Well...34...I've been aware of the red pill now for about a year and a half. It changed my life. I ended up here kind of by accident after I let some worthless ho stomp all over me because I had no clue about reality, but now I do thanks to the manosphere. I haven't collected a ton of notches in this past year, but I have successfully boned and had mini relationships with a bunch of cute girls - all thanks to my new found knowledge of red pill game. This is some basic advice some of you newbies might learn a thing or two from, you veterans will probably not find anything new here. Hope someone finds it useful.

1) Don't be needy. Always act like you have a harem of bitches who want to suck your dick even if you haven't seen a vagina in months. You're a sexually satisfied alpha male - at least that's your story until it is your story.

2) Take Charge. Women say they want to be your equal. They do not. They want you take them on a fun ride. You plan shit out. Make sure it doesn't suck. You don't have to spend mad money, but you are going to spend a little in the beginning.

3) Never apologize or accept shame for wanting sex. You have testicles. They make testosterone. Never apologize for that.

4) Be overconfident. Don't talk yourself up like a clown, but don't ever be self deprecating. Ever. You only share victories. Never failures. Maybe later on in a relationship with a girl you can show a little vulnerability - that time is not prior to the bang.

5) Never indulge girl's stupid ideas. Call them out on their shit. She says something dumb, comment on it wryly. They want you to do that - it isn't being rude. Women like a man who disagrees, and offers his own point of view. 90% of men will never ever do this with a girl- but you will and she will see you as different.

6) Never let a girl disrespect you in a glaring way. Showing up a little late to a date happens. Get over it. But if the bitch crosses the line in a serious way, call her out. Make her pay. If she flirts with another guy in front of you on a date, tease her about it. If she doesn't apologize, leave.

7) Always be teasing. Shes you're little sisters bratty friend. Treat her that way. Observe something she does that suggests insecurity and point it out in a playful way.

8) If you get a no, but shes got that slutty twinkle in her eye, say ok. Then try again in 60-90 seconds.

9) Master the art of being laid back, but engaged and alert in conversation.

10) Body language is important. Don't slump. Have proper posture. A man who is confident carries himself like hes ready to engage.

11) Make physical contact quickly when you meet a new girl, anywhere. Touch her forearm or her shoulder when talking to her, and then make sure you make eye contact. Not like within 5 seconds, but after about a minute or 2. Its a great way to gauge her natural interest level before you're mouthpiece has a chance to have any effect. If she stiffens up, shes not as good of a prospect as a girl who doesn't stiffen or recoil.

12) If a girl offers to pay, say thanks and let her. Discussion over. You're worth it. Guys get hung up on this - don't over think it.

13) Don't get cutesy with the texting. Logistics only till you bang her. Then more room for commenting about inside jokes or other stuff. But even keep that to a minimum.

14) Always have rubbers in your car, in your jacket, whatever.

15) Girls who want to get fucked are dressed like sluts. Prioritize them when you go out to the club/bar/scene.

16) Don't give fat bitches the time of day. Why? Because they won't leave if you do.

17) Girls love humor. If you suck at being funny, watch the delivery style of the masters of comedy. Chris Rock, Richard Pryor, George Carlin, Louis CK, Bill Hicks, or whoever you like - some of it will rub off on you. If you like Dane Cook, you don't deserve to live, let alone to get laid.

18) It's supposed to be fun. It isn't warfare. You're not undercover for the CIA. Showing up is half the battle. Chill out. Of course we all want to get laid and dating can be nervewracking, but the more you do it the less nervewracking it becomes..

19) Jealousy can only be overcome once you've banged a couple decent girls in a relatively short back to back time. You're gonna have pangs of paranoia and jealousy. It's natural. Keep on approaching. One day you won't feel jealous at all - one day - and only if you put in the work to get there.

20) 99% of the time women cannot be trusted to give good counsel to men on dating and sex. Maybe you'll have a red pill female friend. I do. You probably don't. Rely on the game gurus you like and red pill male friends who get laid. Mine are Heartiste/Roissy, Roosh, and Rolo. Shout out to alpha game plan too.

21) Befriend some natural alphas. You can internalize a lot of shit seeing how game congruent their lives are.

22) Move slowly with the whole relationship thing, if that's what you're looking for. She gets to be your girlfriend. You do not ask her to be. You do not buy her flowers or jewelry. You do not take her on a vacation. She earns this shit. She doesn't get the perks till you're sure you're the only cock shes riding and you feel some genuine appreciation.

