Quote: (09-11-2013 12:41 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

Wen you talk about what things should be, you may be right and admirable, but often the hope for change is delusional.

In this case I would be happy to to settle for blame being apportioned where it is deserved. There are too many people giving Nitasha, Anil, and their progressive cybermob a pass for their culpability in the whole affair and in so doing are corrupting the core values of free speech that allows them to have their bully platforms in the first place.

If someone has an expensive watch stolen in a mugging, you can point out that it might have been unwise to wear that watch in a dangerous neighborhood, but you don't excuse the thief-- not in a healthy society and economy that does not accept thievery.

Getting the blame right in this one situation is hardly the same thing as achieving a free speech utopia where no one ever overreacts to anything and no one ever makes a bad decision.

Quote: (09-10-2013 09:30 PM)TheRookie Wrote:  

Also, here is a collage of the degenerates attacking Pax Dickinson on Twitter. A lot of them had the temerity to insult his look!

Oh, not all of those girls are ugly. For example:

   
Would bang unless she's a secret internet fattie (SIF), but she doesn't look like one.

   
This one is probably a SIF, but if she's not, I would bang her.

Quote: (09-10-2013 11:20 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Masculine men have no place in the office. They never have.

Unless its their own.

You lose first amendment rights as a corporate hack, anyone that doesn't get this is playing with fire.

I grew up with girls like this, Indian liberals. One was a PETA protester who was thrown in jail for 10 years. She was the nerdiest bookworm growing up. Turned into a monster.

Geoffrey Miller got into trouble a few months back for tweeting this: “Dear obese PhD applicants: if you didn’t have the willpower to stop eating carbs, you won’t have the willpower to do a dissertation #truth.”

What followed was a big row, similar to Pax's. He apologized, many times, but it didn't help and then he didn't come online Twitter anymore. He hasn't been online since. Latest news was that he couldn't do any PhD hiring anymore, had to do sensitivity training and lost his position at NYC. He didn't lose his main professorship (yet). I looked at discussions by his critics, and their arguments. When I read beyond the rage, there was not much meat *there* qua arguments. Most of his critics were fat women with fantasies of PhD doctorates. It was all butthurt. Others who were outraged at Miller were gays, white knights, nerds and the like. The usual suspects.

I'm agitated at this Pax affair because it has the signature of a frenzy of fanatics. There's a method, you find some random guy who said something progs don't like, get it on a blogging site and the outraged sheeple come and attack. They make much noise on twitter, blogs, facebook or whateve, mail employers and the guy gets fired. This beast never sleeps or rests, it is always out for fresh virgin blood of new offenders. Can you imagine some prog ever saying: well, that was enough!

Yeah, Pax can be tasteless. True. But that's missing the point here. What's happening here is the becoming of a new mechanism that will get guys like us here fired for what we wrote today -- like Paula Deen was. There's little doubt in my mind that in 10-15 years all pseudonyms will be coupled to IP addresses and real names. Everything is being stored today anyway. Don't think we're protected by FoS or anything like it. The culture has changed, FoS can only exist in its full form when there's also some restraint among your adverseries, an impulse to agree to disagree.

Quote: (09-11-2013 03:03 PM)puckman Wrote:  

Quote: (09-10-2013 11:20 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Masculine men have no place in the office. They never have.

Unless its their own.

You lose first amendment rights as a corporate hack, anyone that doesn't get this is playing with fire.

I grew up with girls like this, Indian liberals. One was a PETA protester who was thrown in jail for 10 years. She was the nerdiest bookworm growing up. Turned into a monster.

Exactly. Everyone with an office job knows it doesn't take much to get fired in this country. At-will employment like I said.

All this fool had to do was take ONE extra step of going anonymous and this thread and all of these articles would never happen.

Most people - at least the ones who like their paychecks - understand this. Personal responsibility. No way around it.

Making excuses for people who choose to fuck up is ridiculous.

Quote: (09-11-2013 11:42 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

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Better to save your energy for a real fight for a guy who actually gives a fuck about his job and well-being, not this clown.

There will be a case worth fighting for in the future. My diving into the Pax event has given me some experience on how to react when there is more on the line.

Can you share some of this advice?

