Whete did u find this pic? This is a private event, maybe a wedding, look at the size of the room, to big for an innercity club, and look at the makeshift windows. No chance to find a concentration like this in a regular place in jkk.

That's club Emprica in JKT. It's a massive club, they usually have a ton of events going on there. https://www.facebook.com/empiricajakarta
As I stated in Brodiaga's thread about Emprica, tons of hot chicks but they were all rolling in big groups, layout of the club is massive did not have a intimate vibe at all.

You're right. Just texting with one of my gfs, she says its very new, and that it is full of chinese, and that there are no bules so far. Sounds like a challenge that needs to be faced asap, will check it out when back in town next month and report back. How come you did not like it? did you find quality higher than at x2?

I was rolling solo and still sober I guess. I liked the smaller clubs in Kemang a lot better. My main stomping ground in Jakarta is Immigrant, it was heart breaking to find out the place was shutdown for renovations. X2 I don't know why, I always struck out there. Talent at X2 was nothing compared to Empirica, if you can pull a chick there next month Chris good on you.

Thanks for the datasheet Soma!

Jakarta is very high up on my list of potential places to go for a short bang trip. Those high-end Indonesian girls look right up my alley.

I was just wondering, what is the extent of English penetration in Jakarta? Do the locals speak much English? How about the girls at clubs?

Thanks in advance.

Hi,

I will be there the 30th around 9am if some of you will be around Jakarta lemme know i will try x2 for the first night i think

Cheers

Ryan

Quote: (04-08-2014 09:22 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

Indonesia has dozens, if not hundreds of ethnic groups, so I'm pretty sure she's mixed. She would look better, though, if she didn't make a stupid face. I like the one on the left. She looks very classy.

Why do Asian girls make the most unattractive faces intentionally? jesus. I sometimes don't want to even meet these girls even if they are are cute. They scrunch their faces in their online profiles and just do stupid shit.

Quote: (04-18-2014 02:16 PM)Tenerife Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2014 09:22 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

Indonesia has dozens, if not hundreds of ethnic groups, so I'm pretty sure she's mixed. She would look better, though, if she didn't make a stupid face. I like the one on the left. She looks very classy.

Why do Asian girls make the most unattractive faces intentionally? jesus. I sometimes don't want to even meet these girls even if they are are cute. They scrunch their faces in their online profiles and just do stupid shit.

Ignoring the latent racism in that statement and taking it at face value, I think a lot of Asian girls make "ugly faces" because they think it's cute in mild doses to be weird and quirky. A lot of the celebs in east Asia are now doing their version of the manic pixie dream girl thing and it might have an influence on these girls.

Maybe it's because I'm Asian but I find it cute when cute girls make ugly faces... Also when they make cute faces. Unfortunately for uglies, all that shit: attempts to be cute, naturally being ugly, etc is inherently repugnant to me.

Quote: (04-18-2014 07:03 AM)Biologist Wrote:  

Thanks for the datasheet Soma!

Jakarta is very high up on my list of potential places to go for a short bang trip. Those high-end Indonesian girls look right up my alley.

I was just wondering, what is the extent of English penetration in Jakarta? Do the locals speak much English? How about the girls at clubs?

Thanks in advance.

Where there's bule penetration, there's also English penetration. Bule-chasing sluts speak good or even excellent English At clubs where girls look for bule dick, pretty much everybody speaks English.

On a more serious note, I asked one of the girls from my last trip why so many people in Jakarta speak good English. She told me that many upper-middle class and upper class kids go to private schools which do a very good job at teaching English. As one of the final high school exams, private school students have to take TOEFL and get a pretty high score.

Quote: (04-18-2014 05:25 PM)booshala Wrote:  

Quote: (04-18-2014 02:16 PM)Tenerife Wrote:  

Quote: (04-08-2014 09:22 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

Indonesia has dozens, if not hundreds of ethnic groups, so I'm pretty sure she's mixed. She would look better, though, if she didn't make a stupid face. I like the one on the left. She looks very classy.

Why do Asian girls make the most unattractive faces intentionally? jesus. I sometimes don't want to even meet these girls even if they are are cute. They scrunch their faces in their online profiles and just do stupid shit.

Ignoring the latent racism in that statement and taking it at face value, I think a lot of Asian girls make "ugly faces" because they think it's cute in mild doses to be weird and quirky. A lot of the celebs in east Asia are now doing their version of the manic pixie dream girl thing and it might have an influence on these girls.

Maybe it's because I'm Asian but I find it cute when cute girls make ugly faces... Also when they make cute faces. Unfortunately for uglies, all that shit: attempts to be cute, naturally being ugly, etc is inherently repugnant to me.

And thanks for answering a rhetorical question.

^Lol. How was his post racist? It seems some minority guys here have a massive racial complex. Funny stuff.

Quote: (04-18-2014 11:51 PM)SpecialEd Wrote:  

^Lol. How was his post racist? It seems some minority guys here have a massive racial complex. Funny stuff.

Completely agree. I have no idea how his statement could be seen as even remotely offensive.

Quote: (04-18-2014 06:21 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

Quote: (04-18-2014 07:03 AM)Biologist Wrote:  

Thanks for the datasheet Soma!