23) They more you give her too quickly, the less she values you. This goes for both your money and your time.

24) Loser friends will emit loserish vibes that will infect you. Friends who win will emit winner vibes that will infect you. Which kind of vibe do you want?

25) Trim your cock and ball hair. It'll look bigger, and it'll look more delicious to the ho. Especially if you want your balls licked. Which you do - do you not?

26) Workout and eat right. Muslces are born in the gym, but raised in the kitchen. You're T levels will go up, your belly will go down. Feeling confident around the pool means access to half naked girls. Half naked girls are half way to being naked. See where I'm going with this?

27) Don't be a player hater. There's always some white knight faggot who wants to get in the way of your roll. Don't be that guy. And viciously excise motherfuckers like that from your social circle, or clown the fuck outta them if they get in your way during a social interaction. Be ruthless. Fuck em.

28) Remember that there once was a time when only the physically strong, socially dominant man got to breed. That time never left, we just invented agriculture, antibiotics, and TV so there's a need to be somewhat civilized in these static societies we live in today. But that core fact hasn't changed. Show me a physically strong, socially dominant man and I'll show you someone who knows what vagina tastes like.

29) Roissy is a fucking nut bag - but goddamn it if chateau heartiste isn't the best source of practical game knowledge on the interweb (no offense Roosh lol), if you can find it amidst the white nationalism and fixation on alternative right politics. He will pry your eyes open and expose you to the absolutely fucking debased sexual nature of these hoes.

30) Don't feel terribly bad about missing out on any one approach, but if you miss out on a good one, make sure you don't skip the next good one. One approach probably doesn't mean much in the great scheme of things - that's how you'll rationalize it and it's not completely wrong. But the fewer approaches you do the fewer chances you're gonna get laid. Get some discipline. If you find yourself in a pattern of passing on approaches, stop and ask yourself why. Is it because you've got a girl who's currently draining your balls and the girl in question is merely ok? That's understandable. But if you don't have any steady puss and you're passing frequently, you gotta sack up man. The squeaky cock gets the poon.

31) Dress well. Girls have told me on the first date that the reason they said yes to my approach was that I was dressed nicely. You don't have to suit up, or "peacock" - you just have to be clean, smell good, keep you hair looking good and stylish, and wear clothes that fit.

32) Keep the public kissing down to a bare minimum. It may feel alpha to grab your girl at a bar and start making out with her, but save it for a more private moment walking to the car or something like that. If you're gonna do it, do it only once in the public environment.

33) Fuck like a champ. Most guys who haven't gotten many opportunities to bang aren't gonna be great at sex. You only get better with practice, so accept that you probably aren't going to knock it out of the park and beat the pussy up on the first bang or two with a new girl. In fact, you may not get another chance because of it. You'll get over it - and if that happens you will go back out and find another girl to fuck until you find one who likes getting fucked by you.

34) Aloofness does not mean being quiet or boring. The quiet brooding guy gets as much puss as the sperg in mom's basement. Aloof means being emotionally reticent when women are expecting you to be the opposite. Shes just one of many play things in your world; not the center of it. She doesn't want to be anyway.

Great list. I am 29, just four months into the redpill. The hardest thing still is the constant flaking, finding that most hot women have 5 year boyfriends, and the endless approaching.

Quote: (10-18-2013 12:07 PM)Ternarydemonite Wrote:  

Great list. I am 29, just four months into the redpill. The hardest thing still is the constant flaking, finding that most hot women have 5 year boyfriends, and the endless approaching.

Thanks.

One day you won't even notice the flaking. You won't even realize that a girl didn't respond to your text. It's a numbers game.

EasyMoney, I've been reading TRP blogs and Heartiste for quite a while now. This was an amazing post, for which you got way too little recognition here. Would post it elsewhere too if I were you! It's mostly familiar stuff, but it's useful - and good advice in a condensed form is hard to find these days. Wish I could have CH without the political / racist / etc. rants that go on for pages.

^Yeah: I miss the old Roissy. If you want to improve your humour read Big Ghost Ltd. Guy is hilarious.

Best 5 Tips that would've helped the Newbie Me in 2010:

1) Lose body fat
2) Do pullups, dips, and neck bridges
3) Wear fitted clothing
4) Approach 1000 women
5) Get a hobby and make female friends

I've always liked this...

