Hello guys,

I am not new to forum as I have been observing it and reading it from time to time for AGES, and I'm an experienced guy when it comes to women, but this situation requires a little bit more skill and I was wondering what everyone here things I should do with it.

Well, it's not long winded, to put it simply, I like this girl, she's French, I used to work with her up until march this year where we got kinda close, but then she went to France for the summer and had only just returned. Since returning she has started acting flaky going from us meeting up to her saying "yeah I'll tell you if I'm out tonight" I think it's her friends that are making her do this, nonetheless I don't really know what step to take.

We have never been intimate and I know she has some interest in me, but I can't tell how much without getting in front of her. Problem is she lives in another city so how can I steer this to a daytime meet alone instead of the night club idea she wants. I don't have friends in that city so I can't even wingman it if I wanted to, but more so she isn't a night game sort of girl, she needs to be pulled in during daylight.

Any help would be welcomed! Just before the criticisms come out just to make it clear I've gamed women since I was 15, but this girl is one of my serious ones, I'm not just trying to sleep with her, so no "forget her move on" comments please!

Thanks!

OP, with all due respect, although you say you are experienced with women, your writing and problem puts that into question. Whenever the words "this girl" are uttered, you're ALREADY losing. Also, this should be in Newbie section. The answer is the same as with ALL girls: night, drinks, couple of venues, isolate. You might rent an apartment on AirBnB and tell her you are house sitting for a friend (to avoid having to pull her to a hotel). Personally I think it's a waste of time. What does it mean you're not "just" trying to sleep with her? You mean you have all kinds of romantic special feelings towards her because she is special? Sorry to be harsh.

Try the 'cooking' route... get interested in French food then ask her if she knows how to cook xyz dish. Steer it towards a date where she cooks for you.

You like her correct?

But you haven't fucked her yet...

What if you have sex and she has pussy lips the size of Dodger hotdogs?

I keep saying this but it's falling on deaf ears: Fuck her, THEN decide if you want to keep her around. You're already putting her on a pedestal.

"Problem is she lives in another city so how can I steer this to a daytime meet alone instead of the night club idea she wants. I don't have friends in that city so I can't even wingman it if I wanted to, but more so she isn't a night game sort of girl, she needs to be pulled in during daylight."

Huh? You just said she's into a club idea...but then she said she's not the night time type of pull.

Drop the preconceived ideas of a girl being a night game or day game type. ALL girls like to get fucked. Period.

Her friends are "making" her not meet up with you?

Let me tell you something about women-if they want to see you ,they will make it happen. They will blow off friends, family, skip out on work and other obligations to see you. You are trying to rationalize away the obvious-that she is just not nearly as attracted to you as you are to her

She wants to go to a nightclub but she isn't a "night game sort of girl" Sounds like you have an idealized vision of her that is not reality

She spent from March to October in France, her home country. How many guys do you think she sucked and fucked in those months? Maybe none. But maybe three, five, fifteen, who knows?

You're "serious" about her, but have never had sex with her. How "serious" do you think she is about you?

I'm just pointing out some issues for you to think about.

Guys, when I said in "serious" about her, it's not in an emotional way, i just mean that unlike other girls I game, I don't want to just game her to fuck her, that's the only difference.

Menace: thanks for you response, but your answering it like how I thought you would. The point is, I'm just trying to see if she is a waste of time or not, as I said in hammered a lot of women, in fact I have been going out gaming since 15, way before most people even know what it was, but sometimes, you come across someone who is slightly different, that you don't want to take the piss with, do you know what I mean?

However in essence your right, she's either going to be "about it" like I commonly say, or she isn't, either way I'm not wasting any more time after this weekend, I never dwell on a chick.

Quote: (10-17-2013 03:59 AM)MisterSSW4 Wrote:  

Guys, when I said in "serious" about her, it's not in an emotional way, i just mean that unlike other girls I game, I don't want to just game her to fuck her, that's the only difference.

Menace: thanks for you response, but your answering it like how I thought you would. The point is, I'm just trying to see if she is a waste of time or not, as I said in hammered a lot of women, in fact I have been going out gaming since 15, way before most people even know what it was, but sometimes, you come across someone who is slightly different, that you don't want to take the piss with, do you know what I mean?

However in essence your right, she's either going to be "about it" like I commonly say, or she isn't, either way I'm not wasting any more time after this weekend, I never dwell on a chick.

You're not "emotional" about her - yet you don't want to "just" fuck. That means there are emotions involved, dude. Yes, occasionally there is someone different, but if you are as experienced as you say, then you know that you can't change your game plan based off of that.

Quote: (10-17-2013 03:59 AM)MisterSSW4 Wrote:  

However in essence your right, she's either going to be "about it" like I commonly say, or she isn't, either way I'm not wasting any more time after this weekend, I never dwell on a chick.

Go radio silent on her. Game other girls. Re-initiate later on and see how she responds. Maybe she has some potential dick right now and it's local unlike you. Doesn't really matter.

You never dwell on a chick? Sure sounds like you're dwelling on her since you're posting about her here. A little bit of male hamster here bud.

No not at all, no dwelling, but I haven't seen this through yet to pass her off my list, if you know what I mean.
By not instantly wanting to "fuck her" doesn't mean to say your emotional with them, it just means this girl may take slightly longer to game, and you'll find that many people on this site and off it, talk about their experiences "gaming women" but in actual fact all they have fucked are easy women, with low class/quality, rebounds, double digs, or stupid as fuck. Put an intelligent high quality girl into the mix, and these cheesy lines that so many people say doesn't work, at least in the city of London anyway.

But I get what you mean, tbh I'm just gonna do my usual indifferent stance, I'm pretty good at reading girls so I'll tell if she's a waste of time or not today.

the more you try to justify your points against what these guys are saying, the more it becomes obvious that these guys are right.

imo, and from observation, it doesn't really matter how much success with women you have had in the past. once in a while, you still meet this occasional chick that throws you off your game and messes with your head. what the red pill does is make you self-aware of the real situation so you can check yourself more effectively every time this shit happens and with experience, it happens less and less because you become in control of your "feelings" more and more.

that's what you (we) need bro -- tame that rainbow-ejaculating, poetry-gushing, diaper-wearing romantic cupid creature from within you (us) and realize the fact that any attraction we men feel for these broads is simply an expression of nature's hardcoded commands to make more babies.

Quote: (10-20-2013 11:44 PM)Diego Wrote:  

the more you try to justify your points against what these guys are saying, the more it becomes obvious that these guys are right.

imo, and from observation, it doesn't really matter how much success with women you have had in the past. once in a while, you still meet this occasional chick that throws you off your game and messes with your head. what the red pill does is make you self-aware of the real situation so you can check yourself more effectively every time this shit happens and with experience, it happens less and less because you become in control of your "feelings" more and more.

that's what you (we) need bro -- tame that rainbow-ejaculating, poetry-gushing, diaper-wearing romantic cupid creature from within you (us) and realize the fact that any attraction we men feel for these broads is simply an expression of nature's hardcoded commands to make more babies.

Mate....thats a great post! Summed it up to be honest. I need to snap out of it! Post of the day for sure