Jakarta is very high up on my list of potential places to go for a short bang trip. Those high-end Indonesian girls look right up my alley.

I was just wondering, what is the extent of English penetration in Jakarta? Do the locals speak much English? How about the girls at clubs?

Thanks in advance.

Where there's bule penetration, there's also English penetration. Bule-chasing sluts speak good or even excellent English At clubs where girls look for bule dick, pretty much everybody speaks English.

The downside to this is that the better the english the more chances are she's had dozens if not hundreds of rides on the tourist cock carousel.

Quote: (04-19-2014 12:01 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

Quote: (04-18-2014 06:21 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

Quote: (04-18-2014 07:03 AM)Biologist Wrote:  

Thanks for the datasheet Soma!

Jakarta is very high up on my list of potential places to go for a short bang trip. Those high-end Indonesian girls look right up my alley.

I was just wondering, what is the extent of English penetration in Jakarta? Do the locals speak much English? How about the girls at clubs?

Thanks in advance.

Where there's bule penetration, there's also English penetration. Bule-chasing sluts speak good or even excellent English At clubs where girls look for bule dick, pretty much everybody speaks English.

The downside to this is that the better the english the more chances are she's had dozens if not hundreds of rides on the tourist cock carousel.

That statement logically does NOT sound right - b/c wouldn't this depend upon whether these good english speaking girls are exposed to English speaking foreigner men. If she learned her english in school and by hanging out with elites within her country, she may NOT have been meeting very many foreign men. And, ratio of foreign men to Jakarta women is NOT very high, or is my understanding incorrect? Are you speaking from experience Chinito Loco...? Your assertion , just sounds strange to me.

Quote: (04-19-2014 03:48 AM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

That statement logically does NOT sound right - b/c wouldn't this depend upon whether these good english speaking girls are exposed to English speaking foreigner men. If she learned her english in school and by hanging out with elites within her country, she may NOT have been meeting very many foreign men. And, ratio of foreign men to Jakarta women is NOT very high, or is my understanding incorrect? Are you speaking from experience Chinito Loco...? Your assertion , just sounds strange to me.

Long story short is that these social circles tend to be much smaller than they appear. This is especially true if you're hanging out with people that like to party and have a decent amount of money in what is basically a third world country. People in these "money" places know each other pretty well.

My thing (whether it's in the Philippines, Thailand, or Indonesia) has always been to hang out with well heeled westernized local friends who know the scene well. The girls who have money and like to party tend to do it a lot and much more than they will let on due to face reasons etc.. I have experience with many girls with money who aren't "whores" per se but juggle boyfriends as well because they enjoy a good time and have the freedom to do so. With the fluent english comes a degree of westernization but just not total westernization into bitchy feminist territory.

Fluent English and hanging out in the club scene goes hand in hand with this lifestyle. If she's even slightly hot it's likely she has a decent amount of attention and experience anyways even if the ratios are way off in a place like Jakarta. This is also true in Manila or Bangkok.

Quote: (04-19-2014 04:32 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

Quote: (04-19-2014 03:48 AM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

That statement logically does NOT sound right - b/c wouldn't this depend upon whether these good english speaking girls are exposed to English speaking foreigner men. If she learned her english in school and by hanging out with elites within her country, she may NOT have been meeting very many foreign men. And, ratio of foreign men to Jakarta women is NOT very high, or is my understanding incorrect? Are you speaking from experience Chinito Loco...? Your assertion , just sounds strange to me.

Long story short is that these social circles tend to be much smaller than they appear. This is especially true if you're hanging out with people that like to party and have a decent amount of money in what is basically a third world country. People in these "money" places know each other pretty well.

My thing (whether it's in the Philippines, Thailand, or Indonesia) has always been to hang out with well heeled westernized local friends who know the scene well. The girls who have money and like to party tend to do it a lot and much more than they will let on due to face reasons etc.. I have experience with many girls with money who aren't "whores" per se but juggle boyfriends as well because they enjoy a good time and have the freedom to do so. With the fluent english comes a degree of westernization but just not total westernization into bitchy feminist territory.

Fluent English and hanging out in the club scene goes hand in hand with this lifestyle. If she's even slightly hot it's likely she has a decent amount of attention and experience anyways even if the ratios are way off in a place like Jakarta. This is also true in Manila or Bangkok.

It seems that you have changed the variables a little bit, and added "hanging out in the club scene." I have little doubt that girls who hang out in the club scene are probably more sexually active than girls who are NOT hanging out in the club scene, yet my point remains that the mere fact that an asian girl in any of those destinations who happens to speak English well would NOT necessarily automatically cause her to have ridden the cock carousel anymore than some girl who barely speaks english.

In other words, I would think that we need more information about the girl - for example, her life style and where and how she learned english to determine how likely that she has been sexually active or how likely she may lie about her past sexual activity (if it matters).

Accordingly, if a guy is worried about girls riding the cock carousel too much, there are probably better ways to screen those kinds of girls out, if a guy thinks that is an issue, besides jumping to conclusions about them being sexually active merely based on that fact that she may speak very good English.