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I’m going to give some tips here for the poor sucker guys who are posting online trying to get laid and who are spending hundreds / thousands of dollars on all those whores out there without getting any play. (You bitches know exactly what you’re doing, and I’m on to your game!)

* Don’t be sexually judgemental in any way. A woman’s worst fear is to be perceived as a slut. She will suck your toes and take it in the ass if she thinks you don’t view her poorly for it (and she knows her friends won’t find out.)

* Don’t get angry at her. Women know they have emotional outbursts and they need to trust that you can handle that. It’s ok (and necessary) to occasionally put your foot down…just make sure she knows you are fully in control of yourself.

* Don’t let her manipulate you or control you in any way. She will immediately lose all respect for you. Always be leading. It’s just like dancing – women hate a man who can’t lead.

* When first approaching a woman or a group, they tend to get a feeling like this is just your little scheme to get close to them, when you really just want something from them – like sex. (And they’re right.) It’s important to structure your body language and conversation so that they honestly don’t believe you want something from them. They should feel like you are about to leave at any second.

* DON’T TRY TO IMPRESS HER IN ANY WAY. Don’t show off. Don’t talk about accomplishments or possessions. As soon as she perceives that you are trying to prove yourself to her, she loses all interest.

* Don’t ignore her friends. A woman values her friend’s opinions more than just about anything else in the world. Nothing matters to her more than what other women are thinking. Give her friends lots of attention and get everyone laughing. If one woman is feeling different than the others, she will drag them away. They will follow like a flock of pigeons. Society is the book of women. (Notice that men do NOT behave this way! Women are very different!)

* To get a woman attracted / emotionally vulnerable, give her lots of emotions and feelings. Don’t just make her feel good. Make her feel good, and angry, and sad, and connected, and astonished, and intrigued, etc. Make her laugh. Tease her. Tell stories about your sick puppy. Tell her why things would never work out between the two of you. Call her a dork. If she gets heated up, she will start touching you…playfully push her away. If she calls you a jerk and punches your arm, you are doing it right. If she gives you that “I can’t believe you just said that” look, do NOT back down, do not say “Oh I’m just kidding” or anything like that.

* As she gets more emotional, she will try to ruin things by throwing in logic. She will ask you if you are a player, or if you say this to all the girls, or whatever. The trick is this: Don’t take it seriously by giving it some logical answer! That’s right…women lose interest if you take them seriously!!! It’s crazy but that’s how they behave. Just blow it off or misinterpret what she’s saying as though she is coming on to you. If you fail these tests, she will be gone so fast your head will spin.

* She will start asking you lots of questions. This is what chicks do when they suddenly find themselves attracted to a man they know nothing about. This is your chance to open up a little and also find out more about her and build a deeper connection. You have to do this, or she will flake later (even if you’ve kissed her!) Women are the worst flakes in the world! Don’t make it too easy for her, make her work for it a bit. Then talk about connections and childhood memories and things you have in common, etc. She needs to feel that this is genuine. This is usually the time when I throw in a few fake vulnerabilities, like pretending I’m shy or insecure about something. I know it’s fucked up but women need to see that there are at least a few small holes where they can sink their hooks in you. They get uneasy if you are too perfect.

* Make sure she gets the feeling that you have standards and that you are judging her based on them. Ask her questions that show her you are checking her out to see if she is up to snuff. Women don’t like to feel like you are with them only because you can’t do any better. They prefer to feel like you have high standards; you can get any chick you want, but you chose HER because she is SOOOO special and SOOOO different from all the others. Yeah, I know.

* Move her to different locations. Take her next door for a drink. Take her across the street to check out some art. The more locations the better.

* Take responsibility for every escalation. A woman will do just about anything as long as she doesn’t have to feel like it was “her fault.” Make it YOUR fault. Make it “just happen.” She will rationalize it to herself later using the same bullshit generator that women use to flake out on dates at the last minute. Don’t get her horny until you get her isolated. Believe me, emotional is better than horny.

* Keep the woman always swinging somewhere between validation and rejection. If she feels rejected, she drops out or gets REALLY MAD. And if she feels too validated, she will ditch you in a heartbeat. So push her away (emotionally) and then pull her back in.

