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06-23-2011, 01:58 PM
@G - I guess the response would be two parts 1) More smokin chicks per capita then possibly anywhere else, and 2) the average guy could do better there because he is different then the rest of the locals. I've never been there before but I would venture to say cleaning up in a place like Riga would be great, and a little easier to do then somewhere like LA or Miami for the American who isnt an A list celebrity or athlete. But keep in mind I've never been.
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06-23-2011, 03:11 PM
but the man shortage isnt going to be solved by tourists on a 3 day vacation and the girls know that. if you lived there you would do well but those girls looking for a husband aren't going to be banging the guy there for 3 days.
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06-23-2011, 06:38 PM
Quote: (06-23-2011 03:39 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:
Quote: (06-23-2011 03:11 PM)Brian Wrote:
but the man shortage isnt going to be solved by tourists on a 3 day vacation and the girls know that. if you lived there you would do well but those girls looking for a husband aren't going to be banging the guy there for 3 days.
Then you lie and say you're going to be there longer. Even if she knows you're staying in a hotel, tell her your job has booked it for you on a housing allowance for a month, which gives you time to locate a permenant dwelling.
You can do this but you better have your story straight. You will get the questioned to the point you feel like you are being interrogated.
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06-23-2011, 07:01 PM
Quote: (06-23-2011 06:38 PM)Brian Wrote:
Quote: (06-23-2011 03:39 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:
Quote: (06-23-2011 03:11 PM)Brian Wrote:
but the man shortage isnt going to be solved by tourists on a 3 day vacation and the girls know that. if you lived there you would do well but those girls looking for a husband aren't going to be banging the guy there for 3 days.
Then you lie and say you're going to be there longer. Even if she knows you're staying in a hotel, tell her your job has booked it for you on a housing allowance for a month, which gives you time to locate a permenant dwelling.
You can do this but you better have your story straight. You will get the questioned to the point you feel like you are being interrogated.
It seems that this storyline works more if you are rolling solo. But how safe is to roll dolo in Riga and other EE spots if you are not the Big & Strong type? Don't wanna get Karate Chopped by Russian thughs (i.e G Manisfesto)
Chicks need to be on rotation like a Netflix queue
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06-23-2011, 10:01 PM
i've never been to Riga specifically, but in all of my EE experiences if you mind your business they mind theirs.
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06-26-2011, 06:36 AM
Amen to this discussion guys.
I've been wondering the same thing for quite a while but have never felt comfortable saying something. But I get the same exact feeling, especially the more I visit some of these places. I'm sure guys are getting laid, but sometimes it just makes no sense how it's happening once your boots land on the ground there. Won't name names, but some seem to be more guilty than others. It seems in many of these places, there are multiple ways guys are "killing it."
1) Go to prostitutes or shore the shitty, ugly prostitutes for free.
2) Go to the shitty tourist bars, and pick up a sloppy 5 or 6 who is excited to practice her English. Dating sites and/or Couchsurfing work this way too. (Full disclosure: I've done this a number of times for easy flags, but I have never bragged about it and would never refer to this as "killing it.")
3) Go to the high end clubs where the girls are 50% hotter than the girls anywhere in the US and suffer through 15-20 rejections just to get with one really hot girl.
#1 is doable anywhere and is not only easy, it's kind of sad and pathetic. #2 requires game at least, but seriously, why even travel? You can find foreign girls in normal bars in most big US cities who are just as easy. #3 is where the skill and effort is. It's also just about impossible to do on a three-day trip. You need 1-2 weeks MINIMUM if you're going to bang the hottest girls a city has to offer (which in EE, is scorching hot). To "kill it" in any of these places, you'd need a month or two probably.
As for the whole saying, "I'm here on business," even though you're there for two days. Yeah, good luck with that. What I've noticed about EE girls is that most of them expect 1-2 dates before they sleep with you. Almost all of my lays in Europe have happened this way. Maybe I could be gaming them better, but I think many of these girls, if they hear, "I'm in town for three months," their first thought isn't going to be, "Oh cool, I can fuck him now," it's going to be, "Oh, my new American boyfriend, let's go on some dates this week!"
The more I travel around, the more I realize that if you truly want to tap into the quality anywhere, you need minimum two weeks and preferably a month or more. I'm finding it harder and harder to take any guy seriously who pops through a town for 2-3 days and says he "killed it" there, unless he speaks the local language, or unless that town is in the 3rd world... in which case, anybody who's white could kill it there too, and it's kind of pointless to talk about.