Quote: (09-11-2013 03:13 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Most people - at least the ones who like their paychecks - understand this. Personal responsibility. No way around it.

he seems like a smart adrenaline junkie, this will probably force him to deal with it, start a company(not work for someone with his 'handicap'), get really fucking rich, then tweet like this again on a boat.

In my last company, the VP Marketing was an avowed Republican. Tweeting about it all day long. The CEO of that company was buying his way into White House dinners, taking every picture he could with Obama. The company was growing 20% quarter over quarter, very successful. Guess who mysteriously didn't have a job one day?

Anyone who flaunts this and doesn't get this is arrogantly stupid, or, they just dont care about the job.

It's a shame that he was raped by a pack of naggers. But it was partially his fault.

(Giant hook emerges from behind curtain, yanks me offstage.)

He already started a new company

http://getglimpse.com/

https://twitter.com/NeilJEdmondson/statu...6112082944

Leukophobia is a big word

dupe

Quote: (09-11-2013 03:21 PM)puckman Wrote:  

Quote: (09-11-2013 03:13 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Most people - at least the ones who like their paychecks - understand this. Personal responsibility. No way around it.

he seems like a smart adrenaline junkie, this will probably force him to deal with it, start a company(not work for someone with his 'handicap'), get really fucking rich, then tweet like this again on a boat.

In my last company, the VP Marketing was an avowed Republican. Tweeting about it all day long. The CEO of that company was buying his way into White House dinners, taking every picture he could with Obama. The company was growing 20% quarter over quarter, very successful. Guess who mysteriously didn't have a job one day?

Anyone who flaunts this and doesn't get this is arrogantly stupid, or, they just dont care about the job.

True. Though one of the few places you can get away with reckless behavior like that is the Federal Government. Man, I have some of the craziest stories from people I know in DC.

There was one notable case recently that actually made national news. I was going to post it on the forum but I didn't want to start another race thread.

Believe it or not, this dude is still employed. He's on paid leave last I heard.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/...ior/68600/

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A Department of Homeland Security employee who works on, among other things, the procurement of guns and ammunition for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, spends his nights and weekends preparing for a coming race war and advocating for anti-gay causes, according to a new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center. Meet Ayo Kimathi, a.k.a. “the Irritated Genie," who told his bosses at the DHS that his anti-white, anti-gay site, "War is on the Horizon," was just an entertainment site that sells concert and lecture videos.

You see, DHS employees, even those with office jobs like Kimathi's, have to get outside activities approved by their supervisors, according to the SPLC. Kimathi's former supervisor told the watchdog group, which tracks hate speech and groups in the U.S., that despite her former employee's banal description of his extracurricular activities, the actual content of the site left her "stunned." She continued: “To see the hate, to know that he is a federal employee, it bothered me." She added that had Kimathi's site been accurately described to the agency, there's no way the DHS would have signed off on it. Possibly to keep his bosses from looking up his work, Kimathi used only the site's acronym, WOH, in his permission request. In addition to his involvement in the purchase of ICE supplies, Kimathi also had a public profile for the agency, speaking at vendor events. As "Irritated Genie," Kimathi also has a public profile as a black supremacist advocate.

The content of Kimathi's advocacy demands some clarification. In some (white, conservative) circles, the term "black supremacist" is applied with a very wide brush. Black supremacy was the implication of Maine Governor Paul LePage's reported comments that President Obama "hates white people," for instance. Kimathi's site is not in this vein of this imagined threat — on the contrary, War on the Horizon calls Obama a "a treasonous mulatto scum dweller," and lists him among the movement's enemies (also on the list? Oprah Winfrey, Whoopi Goldberg, and Condoleezza Rice, among others) Instead, the DHS employee advocates for:

The mass murder of white people. His site says, "warfare is eminent, and in order for Black people to survive the 21st century, we are going to have to kill a lot of whites – more than our christian hearts can possibly count."
A conspiracy theory arguing that white people are trying to "homosexualize" black men in order to make them more effeminate and therefore weaker. As part of this, Kimathi, praises a series of laws in some African countries that criminalize LGBT behavior and people. Kimathi also advocates for the supremacy of black men above black women — he offers tips on his site, for instance, "to help every Black woman in the world understand what she needs to do to keep a strong Black man happy."
Conservatives don't tend to be fans of the Southern Poverty Law Center: this is the same group that labeled The American Family Association and pretty much the entire anti-Islam movement as hate groups. But their report seems primed to stoke the fires of a set of American conservatives who already believe the DHS is hoarding ammunition (contrary to the evidence), either to build a secret army, or to prevent gun owners from accessing it.