* BELIEVE YOUR OWN BULLSHIT. Chicks do not look at your excuses and try to see if they are bullshit or not… because that is the logical thing to do, and chicks are not logical. Rather, what they do is see if YOU seem to believe your own bullshit when you say it. If you look like you do, then chances are, they will believe it too. So the key is to believe your own bullshit, and other aspects about yourself that you want the chick to believe about you too (alpha male..whatever)… because your own self beliefs for some reason will automatically ‘impart’ to the chick!

* One more thing…many guys make the mistake of listening to female romantic advice. Don’t listen to them, THEY DON’T KNOW WTF THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, and they WILL steer you wrong. They will tell you what they THINK they want, instead of what they actually RESPOND to. And furthermore, a large part of the female sexual experience IS the inability to admit these things BECAUSE they derive sexual pleasure from putting up resistance and being overwhelmed.

If you do things this way, after a few months practice you WILL get laid like a rock star. The guys who get laid are the ones who know what they are doing, because they have practiced on lots of women. Ironically, women are most attracted to the men who are most likely to fuck them and then dump them on their ass – because those are precisely the men who have so many other options because they practice on lots of women. That’s why you always hear women bitching about how men are assholes that only want to fuck them and dump them – because those are the men that they gravitate to.

Women tend to wise up when they get towards their 30s, and they start looking for a nice wimpy beta male to settle down with and pay for all their shit. As they get older, they will get more and more desperate to find this guy. Once they do, they will cheat on him with an exciting fun guy like me. (But who wants to fuck some old chick in her 30′s? That’s what beta males are for! Heh)

Hey, don’t blame me – I didn’t make things the way they are. I was just a guy who wanted to get laid. And I do

Quote: (07-08-2015 08:48 AM)XXL Wrote:  

I've always liked this...

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I’m going to give some tips here for the poor sucker guys who are posting online trying to get laid and who are spending hundreds / thousands of dollars on all those whores out there without getting any play. (You bitches know exactly what you’re doing, and I’m on to your game!)

* Don’t be sexually judgemental in any way. A woman’s worst fear is to be perceived as a slut. She will suck your toes and take it in the ass if she thinks you don’t view her poorly for it (and she knows her friends won’t find out.)

* Don’t get angry at her. Women know they have emotional outbursts and they need to trust that you can handle that. It’s ok (and necessary) to occasionally put your foot down…just make sure she knows you are fully in control of yourself.

* Don’t let her manipulate you or control you in any way. She will immediately lose all respect for you. Always be leading. It’s just like dancing – women hate a man who can’t lead.

* When first approaching a woman or a group, they tend to get a feeling like this is just your little scheme to get close to them, when you really just want something from them – like sex. (And they’re right.) It’s important to structure your body language and conversation so that they honestly don’t believe you want something from them. They should feel like you are about to leave at any second.

* DON’T TRY TO IMPRESS HER IN ANY WAY. Don’t show off. Don’t talk about accomplishments or possessions. As soon as she perceives that you are trying to prove yourself to her, she loses all interest.

* Don’t ignore her friends. A woman values her friend’s opinions more than just about anything else in the world. Nothing matters to her more than what other women are thinking. Give her friends lots of attention and get everyone laughing. If one woman is feeling different than the others, she will drag them away. They will follow like a flock of pigeons. Society is the book of women. (Notice that men do NOT behave this way! Women are very different!)

* To get a woman attracted / emotionally vulnerable, give her lots of emotions and feelings. Don’t just make her feel good. Make her feel good, and angry, and sad, and connected, and astonished, and intrigued, etc. Make her laugh. Tease her. Tell stories about your sick puppy. Tell her why things would never work out between the two of you. Call her a dork. If she gets heated up, she will start touching you…playfully push her away. If she calls you a jerk and punches your arm, you are doing it right. If she gives you that “I can’t believe you just said that” look, do NOT back down, do not say “Oh I’m just kidding” or anything like that.

* As she gets more emotional, she will try to ruin things by throwing in logic. She will ask you if you are a player, or if you say this to all the girls, or whatever. The trick is this: Don’t take it seriously by giving it some logical answer! That’s right…women lose interest if you take them seriously!!! It’s crazy but that’s how they behave. Just blow it off or misinterpret what she’s saying as though she is coming on to you. If you fail these tests, she will be gone so fast your head will spin.