Granted, sometimes people just get lucky. I got laid twice in my first week in BsAs off cold approach and had no idea the place was so hard until I went back a year later. But if you travel enough, you can start to tell when you're getting lucky and when your hard work is paying off.
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06-26-2011, 09:51 AM
This is true... and it's good to catch me on my assumptions, so thanks. By EE, my experience thus far is Ukraine, Hungary and non-touristy Prague. Prague, ONS seemed easier and more implicit. Hungary less so, and Ukraine much less so. I think the degree of language barrier does play some kind of role. Although I'm still not sure exactly how or what that role is. I haven't been to Poland yet, so I can't comment. I personally don't like lying to girls about living somewhere when I'm just passing through for a week either, so I can't comment if that actually works or not. I just know that the places that I have lived, on average more girls become interested in me because they see me as viable, but the process gets dragged out. When I'm just passing through, fewer see me as an option but the ones who do seem to more readily go home with me. Whether that's me or them (or both), not sure yet.
I can say with confidence though, that you're not going to pull high quality in Odessa consistently without speaking Russian or spending time (2+ weeks) here to get socially connected. The language barrier may be the highest I've ever seen (5% English, maybe?) and the dating culture is more traditional than that of other European countries. Hungary seems similar but to a lesser extent.
The problem with cross-referencing a lof of this info though is that: 1) different guys have different standards of quality, for some guys a regular girl in a tourist bar is sexy and a girl who looks like a model in a club is a skank; and 2) most guys aren't able to be objective about their own game and about what's working and what isn't and what's just blind luck. You catching me on a some of my assumptions above is a perfect example. We all do it, but some to far greater degrees than others.
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06-26-2011, 10:06 AM
Everyone talks about the sex tourism / hooker scene in Brazil and particularly Rio and I barely even noticed it. Was approached by 2 hookers in one of the out door bars down at Copacobana and that was the extent of it, didn't come across any others.
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06-26-2011, 12:06 PM
Well, the difference in Odessa is that the 9's are fucking everywhere... The 8+ girls are almost the majority in clubs here...
But it comes back to different guys want different things. Some guys are happy sorting through slop in a third world country. Others only want girls that you'd see on the cover of Victoria's Secret. Unfortunately, you can almost never get a sense of their desires through their posts. A guy wanting easy lays would hate Ukraine. A guy wanting to work for high quality would love it here. Shrug.
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06-26-2011, 05:26 PM
Sirob: This is in Poznan and Gdansk. I start indirect but go quickly direct when I sense she's interested, so technically I don't get rejected from it. Either I get rejected early or things progress.
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06-27-2011, 05:51 AM
It's true... for instance in the US, I only see maybe 1-2 girls who are 8+ in a weekend. Here I'll see 15-20 in one night. So in that sense, yeah, I imagine in a month here, you'd be able to hook up with more 8+'s than back home. It just requires approaching and getting shot down a lot... which I know some guys aren't into.
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06-27-2011, 08:31 AM
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Here's an example of a girl in Tallinn I could have banged. She is a 7 in my book, least by U.S. standards. There she was average at best. It took at least two weeks for her and 2 others of the same caliber to warm up. I was targeting the cream of the crop, which led to my demise.
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06-27-2011, 11:09 AM
Quote: (06-27-2011 08:56 AM)MiXX Wrote:
Dang yo!! It took 2 weeks to warm an average girl
Like that up?
Shit, I'm getting much better looking girl in Minneappolis, Ohio and North Dakota Even SARASOTA, Fl in HALF the time!!
This is why I am so hesitant about traveling to Tallin.
Mixx
I'm a natural at infiltrating social circles. Travel enough solo and it becomes easy. I was hanging w/ heavy playas, the top pop-star, a soldier, and wealthy businessmen. Girls were amazed who I was seen w/ around old town. Even w/ that amount of social proofing the chicas weren't putting out. I got big points from being American, just knowing that Estonia existed, and being in the "warrior" class.
Like Napoleon and Stalin, the winter drove me out. Daygame was non-existent and local girls were running from door to door. The tides were changing, but I was putting 12 hr. days socializing. Staying one more month and renting an apartment would have paid off.