Quote: (07-23-2011 02:02 PM)Ferno Wrote:  

i knew this 1 indian dude from canada (turban and everything) that really tore it the fuck up in clubs..

Damn...all I got to say is this:







Mixx

Quote: (07-23-2011 02:02 PM)Ferno Wrote:  

yeah its your looks.. traditional "game" (in terms of what style/mystery introduced) is really bullshit.. girls just have to think you're attractive and then your job is to just not fuck it up

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Almost let me be the first to say...



It's my fault.

A lot of you are getting the wrong idea about Poland, thinking it's a cakewalk. Four Spanish dudes at the club tonight... all went home empty handed. There is no sure thing here. If you want one-night stands, you still need tight game. I don't want you to think you can be a little brown, come with mediocre game, and pull like a rock star. Nope.

I need to put my praise in context.

Quote: (07-23-2011 02:02 PM)Ferno Wrote:  

yeah being tall is huge...

i'm 5'8 and blonde (from canada but polish genes) so i have more trouble here.

Why height in Poland is a greater issue than in other countries?
Most girls aren't under 5'8?

Polish girls just like tall guys around 190 cm they have easy ride, most of them just have the preference

Sorry but not to be a killjoy but I highly doubt a dude with a turban would do well in Poland. Polish people tend to be a little racist in my experience, not to say some girls won't deal with you b/c they will. I have dated a few polish girls and I found it took long to get them into bed, they can be very traditional to say the least.

"All Polish nouns have seven variations, all with different spellings. Imagine seven ways to say and spell dog, depending on the context." - for us native Slavic speakers, this is the most natural thing in the world. We always make fun of foreigners for not being able to understand the contextual case

Polish is not the worst though, if you take into account the three genders (male, female and neutral) and two forms (singular and plural), there are 42 possible combinations, but Lithuanian has 11 cases, for a total of 66 possible combinations, and Slovenian has 6 cases but also the dual, resulting in 54 possible combinations.

Quote: (07-23-2011 11:05 PM)Mr.GM Wrote:  

Quote: (07-23-2011 02:02 PM)Ferno Wrote:  

yeah being tall is huge...

i'm 5'8 and blonde (from canada but polish genes) so i have more trouble here.

Why height in Poland is a greater issue than in other countries?
Most girls aren't under 5'8?

It's not a greater issue than in other countries... in the west you have to have a good face AND be tall to fuck the really hot girls. Polish girls height? i dont know, probably average is like 5'6 or something like most countries, a bit lower cause its eastern europe, look it up on wiki if u want. The point is, its ENOUGH to be tall... ive seen guys with really plain looking faces, or receding hairline with glasses, walking around with 7-8s just because they're tall. Of course theres many shorter dudes, equally plain, sometimes even chubby looking, walking around with 7s just cause theres little competition...

Quote: (07-24-2011 09:54 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Sorry but not to be a killjoy but I highly doubt a dude with a turban would do well in Poland. Polish people tend to be a little racist in my experience, not to say some girls won't deal with you b/c they will. I have dated a few polish girls and I found it took long to get them into bed, they can be very traditional to say the least.

Polish girls in poland or in another country?

I'm not lying about this guy.. i mean, he was tall and had good alpha energy, im sure he got laid back in canada he wasnt some social reject or pua wannabe... but i would routinely see him go on the dance floor and just start dancing with legit pretty girls... im not sure how many of them he fucked but if i would go up to the same chicks they would run off or backturn me...

as for racist? the guys are for sure, 100%, but i have 2 arab friends (not the best looking guys, not taller than me even) who fuck tons of girls. They don't even approach like I do (i used to just go up to a lot of sets without approach invitations, b4 i got rejected too many times and lost the rest of my confidence), they wait for IOIs (chicks looking at them, checking them out) and then open them... really they do fucked up shit like fuck a mom and her daughter back and one of the guys place while the underage younger sister just waits in the living room (rofl)... or usually their modus operandi is for the day2 they (individually) just invite them over for to their place to "watch a movie" (on a laptop, in english lol) and just fuck them there. its a joke... the best part is that they're so respectful of muslim girls which implies that polish chicks are just sluts for them...(justifying it by saying that if she wears a shirt with some cleavage then shes only looking for one thing) anyway, any decent looking girl isnt going back to my place on a day2 for sure, they're not stupid

Quote: (07-23-2011 10:45 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Almost let me be the first to say...



It's my fault.

A lot of you are getting the wrong idea about Poland, thinking it's a cakewalk. Four Spanish dudes at the club tonight... all went home empty handed. There is no sure thing here. If you want one-night stands, you still need tight game. I don't want you to think you can be a little brown, come with mediocre game, and pull like a rock star. Nope.