* She will start asking you lots of questions. This is what chicks do when they suddenly find themselves attracted to a man they know nothing about. This is your chance to open up a little and also find out more about her and build a deeper connection. You have to do this, or she will flake later (even if you’ve kissed her!) Women are the worst flakes in the world! Don’t make it too easy for her, make her work for it a bit. Then talk about connections and childhood memories and things you have in common, etc. She needs to feel that this is genuine. This is usually the time when I throw in a few fake vulnerabilities, like pretending I’m shy or insecure about something. I know it’s fucked up but women need to see that there are at least a few small holes where they can sink their hooks in you. They get uneasy if you are too perfect.

* Make sure she gets the feeling that you have standards and that you are judging her based on them. Ask her questions that show her you are checking her out to see if she is up to snuff. Women don’t like to feel like you are with them only because you can’t do any better. They prefer to feel like you have high standards; you can get any chick you want, but you chose HER because she is SOOOO special and SOOOO different from all the others. Yeah, I know.

* Move her to different locations. Take her next door for a drink. Take her across the street to check out some art. The more locations the better.

* Take responsibility for every escalation. A woman will do just about anything as long as she doesn’t have to feel like it was “her fault.” Make it YOUR fault. Make it “just happen.” She will rationalize it to herself later using the same bullshit generator that women use to flake out on dates at the last minute. Don’t get her horny until you get her isolated. Believe me, emotional is better than horny.

* Keep the woman always swinging somewhere between validation and rejection. If she feels rejected, she drops out or gets REALLY MAD. And if she feels too validated, she will ditch you in a heartbeat. So push her away (emotionally) and then pull her back in.

* BELIEVE YOUR OWN BULLSHIT. Chicks do not look at your excuses and try to see if they are bullshit or not… because that is the logical thing to do, and chicks are not logical. Rather, what they do is see if YOU seem to believe your own bullshit when you say it. If you look like you do, then chances are, they will believe it too. So the key is to believe your own bullshit, and other aspects about yourself that you want the chick to believe about you too (alpha male..whatever)… because your own self beliefs for some reason will automatically ‘impart’ to the chick!

* One more thing…many guys make the mistake of listening to female romantic advice. Don’t listen to them, THEY DON’T KNOW WTF THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, and they WILL steer you wrong. They will tell you what they THINK they want, instead of what they actually RESPOND to. And furthermore, a large part of the female sexual experience IS the inability to admit these things BECAUSE they derive sexual pleasure from putting up resistance and being overwhelmed.

If you do things this way, after a few months practice you WILL get laid like a rock star. The guys who get laid are the ones who know what they are doing, because they have practiced on lots of women. Ironically, women are most attracted to the men who are most likely to fuck them and then dump them on their ass – because those are precisely the men who have so many other options because they practice on lots of women. That’s why you always hear women bitching about how men are assholes that only want to fuck them and dump them – because those are the men that they gravitate to.

Women tend to wise up when they get towards their 30s, and they start looking for a nice wimpy beta male to settle down with and pay for all their shit. As they get older, they will get more and more desperate to find this guy. Once they do, they will cheat on him with an exciting fun guy like me. (But who wants to fuck some old chick in her 30′s? That’s what beta males are for! Heh)

Hey, don’t blame me – I didn’t make things the way they are. I was just a guy who wanted to get laid. And I do

Liked it? I love this. This is absolute gold.

This is like a 'how to' manual of how to handle women. I can't recall reading something that provides so much detail but yet is so concise in regards to getting what you want from chicks.

I'm going to learn this off by heart.

Thank you so much for sharing this XXL

Great classic list of do's and don'ts. I would only add that one needs to be careful with the aloofness part. If you're a big guy, it may backfire. I had a girl tell me that whenever I got 'quiet', it seemed like I wanted to kick someone in the balls. Another girl said she got 'psychopath' vibes from me whenever I'd clam up in reflection of something important to me. I resolved this by developing a kind of smirk like I was thinking about all the perverted things I was about to do to them (which I did).

I got one more thing to share. I hope you don't mind OP, I think it doesn't matter that guests post their stuff as long as it's relevant to the topic of the thread.

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Obsessing about a particular girl, and whether or not she likes you, is the KISS OF DEATH with women!

If you're worrying about whether a girl likes you or not, chances are she doesn't - or rather, SHE WON'T. She won't because your "worry" and your "obsession" with what she thinks of you will actually push her away.