Update: ICE's Deputy Press Secretary Gillian Christensen responded in a statement to this story:

ICE does not condone any type of hateful rhetoric or advocacy of violence of any kind against anyone. Every ICE employee is held to the highest standard of professional and ethical conduct. Accusations of misconduct are investigated thoroughly and if substantiated, appropriate action is taken.
Christensen declined to comment, as a matter of ICE policy, on whether the agency was currently investigating Kimathi or not.

Update Monday, August 26: As of Friday, Ayo Kimathi was placed on administrative leave, according to ICE spokesperson Gillian Christensen, who denied that Kimathi was directly responsible for the purchase of ammunition for the agency, where he's worked since 2009. He's also been posting on Facebook about the increased media attention, as the Southern Poverty Law Center noted: "The war is on! The smallhats (white so-called jews) have stepped it up," he wrote. The SPLC explains:

Less than 48 hours after Kimathi was put on leave, the Facebook page for WOH declared that “the Irritated Genie is under attack from the zionist smallhats, the Uncle Tom koons, the white-sex offenders, the haters, the conspiracy theorists, etc. … Our website is getting flooded with traffic at the moment, but we expect the owner of our hosting to terminate our website any day now.”
The Facebook posting also says “the smallhats” have “canceled our internet business account. Therefore, we can no longer sell our products on the internet.
“So since we cannot sell them to our people,” the post continues, “we’ll simply give them to you and ask you to share them with your Black friends and family all across the world.”

I heard this guy was either forced to take it down or lose his job. It caught so much heat from the media that they had to do something about it. If it hadn't I doubt nothing would have been done.

Quote: (09-11-2013 03:41 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Quote: (09-11-2013 03:21 PM)puckman Wrote:  

Quote: (09-11-2013 03:13 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Most people - at least the ones who like their paychecks - understand this. Personal responsibility. No way around it.

he seems like a smart adrenaline junkie, this will probably force him to deal with it, start a company(not work for someone with his 'handicap'), get really fucking rich, then tweet like this again on a boat.

In my last company, the VP Marketing was an avowed Republican. Tweeting about it all day long. The CEO of that company was buying his way into White House dinners, taking every picture he could with Obama. The company was growing 20% quarter over quarter, very successful. Guess who mysteriously didn't have a job one day?

Anyone who flaunts this and doesn't get this is arrogantly stupid, or, they just dont care about the job.

True. Though one of the few places you can get away with reckless behavior like that is the Federal Government. Man, I have some of the craziest stories from people I know in DC.

There was one notable case recently that actually made national news. I was going to post it on the forum but I didn't want to start another race thread.

Believe it or not, this dude is still employed. He's on paid leave last I heard.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/...ior/68600/

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A Department of Homeland Security employee who works on, among other things, the procurement of guns and ammunition for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, spends his nights and weekends preparing for a coming race war and advocating for anti-gay causes, according to a new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center. Meet Ayo Kimathi, a.k.a. “the Irritated Genie," who told his bosses at the DHS that his anti-white, anti-gay site, "War is on the Horizon," was just an entertainment site that sells concert and lecture videos.

You see, DHS employees, even those with office jobs like Kimathi's, have to get outside activities approved by their supervisors, according to the SPLC. Kimathi's former supervisor told the watchdog group, which tracks hate speech and groups in the U.S., that despite her former employee's banal description of his extracurricular activities, the actual content of the site left her "stunned." She continued: “To see the hate, to know that he is a federal employee, it bothered me." She added that had Kimathi's site been accurately described to the agency, there's no way the DHS would have signed off on it. Possibly to keep his bosses from looking up his work, Kimathi used only the site's acronym, WOH, in his permission request. In addition to his involvement in the purchase of ICE supplies, Kimathi also had a public profile for the agency, speaking at vendor events. As "Irritated Genie," Kimathi also has a public profile as a black supremacist advocate.