I need to put my praise in context.

yeah of course its not like even ugly brown/fobby looking guys are gonna be pulling pulling hard or something but if you're a decent looking one its a goldmine - compared to back home thats for sure..

the problem these latino guys have is they really feel out of their element so even if they look like they're having fun and have high energy, they tend to stick to their own group, talking spanish, talking to their ugly spanish girls (fucking hell spanish girls are so overrated.. short and hairy and attitude like holy fuck).... and even though the polish chicks are checking them out they wont hit on them until the get totally shit hammered and then try to talk to them/dance with them (their english is even worse than polish peoples)... if they were smart about it they would go in wing pairs and not get so fucked ... and if the one night stand isnt happening then don't plow it, the # close is guaranteed to come through so get a day2 , but whatever, if thats how they wanna party then its up to them

Quote: (07-24-2011 04:51 PM)Ferno Wrote:  

the problem these latino guys have is they really feel out of their element so even if they look like they're having fun and have high energy, they tend to stick to their own group, talking spanish, talking to their ugly spanish girls (fucking hell spanish girls are so overrated.. short and hairy and attitude like holy fuck).... and even though the polish chicks are checking them out they wont hit on them until the get totally shit hammered and then try to talk to them/dance with them (their english is even worse than polish peoples)... if they were smart about it they would go in wing pairs and not get so fucked ... and if the one night stand isnt happening then don't plow it, the # close is guaranteed to come through so get a day2 , but whatever, if thats how they wanna party then its up to them

As a latin man, whose seen this scenario a billion times, I agree with Ferno.

Latinos are not naturally social guys with people they do not know. A perfect example of that would be ANY latino here going to any latin country and seeing how nobody in a club will want to introduce themselves to you. Colombia is a prime example. I could be standing at a club in Cali, and those social groups that go out purposely close out anyone else breaking their group or meeting them.

** Correction. Ironically, the latinos that are very social are the (middle-class/lower class) Puerto Rican cats. Their game is weak when dealing with other girls that are not Puerto Rican, but these mofos LOVE making new friends, even with other guys. I got to give them that. I remember just saying wassup to a few cats in PR, and within minutes these guys were treating me as part of their click and introducing me to their girls making me feel welcome.

Latin men are afraid to do what I am doing right now: going off the beaten path to a place like North Dakota where there are no other latinos (or very few), and kicking it to girls to see what happens.

The first question I am asked by my spanish friends is "Are there other latinos there?", and when I tell them no, they FREAK OUT as if I was in some sort of prison serving a life sentence. Most flat out tell me I am crazy and they would never do it.

Another thing that Latino men do is get shit-faced in clubs before approaching a hot girl.

I've said it before, 90% of women compliment me on approaching with a bottle of water in my hand and having pure confidence to approach, not alcohol confidence. Whenever a girl asks why I am not drinking, I make fun of it and say something to escalate the sexual vibe.

Latino men are notorious for being cocky when they are amongst their own, and very few, like me, dare to venture into the unknown and be alpha in that group. I'll be cocky, playful and funny amongst any race!

I can see why they would go home alone in Poland, hell, they would go home alone in Slovenia, and I had a blast down there.

Finally, the last girls I want to talk to whenever I am in a foreign country is a latin girl. Why? I've fucked hundreds of latinas already!

Mixx

Quote: (07-24-2011 04:51 PM)Ferno Wrote:  

they tend to stick to their own group, talking spanish, talking to their ugly spanish girls (fucking hell spanish girls are so overrated.. short and hairy and attitude like holy fuck).... and even though the polish chicks are checking them out they wont hit on them until the get totally shit hammered and then try to talk to them/dance with them (their english is even worse than polish peoples)... if they were smart about it they would go in wing pairs and not get so fucked ... and if the one night stand isnt happening then don't plow it, the # close is guaranteed to come through so get a day2 , but whatever, if thats how they wanna party then its up to them

It's like you were there with me on Saturday night!

Spanish guys are very content getting kisses, but they don't have that killer instinct to close. They remind of Brazilian guys, where they rather brag about kissing 3 girls in a night than banging one.

Quote: (07-24-2011 06:31 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Spanish guys are very content getting kisses, but they don't have that killer instinct to close.

You can talk about the Brazilians all you want, but you better recognize man!

Fuck no I'm not content with a fucking kiss! Girls most of the time are shocked when they don't even realize within minutes my hand is already on her thigh, working my way up her skirt.


Mixx

This is how I imagine the conversation went down last night.

Spanish guy 1: "Le doy un beso a la chica alla!"
Spanish guy 2: "Que chevere! Donde esta ahora?"
Spanish guy 1: "No se. Quiero concocer otras chicas."
Spanish guy 2: "Buena idea. Hay muchas chicas aqui esta noche."
Spanish guy 1: "Si si. Espera... las chicas van a venir a nos."

Three hour later..

Spanish guy 1: "Las chicas aqui no quieran hacer sexo."
Spanish guy 2: "Si... perras estupidas!"
Spanish guy 1: "Vamos a casa. Ayer recibi porn muy bueno."
Spanish guy 2: "Vamos a jerk off."

