I believe a similar sentiment has already been expressed.

Outnumbered or not, you make them pay the price. If running is not an option, then someone is: going to the hospital, getting fucked up, etc.

Taking out the leader or even breaking his nose, could have resulted in a different scenario.

Unfortunately I've seen too many videos of these hood niggas jumping people that they perceive as weak. And all too often the victim(usually white) doesn't even make an attempt to defend themself. Sometimes I'd love to drop these muthafuckas off in Russia and let them try this game on some gopniks.

I don't think any of this has to do with being blue pill or red pill. It's about men in this country just being way too soft. Every man needs to hit the gym, be in shape, and take up some boxing, some Muay Thai or Krav. Part of being a man is knowing how to hold your own if someone is fucking with you. Obviously within reason of course, don't fight a dude with a gun.

None of the men in this video could really fight. They were just using their numbers to have the advantage. If you ever are in a situation where you have more than one attacker, and it's obvious they aren't going to let you escape peacefully, what you have to do is a technique called stacking. If you have two opponents, it's easily doable, 3 it gets tough, 4 it might be impossible but it's the best chance you've got if the alternative is getting your face stomped into the concrete. Sometimes you just can't run away because they'll chase you and tackle you to the ground regardless.

They explain and demonstrate in this video. Btw, this is the exact classroom I trained in in L.A.

It looked to me like the two white guys were intoxicated. It's hard to fight well if you're not sober.

Quote: (02-02-2014 02:02 PM)dog24 Wrote:  

I meant i dont think this kind of stuff only happens when african american males see beta white chodes. It happens when a group of guys no matter what race go around town looking for trouble with weaker groups.

Is that so? Do you have hundreds of YouTube videos supporting your assertion that this isn't a race thing?

Is it just a coincidence that the vast majority (as in over 90%) of such World Star style videos involve black-on-white or black-on-Asian violence?

Not many guys can defend themselves in that situation, even if you are stronger it is the guys you cannot see or coming from your blind side that are the problem.
I was just reading about this on dangerandplay site, he recommends always trying to avoid fights. He claims to have been in over a 100, his first fight he knocked the guy out but got sucker punched and was knocked out.
As for fighting in Mexico, you are crazy as that could have ended badly. Suppose they regrouped and came back for you later. I don't advise fighting in a foreign country no matter how tough you think you are.

The biggest white guy was pretty drunk to me. I felt bad for the white guys as they were just trying to make it through it and reacting, they were playing along with the 'hands up' bad boxing style that the lead black guy was putting out. Looks like they also got their phone or wallets taken.

Even if someone doesn't know how to fight, realizing that your life could be at stake and there are no 'rules' is important. Biting someone's finger, nose or face will throw anyone for a loop.

Quote: (02-02-2014 05:39 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Not many guys can defend themselves in that situation, even if you are stronger it is the guys you cannot see or coming from your blind side that are the problem.

"Strike the shepherd and the sheep will scatter."

Blast the guy talking shit, really fuck him up with a vengeance, and the others will be stunned.

Walk back and keep your eyes on them as they remain in shock and can't sneak up on you.

Get about 1/2 block away and then run like the wind.

Quote: (02-02-2014 06:06 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Quote: (02-02-2014 05:39 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Not many guys can defend themselves in that situation, even if you are stronger it is the guys you cannot see or coming from your blind side that are the problem.

"Strike the shepherd and the sheep will scatter."

Blast the guy talking shit, really fuck him up with a vengeance, and the others will be stunned.

Walk back and keep your eyes on them as they remain in shock and can't sneak up on you.

Get about 1/2 block away and then run like the wind.

I concur!

If ever I am in that situation, one or two guys are getting there teeth knocked out of them.

Quote: (02-02-2014 05:02 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Is that so? Do you have hundreds of YouTube videos supporting your assertion that this isn't a race thing?

Ive seen many videos of roidhead monkeys bullying little guys or a bunch of them fucking up a single guy in groups even in real life, do you have proof that youre not just like them? Would you be happy if guys suddenly start avoiding you based on stereotypes?

Quote: (02-02-2014 03:12 AM)MikeCF Wrote:  

It's fool hardy to not proceed under the assumption that a group of black males approaching a white man is anything but an invitation for disaster.

I dont know maybe, all i was saying is that this probably woudnt have happened is those white guys didnt have pretty much a sign over their heads saying we cant fight for shit.
Has anything like that ever happened to you personally? Based on your posts about yourself i would say people might be scared of you not the other way around.





I dont see anyone getting involved in this and start kicking the white guy while he is on the floor.

" Would you be happy if guys suddenly start avoiding you based on stereotypes?"

I do not look like a nice man, even though I'm friendly and warm when you get to me know me. That said, people would be wise to apply rational thinking (by stereotyping) and avoid me.