The content of Kimathi's advocacy demands some clarification. In some (white, conservative) circles, the term "black supremacist" is applied with a very wide brush. Black supremacy was the implication of Maine Governor Paul LePage's reported comments that President Obama "hates white people," for instance. Kimathi's site is not in this vein of this imagined threat — on the contrary, War on the Horizon calls Obama a "a treasonous mulatto scum dweller," and lists him among the movement's enemies (also on the list? Oprah Winfrey, Whoopi Goldberg, and Condoleezza Rice, among others) Instead, the DHS employee advocates for:

The mass murder of white people. His site says, "warfare is eminent, and in order for Black people to survive the 21st century, we are going to have to kill a lot of whites – more than our christian hearts can possibly count."
A conspiracy theory arguing that white people are trying to "homosexualize" black men in order to make them more effeminate and therefore weaker. As part of this, Kimathi, praises a series of laws in some African countries that criminalize LGBT behavior and people. Kimathi also advocates for the supremacy of black men above black women — he offers tips on his site, for instance, "to help every Black woman in the world understand what she needs to do to keep a strong Black man happy."
Conservatives don't tend to be fans of the Southern Poverty Law Center: this is the same group that labeled The American Family Association and pretty much the entire anti-Islam movement as hate groups. But their report seems primed to stoke the fires of a set of American conservatives who already believe the DHS is hoarding ammunition (contrary to the evidence), either to build a secret army, or to prevent gun owners from accessing it.

Update: ICE's Deputy Press Secretary Gillian Christensen responded in a statement to this story:

ICE does not condone any type of hateful rhetoric or advocacy of violence of any kind against anyone. Every ICE employee is held to the highest standard of professional and ethical conduct. Accusations of misconduct are investigated thoroughly and if substantiated, appropriate action is taken.
Christensen declined to comment, as a matter of ICE policy, on whether the agency was currently investigating Kimathi or not.

Update Monday, August 26: As of Friday, Ayo Kimathi was placed on administrative leave, according to ICE spokesperson Gillian Christensen, who denied that Kimathi was directly responsible for the purchase of ammunition for the agency, where he's worked since 2009. He's also been posting on Facebook about the increased media attention, as the Southern Poverty Law Center noted: "The war is on! The smallhats (white so-called jews) have stepped it up," he wrote. The SPLC explains:

Less than 48 hours after Kimathi was put on leave, the Facebook page for WOH declared that “the Irritated Genie is under attack from the zionist smallhats, the Uncle Tom koons, the white-sex offenders, the haters, the conspiracy theorists, etc. … Our website is getting flooded with traffic at the moment, but we expect the owner of our hosting to terminate our website any day now.”
The Facebook posting also says “the smallhats” have “canceled our internet business account. Therefore, we can no longer sell our products on the internet.
“So since we cannot sell them to our people,” the post continues, “we’ll simply give them to you and ask you to share them with your Black friends and family all across the world.”

Dupe - getting the BB error message when I refresh and when I hit the back button it causes the dupe. taking a break..

Quote: (09-11-2013 03:53 PM)puckman Wrote:  

I heard this guy was either forced to take it down or lose his job. It caught so much heat from the media that they had to do something about it. If it hadn't I doubt nothing would have been done.

Very difficult to fire someone working for the Fed. In any at-will company, this dude would have been let go asap.

I even knew a guy at the Fed who was pulled over for speeding and arrested after a cop smelled and found weed in his car. They threw him in a holding cell for the night and told his employer. He only had to do one year of drug counseling and then went back to smoking again. Never lost his job. This dude makes six figures and only "works" 40 hours a week. Even goes to work high.

Those two little informers for the Matrix of political correctness--Anil Dash and the vomitous Nitasha Tiku--are the most sickening specimens I've seen in recent weeks.
They're the types of soul-less, vindictive vermin that are only too willing to play informer for the PC machine. They have an instinctive "feel" for the direction of the political winds and will adapt their behavior and morals in order to better themselves. In reality, Tiku and Dash are pure cutthroat opportunists. They'd sell out anyone and anything to become commissars in the ruling orthodoxy.
This rat-like survival instinct is what allows them to turn off their humanity with the flick of a switch, and help push a random guy into the furnace. They don't care.
When I look into the faces of these two informers, Dash and Tiku, I see pure opportunism. No idealism, no principles, nothing. The eyes tell all. And I know the rats and informers when I see them. I can always tell.
The proof's in the eyes, Chico.
Now you know why, once oppressive systems are overthrown, informers, traitors, and spies are dragged through the streets and hanged by an enraged populace.

