A girl I know saw my online dating profile and offered to help me with it. She's like a 6 and has friend zoned me. I don't care because she lives in my building and I don't want to stir the pot at home.

I shit you not the first thing that comes out of her mouth is "I'm really good at online dating!"

I check out her profile. For starters she has a red dot for never replying to messages. A description of how smart she is followed by a laundry list of demands including the typical "put more effort in your message than I did in my entire profile." command. Photo's are of her cleavage.

This is a really interesting look into the psyche of the female online dater. She thinks she is a genius at online dating when her profile is a carbon copy of all the other female profiles.

She gets a bunch of messages every day, responds to basically none of them and this makes her think she's a good online dater. Online dating really is just an ego enhancer for many of these women. Really shocking to hear it from the horses mouth.

Also she is willfully ignorant of gender roles. She honest to god has no idea that she is getting all these messages just because she is a chick. No clue. She really thinks it's because she's "good at online dating". I tried to explain it to her and it almost turned into an argument so I quickly backed down because who needs that shit from a chick you aren't even banging.

Mind Blown.

Most girls (at least in this part of the world) live their lives in an alternate reality and will not ever see things for the way they truly are. Do not bother trying to debate or enlighten them, you will convince them of absolutely nothing and will probably only get yourself labeled as "creepy" or a woman-hater for daring to suggest anything that contradicts their world view, no matter how logical what you say may be.

If attention, adoration, money, and opportunity were handed to you on a platter from birth, and you lived in a bubble never facing true adversity or hardship, don't you think your frame of reference would be different than it is now?

Born on third base, thinks she hit a triple.

Flip the script.

Have her create an online profile for you, give her whatever pictures she likes best, then give her complete control of your profile. Give her access to her messages, whatever. Find some measure of success and you will pay her $500 when you achieve that measure of success.

You will never have to pay her. Unless she cheats. You will have to suss that out on your own.

Actually, don't offer any money. Challenge her pride. Sounds like she's very hung up on her idea of success and has no idea what the opposite end of the spectrum entails.

I was talking to this single mom who's below my league.
She expected me to Wait for her because she has kids and doesn't get free time often.
We are talking about several weeks just to meet a single mom for first time.
I told her 'your behavior is not acceptable' and she said the popular phrase 'but I have kids!'
I asked if guys at match, bend over like that and she said guys are ok with that.

But can I really blame her???
In the end, it's the guys who spoiled her.

Those are the guys who will say 'huh? you hit on girls in public? lol' and act like they don't do Such things because they have dignities.
Those are the guys who will socialize with just guys at bars and make comments on guys hitting on girls.
But how would they satisfy their desire in the end? By logging on online dating sites to hit on a woman with a click of a button and worship the fuck out of her.

I don't have any respects for those cockroaches.

They really do believe it though. I've been planning to do a piece on ROK that includes a story about a girl I know (who, incidentally, I banged on the first date) who later started a consultancy where she charges men a fee to review and then--for more money--re-write their profiles.

She maintains her own profile (mainly as an advertisement for her business) and it's complete shit full of try-hard jokes and played-out cliches that are every other chick's profile.

The delusion of these women is boundless.

Being good at online dating? What the F does that even mean? You're good at getting profile views and emails because you were smart enough to put a decent picture of you on your profile. That's what it is! Heck no need for a picture, just click "woman seeking man" and you'll get interest.

Also, one of the thing that irritates me the most about online dating is the way we call it: Online. It makes the whole phenomenon sound like some space adventure in an unknown universe. That's why we can never stress it enough: get the lizard out of the screen asap because she's in no hurry of leaving that perfect online world of hers.

My current gf and I actually met online. Again, I hate to use the word since we spent so little time on the damn site. A total of 5 messages were exchanged, phone numbers were swapped and we met the next day. We're also both pretty honest about it: neither of us can remember a word of what the other's profile said, it was just hot pictures.

Quote: (10-04-2013 05:13 AM)aphelion Wrote:  

Flip the script.

Have her create an online profile for you, give her whatever pictures she likes best, then give her complete control of your profile. Give her access to her messages, whatever. Find some measure of success and you will pay her $500 when you achieve that measure of success.

You will never have to pay her. Unless she cheats. You will have to suss that out on your own.

This would be hilarious. I can't even imagine how absolutely awful a woman would do at trying to pick up chicks online with an average man's pictures. The failure would be mindblowing to them. Imagine they profiles they would write, the pickup lines and messages they would use. I think many women would literally be driven to tears by the sheer level of rejection they would experience, because they've lived their entire lives in the female bubble, which guarantees them a minimal level of attention from men. But men, on the other hand, enjoy no such benefit. The average man must fight and claw for every scrap of attention from women. I'm not even joking when I say that if you somehow forced women to experience the constant rejection that men live with every day, 90% of them would get so depressed they wouldn't be able to get out of bed in the morning.

Quote: (10-04-2013 12:49 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

This would be hilarious. I can't even imagine how absolutely awful a woman would do at trying to pick up chicks online with an average man's pictures. The failure would be mindblowing to them. Imagine they profiles they would write, the pickup lines and messages they would use. I think many women would literally be driven to tears by the sheer level of rejection they would experience, because they've lived their entire lives in the female bubble, which guarantees them a minimal level of attention from men. But men, on the other hand, enjoy no such benefit. The average man must fight and claw for every scrap of attention from women. I'm not even joking when I say that if you somehow forced women to experience the constant rejection that men live with every day, 90% of them would get so depressed they wouldn't be able to get out of bed in the morning.