Does anyone have the danger & play link on fights?

http://dangerandplay.com/2014/02/02/surv...eet-fight/

Quote: (02-02-2014 03:10 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

I don't think any of this has to do with being blue pill or red pill. It's about men in this country just being way too soft. Every man needs to hit the gym, be in shape, and take up some boxing, some Muay Thai or Krav. Part of being a man is knowing how to hold your own if someone is fucking with you. Obviously within reason of course, don't fight a dude with a gun.

Far too many people confuse being able to win sparring matches with actually being able to win fights. Krav Maga is designed for actual fights to the death. There's a huge difference between what's useful in a real fight and what's useful in the dojo.

Quote: (02-03-2014 12:56 AM)Truth Teller Wrote:  

Quote: (02-02-2014 03:10 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

I don't think any of this has to do with being blue pill or red pill. It's about men in this country just being way too soft. Every man needs to hit the gym, be in shape, and take up some boxing, some Muay Thai or Krav. Part of being a man is knowing how to hold your own if someone is fucking with you. Obviously within reason of course, don't fight a dude with a gun.

Far too many people confuse being able to win sparring matches with actually being able to win fights. Krav Maga is designed for actual fights to the death. There's a huge difference between what's useful in a real fight and what's useful in the dojo.

Krav Maga is phony nonsense designed to make Americans feel cool because it's based on "Israeli Special Forces" fighting. All marketing.

Boxing and Muay Thai is based on fighting a resisting opponent.

You can go on YouTube and see boxers owner multiple attackers.

Quote: (02-02-2014 06:45 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

" Would you be happy if guys suddenly start avoiding you based on stereotypes?"

I do not look like a nice man, even though I'm friendly and warm when you get to me know me. That said, people would be wise to apply rational thinking (by stereotyping) and avoid me.

I use the same approach.

And whenever I'm walking up on a group of dudes that even look like they might be a problem I always look right at them, right in the eye and give them a little whatsup with my head by raising a little bit - kinda like a reverse nod.

hell, i look at everyone on the street in the eye.

Quote: (02-02-2014 06:33 PM)dog24 Wrote:  

Would you be happy if guys suddenly start avoiding you based on stereotypes?

Where do you think stereotypes come from?

When a man does not commit to an American woman because she shows signs of being a slut, is he wrong for this decision because he's basing it on a stereotype?

Wald

This got a little derailed, i said i have been in situations like that, particularly construction workers have a thing for calling me pretty boy, also dirt poor guys usually dont like me cause i dress nice.

When i had the mindset of oh shit there are those guys again i hope they dont pick on me of course it always happened.

Once i had enough and said fuck it, every time a guy that looked like that or a group would walk past by me in my head i would be thinking motherfucker please say something to me i beg you, and i was more than willing to fight a couple of guys at the time and deal with the consequences of it if i had too.
I would meanmug those guys with hatred on my face and i guess my body language also showed that i wasnt afraid at all.

I didnt get in a single fight after that, no one even says anything they usually just nod back.

Did i solve the problem yes, but at what cost? whenever that happens it completely ruins my day, i cant get the negativity off my head. And i dont wish that mindset on any of you guys, cause eventually it evolves into "the world is out to get me"

Why did i mentioned stereotypes? because in more than one occasion people that i never thought would be friendly to me would come up try to be friends with me and eventually ask why do you always look so mad?

So like mike said use rational thinking, if someone looks like they might do something be aware but dont get too paranoid worrying about people that dont matter in this world and most likely hate themselves more than the people they try to mess with, and dont let their negativity rub off on you.

Quote: (02-03-2014 11:37 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

And whenever I'm walking up on a group of dudes that even look like they might be a problem I always look right at them, right in the eye and give them a little whatsup with my head by raising a little bit - kinda like a reverse nod.

Yeah. I'm on record as really hating the racist bullshit in the manosphere.

That doesn't mean I'm a libtard and when I see a group of young black males, just think everything is all cool and that extra vigilance isn't required.

(Of course when I see white skater punks I'm ready to inflict violence, too, so it's not strictly a race thing.)

People who don't stereotype are retarded, plain and simple.

Call me sheltered but I've never had to see something like this happen in real life.

I don't understand it at all. Fuck using a gun, why are they not running?

Quote: (02-03-2014 12:23 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Quote: (02-03-2014 11:37 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

And whenever I'm walking up on a group of dudes that even look like they might be a problem I always look right at them, right in the eye and give them a little whatsup with my head by raising a little bit - kinda like a reverse nod.

Yeah. I'm on record as really hating the racist bullshit in the manosphere.

That doesn't mean I'm a libtard and when I see a group of young black males, just think everything is all cool and that extra vigilance isn't required.

(Of course when I see white skater punks I'm ready to inflict violence, too, so it's not strictly a race thing.)

People who don't stereotype are retarded, plain and simple.

Amen to this. I don't understand the logic, like, "It's worth it to get my ass handed to me because I knew in my heart that I didn't sterotype that group of (young black men, tatted-up biker guys, skinheads, feminist horde, etc.)" Sure, whatever.