Quote: (09-11-2013 04:02 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Quote: (09-11-2013 03:53 PM)puckman Wrote:  

I heard this guy was either forced to take it down or lose his job. It caught so much heat from the media that they had to do something about it. If it hadn't I doubt nothing would have been done.

Very difficult to fire someone working for the Fed. In any at-will company, this dude would have been let go asap.

I even knew a guy at the Fed who was pulled over for speeding and arrested after a cop smelled and found weed in his car. They threw him in a holding cell for the night and told his employer. He only had to do one year of drug counseling and then went back to smoking again. Never lost his job. This dude makes six figures and only "works" 40 hours a week. Even goes to work high.

My friends at the Army Core of Engineers branch here in Dallas/Ft. Worth had a co-worker who was found guilty of being affiliated in underage porn..whether it be downloading, etc...can't remember the details. Anyways he didn't miss a beat and just got by with some counseling, lol.

It looks like this thread got linked somewhere. 600+ browsing this section of the forum right now, way more than usual.

Probably a bunch of social justice warriors frantically trying to register to start a forum invasion. Too bad fuckers, closed regs!

^ You are right. It got linked by the editor of Boing Boing

https://twitter.com/Beschizza

But then he deleted it after getting a complaint that there were "trigger warnings".

Quote: (09-11-2013 04:38 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

^ You are right. It got linked by the editor of Boing Boing

https://twitter.com/Beschizza

But then he deleted it after getting a complaint that there were "trigger warnings".

I also got retweeted by Popehat, who has 10K followers:

https://twitter.com/Sam_seau/status/377891922506838017

All I had to do was call him a fag

   


Google "Anil Dash racist" and the ROK article tops the list.

@ Rob Beschizza- You emasculated little bitch. You are the ugly version of Jodie Foster.



   

Quote: (09-11-2013 04:38 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

^ You are right. It got linked by the editor of Boing Boing

https://twitter.com/Beschizza

But then he deleted it after getting a complaint that there were "trigger warnings".

Readers got offended by a pack of triggers, and it was his fault.

Quote: (09-11-2013 12:06 PM)Blaster Wrote:  

Indeed-- the Indian woman's speech was decidedly more than mere expression of opinion, it was speech deliberately intended to stir up animosity towards an individual.

It's only Hate Speech if the politically-right's unexamined-prejudices are used to attack their stereotyped bogeymen: blacks, jews, asians, gays, feminists.

The Cognitive Dissonance of the Social Justice crowd means it's not Hate Speech when the politically-left's unexamined-prejudices are used to attack their stereotyped bogeymen: the 1%, Nazis, Southern People, White Males.

Don't bother trying to point it out to them, or they'll scream "It's not the same thing!"

Joel Johnson is trying to bash us? For those who need a refresher, Johnson is the Gawker Media turd who:

1. Posted an enormous whiny article on Gizmodo about how trolls were being mean to him, with choice quotes like this:

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I do have anger issues, you dumb, cruel, entitled, tunneled vision shit eaters. My anger issues are with you, because you are so foul, so unable to use the internet as a thoroughfare for human compassion or—Christ—even just a civil conversation. It's so far beyond your comprehension that perhaps you are rude or simply wrong that you'd dredge up something that has absolutely no bearing on—wait for it—arguments about gadgets.

2. Posted this maudlin, attention whoring, A Child Called 'It'-esque article on his blog about how his stepfather gave him blowjobs and jacked him off when he was a kid, along with helping him steal Game Boys and other expensive electronics from the local Best Buy. (Note I'm not bashing him for getting molested, I'm bashing him for using the story to elicit sympathy from his readers.)

He's the last person on Earth who should be trying to talk down to us.

Popehat is usually a decent guy, I wonder what came over him to gloat over his moral superiority.