I used to get hurt by rejection.

Then I had a moment where the thoughts churning in my head crystallized, and it all became clear.

Men get to create their own lives. Women live through the lives of other men.

I would rather face failure and be free, than to live in the shadow of others.

lol womens online game consists of saying "hi"

Other common female delusions include-

being smart

being funny

being a good friend

being good at sex

I'm a online dating expert.

Quote: (10-04-2013 12:25 PM)Jura Wrote:  

Being good at online dating? What the F does that even mean?

If you are a woman, I think being good at online dating is having a stable of guys who are smarter and more attractive than you are.

If you are a man and have good online game, you are able to get sluts to come over to your house and fuck you as a first date, as well as having a harem of hot women on rotation.

Quote: (10-04-2013 02:31 PM)w00t Wrote:  

lol womens online game consists of saying "hi" being willing

I was talking with this slam pig a while back. The look on her face was that of utter shock when I told her that my conversion rate is about 2%. Then I showed her this video:

Quote: (10-04-2013 12:49 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

Quote: (10-04-2013 05:13 AM)aphelion Wrote:  

Flip the script.

Have her create an online profile for you, give her whatever pictures she likes best, then give her complete control of your profile. Give her access to her messages, whatever. Find some measure of success and you will pay her $500 when you achieve that measure of success.

You will never have to pay her. Unless she cheats. You will have to suss that out on your own.

This would be hilarious. I can't even imagine how absolutely awful a woman would do at trying to pick up chicks online with an average man's pictures. The failure would be mindblowing to them. Imagine they profiles they would write, the pickup lines and messages they would use. I think many women would literally be driven to tears by the sheer level of rejection they would experience, because they've lived their entire lives in the female bubble, which guarantees them a minimal level of attention from men. But men, on the other hand, enjoy no such benefit. The average man must fight and claw for every scrap of attention from women. I'm not even joking when I say that if you somehow forced women to experience the constant rejection that men live with every day, 90% of them would get so depressed they wouldn't be able to get out of bed in the morning.

Trudat has a "pussy secretary" messaging girls on filipinocupid. She's actually awesome at her job. Has girls coming straight to his condo. Even texts them etc. Just goes in "boss, you got a girl coming over here at 2pm"

He smashes her and then goes back to work.

Of course, it is the phils but still.

^^^Tim Ferris did something of the sort. Stacked back to back dates for coffee-shops up and down the same street in San Jose (every hour different venue).

Had secretary msg the girls "Mr Tim Ferris requests your company for coffee" or something of the sorts. These girls were chosen based on criterion of looks, interests, hobbies etc.

Secretary then type up the excel spreadsheet and gave it to him.

I think he did 4-5 dates per day, till he met his GF. Heard that story, and gave him instant kudos for the hustle. Dude is a born hustler.

Chicks always think they're great at dating and relationships. Which is why and how they blame men for all the failures.

I put a fake profile on POF recently w/a guy who looked like an Abercrombie model and I got 1-2 messages a day and about 20 girls a day clicking on my profile. The profile basically said nothing. What I found entertaining was the girls who send the messages - typically no more then 8 words - were delusional fat pigs if they thought they actually had a chance w/this dude.

This thread is the best.

How many of you would be willing to have someone for $5 a day to run dating website profiles for you and message hot babes?

Quote: (10-04-2013 02:52 PM)Bacchus Wrote:  

being good at sex

If she has to mention it, she isn't.

I recently trolled a fatty...

Me: I am only messaging you because of your assumed willingness to suck cock due to your weight.

Fatty: Believe me just because I'm a bigger girl does not mean I will ever be willing to suck your cock or anyone with such a douche nozzle personality like yours :-)

Quote: (10-04-2013 05:07 PM)teh_skeeze Wrote:  

Quote: (10-04-2013 02:31 PM)w00t Wrote:  

lol womens online game consists of saying "hi" being willing

I was talking with this slam pig a while back. The look on her face was that of utter shock when I told her that my conversion rate is about 2%. Then I showed her this video:

Skeeze man, did she like it?

I tried to help a few women get a better grasp of reality by discussing and showing them some soft gamey stuff... the ugly ones almost always blatantly thought it was all BS...some of the pretty ones converted, but not sure it stuck for too many of them.

These days I don't talk about game with girls at all. Its pretty much useless and makes them weird.

@sharkie

She got a kick out of the video as it put things in a way that I couldn't. The reason the conversation came about was I was trying to get her into a threesome. In order to do that though I needed her help (i.e. her being there and being part of the approach). I could easily get other girls to have sex with me, but that doesn't mean that they would want her joining in. She started to learn when I had her pulling girls numbers and she would always get ignored when she would text. It's all good though, she never really wanted the threesome. She just wanted to do it because I wanted it. I don't usually bring up game theory around women, no good ever comes of it.

The reason for the power imbalance on online dating sites is because most men are too scared to approach in real life, and online is a way to dodge that responsibility. You have a ton of guys online who are thirsty for pussy but have not the courage to approach in the real world. The demand for pussy well exceeds the supply of pussy, so the price of pussy rises. Inflation. 6s are treated like 9s. Then they cop attitudes. They start listing demands and shit. They think they really are 9s. Guys who are better looking than them, fitter, more intelligent and so on, grovel for their affection.

All women have to do to be good at online dating us post a pic than demonstrates they can pass a boner test.