People just need to get their ass beat or hell, even just come up on the losing side of an attack one time for their perspective on this kind of stuff to change completely. It's like people who say they'd never hit a guy in the nuts or pull off an ear (grabbing and ripping an earring). Let a few guys dance on your face or use your head to kick an extra point and THEN let me know how you feel about all those "rules".

Quote: (02-03-2014 11:26 AM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Quote: (02-03-2014 12:56 AM)Truth Teller Wrote:  

Quote: (02-02-2014 03:10 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

I don't think any of this has to do with being blue pill or red pill. It's about men in this country just being way too soft. Every man needs to hit the gym, be in shape, and take up some boxing, some Muay Thai or Krav. Part of being a man is knowing how to hold your own if someone is fucking with you. Obviously within reason of course, don't fight a dude with a gun.

Far too many people confuse being able to win sparring matches with actually being able to win fights. Krav Maga is designed for actual fights to the death. There's a huge difference between what's useful in a real fight and what's useful in the dojo.

Krav Maga is phony nonsense designed to make Americans feel cool because it's based on "Israeli Special Forces" fighting. All marketing.

Boxing and Muay Thai is based on fighting a resisting opponent.

You can go on YouTube and see boxers owner multiple attackers.

Have you ever taken KM? Have you ever visited one of the training centers and watched some classes? Or is your entire knowledge based on a couple youtube searches? Apparently not otherwise you'd know that full contact sparing was a part of every single class. Sometimes they would even move us outside to the parking lot to practice to give it more environmental realism.

Don't talk down on a fighting style if it's from a place of ignorance. I can assure you that KM isn't some Taebo glorified cardio Kickboxing shit. There were some hard motherfuckers that taught class, some of them even being pro boxers and BJJ black belts.

Quote: (02-03-2014 12:54 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Have you ever taken KM? Have you ever visited one of the training centers and watched some classes? Or is your entire knowledge based on a couple youtube searches? Apparently not otherwise you'd know that full contact sparing was a part of every single class. Sometimes they would even move us outside to the parking lot to practice to give it more environmental realism.

I've been in and out of dojo and martial arts studies and gyms since I was 10.

Krav is not full contact sparring. Not even boxing is full contact sparring. You would get brain damage if you went "full contact" all of the time.

Krav INSTRUCTORS (from the famed LA academy) would train at my MMA gym. In fact, the best Krav instructors would train BJJ and MMA and then teach a watered down version to Krav students.

Krav is a martial art that teaches fantasy tactics. This is a warm up for a real fighting art and it's what Krav considers sparring:

And this is boxing. NO fancy marketing about how to learn LETHAL SELF DEFENSE TECHNIQUES FROM THE ISRAELI SPECIAL FORCES.

No ad copy or sales letters. No two-year contracts or high pressure sales tactics.

Just basic fundamentals of American boxing that you learn in a real gym:

That was full contact sparring against resisting opponents. I think what you are *trying* to say is "full power". Newbs start off light and with more experience go harder. You decide with your partner how hard you want to go. I've seen some serious injuries in there, torn ligaments, knocked out teeth. I lost my big toenails multiple times from kicks, painful as fuck. Don't imply that we didn't work hard.

The purpose of KM is to take someone with no fight experience and get them trained and competent with handling themselves in the street in a short amount of time. Not to make someone a prize fighter in the ring or the Olympics. The LAPD even used KM to train their officers in hand to hand combat. You don't have time to train officers for the ten years it would take to get a black belt in BJJ. It has to be efficient, fairly easy to learn and effective in a street scenario.

You call it watered down, I see it as basically combining the most effective techniques from different styles and putting it into one system where you can be competent in under a year of training. With the addition of some weapon disarming techniques. It's actually an excellent system for teaching the rudimentaries of fight so that you handle yourself. Now if you want to go fight in a cage that's a totally different game that takes a different set of skills. A pro fight may last 30 minutes, a street fight is usually over in 30 seconds, and much of the stuff that KM teachers would be illegal for use in competitive fighting, e.g. groin strikes, kicks to the knees, punches to the throat, eye gouges, etc.

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I'm not going to have a back and forth pissing contest over what style is best to learn. Go to any martial arts forum and people have these endless debates about who's style can kick who's ass. It's about as pointless as arguing over whose political party is the best. Every style has fanboys and haters. "BJJ sucks because in real life it's never one on one! " , "Boxing sucks because a wrestler would take him to the ground and it's over! ", "Tae Kwon Do sucks because it's 90% kicking! " And on and on ... Hey study whatever you're comfortable with, ultimately it's the fighter's heart as much as it is the style. A style can't be any better than the guy practicing it.

Quote: (02-03-2014 01:07 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Krav is a martial art that teaches fantasy tactics. This is a warm up for a real fighting art and it's what Krav considers sparring:

Why aren't they trying to hit each other in the face?

Most of the shots taken seem to be aimed at the center mass or sides.

Wald