Let me try to explain.

When you let yourself fall into the "obsession" trap, you begin to analyze everything your dream girl does, every word she says, every move she makes... and try to relate them all to you!

She smiled at you - she didn't smile at you. She emailed you - she didn't email you. She returned your call - she didn't return your call. Confusion, frustration, and anxiety result.

This obsession with her behaviors and their meanings will paralyze you, confuse you, and suck every ounce of confidence you have from your body. You will become a Blithering Blob of Insecurity. And women, in general, are not attracted to Blithering Blobs of Insecurity.

So are you wrong to be confused by women?

NO! Absolutely NO!
Women ARE confusing. Always have been and always will be. That's just the way they are.

Especially when it comes to romance, women seem totally inconsistent in their behaviors.

One minute you're convinced you're the man of her dreams, and the next she seems to be unaware of your existence. One minute she's flirting, and smiling, and rubbing up against you, and the next minute she's gone, left without even saying "bye." You SHOULD be frustrated and confused!

Now, no one knows exactly why women give off such mixed signals and deliberately, it seems, attempt to confuse us. Some suspect it's those magazines they read. Others think it has to do with the secret bathroom conferences they hold. Still others propose that their illogical behaviors are due to the wacky hormones they have surging throughout their bodies. The cause is relatively unimportant. You just have to accept it, and plot your strategy to deal with it.

So, given the inconsistencies of female romantic behavior, attempting to "read" women and figure out what they're thinking, is, at best, an incredibly frustrating experience. So don't do it. Don't even attempt it.

Just say NO to "reading" women!

Okay... well... if you don't really try to "read" women to determine whether they like you or not, then what do you do? What's your strategy? After all, they may be confusing, illogical, and somewhat annoying, but you still wanna get you one.

Simple...
If you're attracted to a girl, then just ASSUME she's attracted to you too. And ACT ACCORDINGLY!

Assume that she likes you and would like to get to know you better. Assume that she's physically attracted to you. Assume that YOU HAVE WHAT IT TAKES to attract such a lady, no matter how incredible she seems.

Assume the positive... always the positive. Assuming the negative will kill any chances you might have with her. (Pessimists, my friend, are not "chick magnets.")

Now there are many exciting benefits of adopting this attitude of assuming that women you like also like you... and treating them accordingly.

For one, if you refuse to obsess about all the little "signs" she's giving you, whether they be good signs or bad signs, you will feel more relaxed, calm, and confident. You won't be "up" one minute because she smiled at you, and "down" the next because she also smiled at some other guy.

Attempting to "read" her will only lead to confusion, frustration, and anxiety. And this will make you more tense when she's around, and thus, less likely to be the charming, charismatic Don Juan that you'd like to be.

And you also won't be wasting your time trying to figure out what she's thinking... trying to figure out what every little move means... and where you stand. You'll be able to devote your "mental time" to something more useful and productive.

Secondly, if you just assume that she likes you, then you will actually increase the probability that she eventually WILL like you. This is known as a self-fulfilling prophecy, and is a well-documented phenomenon in psychological research.

Basically what this means is that if you have a "she likes me" attitude, then you'll project positive, optimistic behaviors and thoughts. She'll pick up on these and ... like you.

If, on the other hand, you have a "she doesn't like me" attitude, you'll project negative, pessimistic behaviors and thoughts. She'll, likewise, pick up on these and ... not like you.

And if you have a "does she like me" attitude, then you'll project tense, anxiety-ridden behaviors and thoughts that will decrease the probability of her liking you... or she may even find being around you to be an "uncomfortable" experience. (Isn't it easier to relax around people who are relaxed themselves?)

And third, the attitude of just assuming that she likes you, rather than worrying about whether she does or not, allows you to maintain control of the situation... and yourself.

If you are obsessing about the "signs" and allow the "signs" to control your behaviors, thoughts, and emotions, then you have basically given her complete control of the situation. And complete control over you!

If she's "good" to you, you're happy. If she's "bad" to you, you're sad. If she wants to encourage you, she can throw out a few positive signals. If she wants to discourage you, she can throw out a few negative signals. You're happiness is basically under her control... whether she knows it or not.

However, if you just assume that she likes you and treat her accordingly, and refuse to be controlled by all the little signs (especially the bad ones), you take charge of the situation. You have decided that you like her. And you have decided that she likes you... or will like you when she gets to know you better. And you act accordingly.