Quote: (07-24-2011 07:10 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Spanish guy 1: "Vamos a casa. Ayer recibi porn muy bueno."
Spanish guy 2: "Vamos a jerk off."

Laughed my ass off... hahaha! I can actually imagine that dialog...

Quote: (07-24-2011 07:10 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

This is how I imagine the conversation went down last night.

Spanish guy 1: "Le doy un beso a la chica alla!"
Spanish guy 2: "Que chevere! Donde esta ahora?"
Spanish guy 1: "No se. Quiero concocer otras chicas."
Spanish guy 2: "Buena idea. Hay muchas chicas aqui esta noche."
Spanish guy 1: "Si si. Espera... las chicas van a venir a nos."

Three hour later..

Spanish guy 1: "Las chicas aqui no quieran hacer sexo."
Spanish guy 2: "Si... perras estupidas!"
Spanish guy 1: "Vamos a casa. Ayer recibi porn muy bueno."
Spanish guy 2: "Vamos a jerk off."

I just feel 100x better about my trip to Poland. If that dialogue is anywhere near a representation of my Spanish competition, I will be getting Polish punani on a daily basis!


Mixx

Quote: (07-24-2011 05:45 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Latinos are not naturally social guys with people they do not know. A perfect example of that would be ANY latino here going to any latin country and seeing how nobody in a club will want to introduce themselves to you.

This is very Russian too.

Quote: (07-24-2011 08:10 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

Quote: (07-24-2011 05:45 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Latinos are not naturally social guys with people they do not know. A perfect example of that would be ANY latino here going to any latin country and seeing how nobody in a club will want to introduce themselves to you.

This is very Russian too.

Yes, because these are societies largely based on "power groups' rather than the "individual" , like in the west/anglo culture.
In those places its a good call to make male friends , after that your ride will be easier.

Quote: (07-23-2011 04:57 AM)Magic Wrote:  

I know that lots of girls sleep around with black guys on Vacation, Bulgaria cost is where for exemple EE girls and knot much competition.

For real? No black guys in Bulgaria, you know... Well, there are some (very few) on vacation or business, but otherwise the blackest you see is gypsy.

To Roosh: I wonder how long before your face become ubiquitous there? Before girls start telling their friends who you approach "I know this guy, he pumped-and-dumped my friend last month". I mean, you probably stand out quite a bit from the local population.

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To Roosh: I wonder how long before your face become ubiquitous there? Before girls start telling their friends who you approach "I know this guy, he pumped-and-dumped my friend last month". I mean, you probably stand out quite a bit from the local population.

Quite. How the hell do manage to not get recognised for being the player that you are? I have actually seen the same girls in different clubs on a number of occasions when I visit smaller cities. THats why I usually skip as soon as the deed is done so to speak. Do you not just start feeling like THAT guy after a while. Does the desire to move on and find pastures new not tempt you at all? Just asking.

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How the hell do manage to not get recognised for being the player that you are?

The city has over 500,000 people. I have a rep among the bar staff of places I go, but it's not I'm making the paper.

Quote: (07-25-2011 03:26 PM)Richie Wrote:  

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To Roosh: I wonder how long before your face become ubiquitous there? Before girls start telling their friends who you approach "I know this guy, he pumped-and-dumped my friend last month". I mean, you probably stand out quite a bit from the local population.

Quite. How the hell do manage to not get recognised for being the player that you are? I have actually seen the same girls in different clubs on a number of occasions when I visit smaller cities. THats why I usually skip as soon as the deed is done so to speak. Do you not just start feeling like THAT guy after a while. Does the desire to move on and find pastures new not tempt you at all? Just asking.

i know wroclaw has about 700,000 people.. sure its not new york but its no Bumfuck, Ireland either.. you probably will run into the same people every once in a while especially if u go to the same clubs a lot (but it doesn't happen THAT often and I used to go to bezesennosc every week).. even if you do, its dark, people are drunk, and who cares if someone recognizes you? its not like all girls are part of some big networked society and are all talking to each other

worse is if you're going steady with a girl and her freinds (that you've met b4) see u working another chick at the club, but that can happen in any city and whether your black/white/brown they're gonna recognize you easy regardless

The population of London is 8,000,000. I still manage to bump into girls I have banged. I have to constantly find new places were I can find fresh meat where I am not recognised. Don't mean to piss on your fire but in a city like Poznan It's only a matter of time before your lose your anonymity. Either that or settle down with dare I say... one girl.

Hey Roosh, I am going to be in Krakow from mid-September until July for a student exchange program. I definitely plan to run some game. I am from Canada but I speak Polish (Polish parents). I have been to Krakow before but I have not gamed there. I suspect being bilingual in English/Polish will help alot in terms of game?

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I still manage to bump into girls I have banged.

So why is that a problem? Every city I've lived I ran into girls I banged. Unless you raped them, I don't understand why you need to remain "anonymous". Sounds like you're overly paranoid.

Cloud: I don't know to be honest.