Quote: (04-19-2014 05:42 AM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

It seems that you have changed the variables a little bit, and added "hanging out in the club scene." I have little doubt that girls who hang out in the club scene are probably more sexually active than girls who are NOT hanging out in the club scene, yet my point remains that the mere fact that an asian girl in any of those destinations who happens to speak English well would NOT necessarily automatically cause her to have ridden the cock carousel anymore than some girl who barely speaks english.

Sure, but my original reply was in response to someone talking about going to places where bule chasing girls hang out in abundance ie. the club scene. I don't think I was changing the variables as you said. If you are meeting them at some other social function then that may be a different story. But like I said before when it comes to girls with money in the third world it's a small world overall. The ones who have money, speak fluent english, like to party, and chase foreign dick tend to do it a lot. At least that's been my experience with years of living in SEA.

Quote: (04-19-2014 05:56 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

Quote: (04-19-2014 05:42 AM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

It seems that you have changed the variables a little bit, and added "hanging out in the club scene." I have little doubt that girls who hang out in the club scene are probably more sexually active than girls who are NOT hanging out in the club scene, yet my point remains that the mere fact that an asian girl in any of those destinations who happens to speak English well would NOT necessarily automatically cause her to have ridden the cock carousel anymore than some girl who barely speaks english.

Sure, but my original reply was in response to someone talking about going to places where bule chasing girls hang out in abundance ie. the club scene. I don't think I was changing the variables as you said. If you are meeting them at some other social function then that may be a different story. But like I said before when it comes to girls with money in the third world it's a small world overall. The ones who have money, speak fluent english, like to party, and chase foreign dick tend to do it a lot. At least that's been my experience with years of living in SEA.

O.k. fair enough.. especially if we are referring to girls in the club scene. Personally, I am NOT much of a club scene kind of guy.. except to the extent that I like to dance salsa.. Yet, i understand that the kinds of girls met are going to vary from club to club, so in that respect, there may be a correlation with good english speaking in the club scene and how much that girl has gone around the block.

Quote: (04-19-2014 06:11 AM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

Quote: (04-19-2014 05:56 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

Quote: (04-19-2014 05:42 AM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

It seems that you have changed the variables a little bit, and added "hanging out in the club scene." I have little doubt that girls who hang out in the club scene are probably more sexually active than girls who are NOT hanging out in the club scene, yet my point remains that the mere fact that an asian girl in any of those destinations who happens to speak English well would NOT necessarily automatically cause her to have ridden the cock carousel anymore than some girl who barely speaks english.

Sure, but my original reply was in response to someone talking about going to places where bule chasing girls hang out in abundance ie. the club scene. I don't think I was changing the variables as you said. If you are meeting them at some other social function then that may be a different story. But like I said before when it comes to girls with money in the third world it's a small world overall. The ones who have money, speak fluent english, like to party, and chase foreign dick tend to do it a lot. At least that's been my experience with years of living in SEA.

O.k. fair enough.. especially if we are referring to girls in the club scene. Personally, I am NOT much of a club scene kind of guy.. except to the extent that I like to dance salsa.. Yet, i understand that the kinds of girls met are going to vary from club to club, so in that respect, there may be a correlation with good english speaking in the club scene and how much that girl has gone around the block.

I feel its worth mentioning that the lower class girls in jakarta give you IOIs but there parents will have serious issues with them dating a bule its hard to close and there english is not good.

If want to see this walk through/ shop in Thamrin City it is a flee market type place and the young girls working the stands will eye fuck you.

i dont agree, why would the parents have an issue? the big issue is the language barrier. into culture is pretty open.

Quote: (05-04-2014 08:42 AM)ChrisGambi Wrote:  

i dont agree, why would the parents have an issue? the big issue is the language barrier. into culture is pretty open.

Good girls who live with their parents are under curfew. Reminds me of a Russian joke:

-Why does a good girl have to be in bed by 9?
-Because she has to be home by 11.

Quote: (05-04-2014 09:34 AM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

Good girls who live with their parents are under curfew. Reminds me of a Russian joke:

-Why does a good girl have to be in bed by 9?
-Because she has to be home by 11.

The parents would have an issue because of religion. Indonesia is very much a third world, uneducated place. In that sort of climate religion and superstition take off. Women will smile, giggle, chat with you, but beyond that it *can* be difficult to go further (woman specific). For some women you're a novelty, but not a serious relationship prospect.

A couple examples, basically our whole shop would shut down Friday at 1130 for 2 hours so people can go to mosque. It was me, the one Christian guy, and a non-religious, but raised Muslim girl who stuck around the shop. I made some inroads with her, but after some talk, she said she was basically 'expected' to marry a Muslim. This is a country that doesn't recognize Atheism. Another girl who I banged got to talking, and she basically said she had to marry a Muslim, she would date and sleep with non-muslims, but that if her bf didn't convert before marriage, they couldn't be together. I had a boss from the states who married a local girl. He had to convert to appease the family. He doesn't take it seriously at all, but on paper he's Muslim which is often all they care about. Even the non-muslims are super into religion. Kind of like Catholicism in the Philippines.

Shit... now every hillbilly knows about Jakarta...