Okay, so you agree that obsessing about a particular girl and whether or not she likes you is not in your best interest. It will turn you into a Blithering Blob of Insecurity, decrease the probability that she will like you, and give her complete control over your happiness.
So what do you do when those thoughts start to take over your mind? I mean, after all, she is a Goddess, right?

Here's one simple little mental trick that might help you...

Whenever the obsessive "does she like me" thoughts start to take over your mind, even if they're the "good" ones, mentally grab them with your hands, throw them down on the floor, and step on them. Then remind yourself that obsessing about her is not in your best interest, that it will suck away your confidence, and actually decrease the probability that you'll eventually get her.

At this point you want to take a deep breath... smile... laugh... and think to yourself...

Sounds a bit like some woo woo shit I know but it's actually very practical. That's why I wanted to share it, not because I'm romantic about it. When you have very hot Russian GF who's very talented at shittesting and being confusing in general then that's basically the only thing you can do, to stay centered no matter what she says, screams, throws at you etc. But it's same as with other girls you just met and don't feel like you know where you stand with her.

This is all great stuff. I would I could get it branded into my mind permanently. Still learning...

Cheers for this man. I'm going to be memorizing it.

I'm not the newest guy on the block, but my main issue is approaching and eye contact. When I get the attention of a chick, I can easily conversate, escalate, and seal the deal. But it's the beginning that causes me the most stress. The main reason is because I live in a place where quite frankly the average woman is a bitch. They pride themselves on giving off snarky looks unprovoked and humiliating men who approach if they don't fit the social expectations of what they consider attractive. And in the city where I live, what's consider attractive are preppy/yuppie douchebags of the 1 percent and hoodlums who have "street swag". IOIs, which is what I mainly look for when considering approaching targets, are a rarity, and when they do happen, I'm usually so disillusioned that I either freeze up or just don't believe it.

To be honest, I just find it mentally draining dealing with the main personalities in the city where I live to the point that unless I receive a "I want you to fuck me hard" smile, I don't even make an attempt. I know that's not the best strategy but we all don't live overseas or in a pussy paradise where every broad is willing to fuck a guy who just has the balls to approach them. Not to sound bitchy, but this has been a constant issue despite "putting myself out there".

Brilliant advice. Thanks for this write up!

Quote: (07-12-2015 10:52 AM)SuS Wrote:  

I'm not the newest guy on the block, but my main issue is approaching and eye contact. When I get the attention of a chick, I can easily conversate, escalate, and seal the deal. But it's the beginning that causes me the most stress. The main reason is because I live in a place where quite frankly the average woman is a bitch. They pride themselves on giving off snarky looks unprovoked and humiliating men who approach if they don't fit the social expectations of what they consider attractive. And in the city where I live, what's consider attractive are preppy/yuppie douchebags of the 1 percent and hoodlums who have "street swag". IOIs, which is what I mainly look for when considering approaching targets, are a rarity, and when they do happen, I'm usually so disillusioned that I either freeze up or just don't believe it.

To be honest, I just find it mentally draining dealing with the main personalities in the city where I live to the point that unless I receive a "I want you to fuck me hard" smile, I don't even make an attempt. I know that's not the best strategy but we all don't live overseas or in a pussy paradise where every broad is willing to fuck a guy who just has the balls to approach them. Not to sound bitchy, but this has been a constant issue despite "putting myself out there".

Would this city be Washington, DC? That's how I feel here and thus the reason why I try to escape at least a few times per year overseas.

Quote: (07-18-2015 11:04 PM)TripleG Wrote:  

Quote: (07-12-2015 10:52 AM)SuS Wrote:  

I'm not the newest guy on the block, but my main issue is approaching and eye contact. When I get the attention of a chick, I can easily conversate, escalate, and seal the deal. But it's the beginning that causes me the most stress. The main reason is because I live in a place where quite frankly the average woman is a bitch. They pride themselves on giving off snarky looks unprovoked and humiliating men who approach if they don't fit the social expectations of what they consider attractive. And in the city where I live, what's consider attractive are preppy/yuppie douchebags of the 1 percent and hoodlums who have "street swag". IOIs, which is what I mainly look for when considering approaching targets, are a rarity, and when they do happen, I'm usually so disillusioned that I either freeze up or just don't believe it.

