From Vegas to Tokyo Wrote:  

With the framework of education in many countries, I would venture to guess that this is as close to a meritocracy as we've ever been. In the United States, institutions like financial aid and such have made higher education available to the middle and lower classes. If you can work hard enough, you don't need to go to university, the internet has made entrepreneurship globally a viable option to earn an income, and has produced a new generation of multi-millionaires. Wealth has never been so accessible to so many people.

When people start glorifying not attending college, I get the idea that many around here are detached from reality. Or have that childish pride of the working classes...

Yes, the internet has made a new generation of millionaires, most of whom are high-IQ Harvard dropouts. Dropping out of Harvard is not the same as dropping out of a state university, especially if you went to a magnet school or a prep school before going to Harvard College.

Sure, there are some people at Google who lack a college degree. Good luck getting an interview without a college degree from a top-20 school, though. HR cunts care much more about pedigree than many think.

Easy asian girls in SEA.

Skimmed thread...

IMO this is the greatest age for MEN due to the fact that their is a MAJOR SHORTAGE of actual "fascinating men". There is never a time period where you can easily meet some of the hottest women from around the world who lack so much experience when it comes to men. Most women are used to "thirsty" men and rarely find men who have their shit together whether it be money wise, personality wise, or lifestyle wise.

I view men like wine, as they age they can become vintage or a simple common cheap bottle. It's all based on the man, his experiences and the lessons he learns on his journey. I watch certain guys who are in their 40s-50s who are simply enjoying the ease of their lifestyle. Heck even a handful of people in their 20s I see where they might be headed 10-15 years from now and it's amazing.

I personally can't even comprehend how my life will be in the coming years.

The sad thing about women is the fact that the age range of the women I'm with will remain the same. All the hotties I know now, only the awesome ones will stand out because 5 years from now new women of age will take the spotlight.

Assuming they are born in the first world:
- Fly to any location on earth
- Learn about almost any subject for free
- Have sex with as many women as he can possibly handle
- Make more money than he knows what to do with
- Have a damn good chance of living to be 85+ years old
- Take advantage of some of the millions of hot sluts
- Find a traditional woman in a foreign country
- Eat a delicious meal whenever they want
- Optimize their health and physique
- Not worry about minor health issues
- Still have most of the power due to natural male inclination to leadership (no matter what feminists do the government/upper elite will always be controlled by men)
- Male birth control is coming (heh) soon

Honestly there's a lot going for us right now. With all the bullshit that has been going on in this world, you as a man have total control over your life to do whatever the fuck you want, and that has never existed at any point in time for such a large percentage of the population.

Quote: (07-07-2014 10:57 PM)Turnaround Wrote:  

By golly, I'm shocked no one linked this:

http://xyfeminist.wordpress.com/the-male...lege-list/

Of particular note is men's privilege to eat:

"Privilege to Eat - The consumption of food (especially desirable foods like deserts, alcohol, and meat) is only socially acceptable for men. As adolescents, boys are encouraged to eat, while girls are discouraged from eating. This lack of adequate nutrition results in girl’s growth being stunted in childhood, which has led to the false belief that women are “naturally” smaller than men."

Hmm. So in that case, non-underweight women (which accounts for about 98% of them) should be as tall as men, on average. Let's test that theory.

That article has to be satirical, some of those are just so ridiculous. "Privilege to Murder"

I think the reason that the phrase "make money, fuck bitches" gains so much traction in our popular culture and even the manosphere is because that's basically what's left for us. We're hedonists chasing what makes our lives more comfortable or pleasurable. That's really all that's left in the context of this culture even when you're living the "best" life.

We have better healthcare and higher life expectancy.

It's actually easier to get laid than it is to make money, if that counts for anything. But the women available are usually of very low character. This is a winner-take-all world, zero-sum game.

I'd say there isn't much going at all for men in general, but as a man specifically if you work hard and get lucky then you can have it pretty good. Just show a bit of sympathy for the rest of the men beneath yourself if you can ever make it to the top.

Lots of doom and gloom on this forum as of late. We have lots going for us as men: easy sex, socially accepted bachelorhood, and the world at our fingertips via the internet and cheap travel. When you make women the sole focus of your pursuits things can seem dim. View them as a compliment to life instead of a central pillar.

The only power we got left is that we can get a lot of women by learning Game. But we need to keep in mind that Gaming is possible because women are allowing it implicitly. Gaming is simply reactionary to feminism. Roosh clearly explained it on his post about getting laid and wanting feminine women around. I believe that by Gaming around I'm the happiest I can be, but to think that this is the Golden Age for men is simply delusional. Our society is in extremely bad shape and it's getting worse. We can't consider a time when women are running the show to be a Golden Age

Quote: (07-11-2014 06:01 AM)Mujeriego Wrote:  

Lots of doom and gloom on this forum as of late. We have lots going for us as men: easy sex, socially accepted bachelorhood, and the world at our fingertips via the internet and cheap travel.

Travel is not cheap. Most work is not location independent. Thus the opportunity cost of not working is still very high.

The internet is indeed an amazing plus, but for most men easy sex and bachelorhood aren't that satisfying compared to building a family under your control.

Men hold all jobs that allow civilization to continue. If they quit, civilization grinds to a halt immediately.

Knowledge.

Imagine if we were the dudes who all had to figure this shit out? My life isn't as great as I want it to be (mostly because of my unwillingness to do certain things), BUT the door is fucking open when I want to step through. I would never want to trade places with the guys who had to get destroyed by divorce rapes and wonky marriages. I'm so thankful that the information and guidance is out there for someone my age.

Quote: (07-13-2014 11:15 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

Knowledge.

Imagine if we were the dudes who all had to figure this shit out? My life isn't as great as I want it to be (mostly because of my unwillingness to do certain things), BUT the door is fucking open when I want to step through. I would never want to trade places with the guys who had to get destroyed by divorce rapes and wonky marriages. I'm so thankful that the information and guidance is out there for someone my age.

This is true. The knowledge the internet brings is basically the American Enlightenment.

Quote: (07-14-2014 10:10 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

This is true. The knowledge the internet brings is basically the American Enlightenment.

It's a shame people seem to prefer to be ignorant.