I've had a few experiences where I could've had the notch but due to drinking too much and being super tired at 3 am I have to pass up the opportunity because 'little vaughn' has gone to sleep. Can I still count it as a notch? Unfortunately my best game, my only game perhaps, is drunk game.

I almost hit the lottery every week.

it only counts if your penis going into the vagina.

Roosh just wrote "Ego Sex" about the pitfalls of counting notches. Notches might be a reasonable measure of your success, but only if you are not measuring them. Once they become an objective, the measurement is corrupted.

So if you need to get so drunk that you can't perform, then no, it is not a notch. But if the girl is drunk and available, but you decide against it, then yes, you can count it for the purposes of measuring your activity and success level.

Notch is whatever you want it to be, it's just a goal with women and it only matters to yourself really.

I count a new lay/notch as my penis entering a vigina and getting into a rhythm with a girl for the first time.

Cut back on the drink dude.

Quote: (07-17-2013 12:22 AM)NYC_HipsterDouchebag Wrote:  

Notch is whatever you want it to be, it's just a goal with women and it only matters to yourself really.

I second this. It's easy to fall into the trap of viewing sex and game as too much of a literal 'sport'. Everyone has their own definitions of what counts as a 'notch' because we all have slightly different wants and goals.

If your goals are met by getting a blowjob, then by all means, count that as a 'notch'. If you're only satisfied by penetrating a girl's anus while she's upside down dressed in a bunny costume and singing the Welsh national anthem, then count that as your definition.

I've always considered a notch to constitute carrying out any sort of sexual act with the chick.

1 or more vaginal thrusts...

But if I were you, I would be much more concerned with not getting lays because you're too plastered, rather than the definition of a notch.

I bet you'll feel more successful once you're able to game and escalate with girls when you're sober, even if you dont go as far. It's a better feeling than getting too fucked up and knowing why you blew it again...

Drunk game? No problem.....add redbull or aderall to the equation. My definition of a notch is penis inserted into vagina.

Quote: (07-16-2013 03:51 PM)Vaughn Wrote:  

I've had a few experiences where I could've had the notch but due to drinking too much and being super tired at 3 am I have to pass up the opportunity because 'little vaughn' has gone to sleep. Can I still count it as a notch? Unfortunately my best game, my only game perhaps, is drunk game.

Just pop limp little vaughn in there and you are passed the finish line.

Quote: (07-16-2013 05:54 PM)Divorco Wrote:  

Roosh just wrote "Ego Sex" about the pitfalls of counting notches. Notches might be a reasonable measure of your success, but only if you are not measuring them. Once they become an objective, the measurement is corrupted.

So if you need to get so drunk that you can't perform, then no, it is not a notch. But if the girl is drunk and available, but you decide against it, then yes, you can count it for the purposes of measuring your activity and success level.

Notches don't mean anything. I stopped counting a while ago. The only measure of success is the ability to have sex on demand. You should have 2-4 girls in your rotation. If one starts going cold you cut her loose and fill her spot with a new one. Game on.

I'd count it as your penis going into her vagina or anus. It only matters at first, really you don't know women until you reach 25ish notches.

full stroke penis insertion into vagina.

If you got your dick inside her, it's a notch

Quote: (07-18-2013 11:33 AM)20Nation Wrote:  

If you got your dick inside her, it's a notch

this is why full stroke is helpful.

'inside her vagina' is such a hard term to pin down when looking for the infinitesimally small line separating penetration and no penetration (less than 1mm).

balls deep there is no vague grey area.

I look at it from a biological standpoint. Assuming there are no condoms, will you be able to get her pregnant? If you are inside her, yes.