To be honest, I just find it mentally draining dealing with the main personalities in the city where I live to the point that unless I receive a "I want you to fuck me hard" smile, I don't even make an attempt. I know that's not the best strategy but we all don't live overseas or in a pussy paradise where every broad is willing to fuck a guy who just has the balls to approach them. Not to sound bitchy, but this has been a constant issue despite "putting myself out there".

Would this city be Washington, DC? That's how I feel here and thus the reason why I try to escape at least a few times per year overseas.

A damn good first guess. The saddest thing about this city is that it has all the characteristics that make a great city for meeting chicks or people in general (high concentration of twenty somethings, decent mass transit, great logistics, decreasing violent crime, highly educated, etc) but it's those same twenty-somethings (along with the lower class locals for a different reason) who fuck up the city the most with their snobbery, cliquishness, and attitude.

Speaking of overseas, I would love some tips on how to escape this shithole if only for a moment. Hell, NYC has become a blessing for my mental health. As much as people shit on that place for its people, New Yorkers are more warming and welcoming than your average DMV douche.

This thread is pure gold. +1 rep to the OP for that

@Sus,

"Speaking of overseas, I would love some tips on how to escape this shithole if only for a moment."

All your answers lie in the Rooshvforum travel section. There are many countries to escape the boredom and stuck-up US women...if you have only a few weeks places like Columbia, Ukraine, Thailand, Philippines comes to mind. Basically any place that has not been invaded by western feminism will put a smile on your face for a brief escape. I am somewhat fortunate to have a month off per year at my current job so during those precious weeks you'll find me traveling abroad.

The list is good except #18 I think for the vast majority of newbies is terrible advice.

It is war if you suck at game in the beginning. You need to be focused on teasing, putting playful pressure on her, escalating, and above all going for the kill at the right moment. Newbies caught up in the acting cool and having fun tend to forget this isn't Tea Time With Nancy. It is about fucking her that is the entire point. You need to have that kill in the back of your mind at all times.

Too many newbies are seen as friends because they don't think it's war.

It is war, even when you get better. It is just that you are so used to their games you don't feel the conflict and learn to enjoy that.

Quote: (07-19-2015 10:01 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

The list is good except #18 I think for the vast majority of newbies is terrible advice.

It is war if you suck at game in the beginning. You need to be focused on teasing, putting playful pressure on her, escalating, and above all going for the kill at the right moment. Newbies caught up in the acting cool and having fun tend to forget this isn't Tea Time With Nancy. It is about fucking her that is the entire point. You need to have that kill in the back of your mind at all times.

Too many newbies are seen as friends because they don't think it's war.

It is war, even when you get better. It is just that you are so used to their games you don't feel the conflict and learn to enjoy that.

True dat. If I had a nickel for every time I've been "friend-zoned" I'd have a big war chest

Very nice. Thank you sir.

Quote: (10-17-2013 10:53 PM)EasyMoney Wrote:  

29) Roissy is a fucking nut bag - but goddamn it if chateau heartiste isn't the best source of practical game knowledge on the interweb (no offense Roosh lol), if you can find it amidst the white nationalism and fixation on alternative right politics. He will pry your eyes open and expose you to the absolutely fucking debased sexual nature of these hoes.

I laughed way too long at this. Its too true, even when I agree with him most of the time.

Thanks to all who posted their appreciation for my list. I've been a stranger round these parts for a while, so its really nice to see that some people got some value out of it. 2 years went by since i wrote that list and i still stand behind every word of it.

Quote: (10-19-2013 06:31 PM)EasyMoney Wrote:  

Quote: (10-18-2013 12:07 PM)Ternarydemonite Wrote:  

Great list. I am 29, just four months into the redpill. The hardest thing still is the constant flaking, finding that most hot women have 5 year boyfriends, and the endless approaching.

Thanks.

One day you won't even notice the flaking. You won't even realize that a girl didn't respond to your text. It's a numbers game.

True that! I've been only 1.5 years in the game and the flaking bothers me as much as when I am fishing and the fish manages to get off the hook post hooking. You will get used to it and be able to laugh it off.

Quote: (10-17-2013 10:53 PM)EasyMoney Wrote:  

If you like Dane Cook, you don't deserve to live, let alone to get laid.

That's some solid advice right there.