Quote: (02-09-2011 06:07 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

that gross steroid gut that looks like a "ripped" bulging bag of shit.

LMAO - dude, I swear, I did not need that visual!! uuuuggh.

Mixx

This board gets more entertaining everyday.

Ish

There is also a lesson to be learnt here. Never go to country X thinking that since you are Latino/Black/Indian/white etc the women will line up for you on the streets. I didn't really follow BBL's posts so I don't know how big a douche he was but this can happen to the best of us though not to the extent of lashing out on other people for not getting pussy.

I did this for Denmark and had the worst trip of my life. There is more to a country than just pussy and its generally when you start doing the other shit is when pussy becomes easy.

Quote: (02-10-2011 12:39 AM)Mystik Wrote:  

I did this for Denmark and had the worst trip of my life. There is more to a country than just pussy and its generally when you start doing the other shit is when pussy becomes easy.

Managing expectations for yourself is important. Expect to work for pussy, if it comes easier then great.

What do you think went wrong for you in Denmark? What was your impression of Danish girls? What would you do different?

I think the lesson to be learnt here is to do some accurate research and be aware of the likelihood of getting what you want based on HOW YOU LOOK. Some people hate to talk about race but I specifically ask if my particular look will open up doors in the country I go to.
I don't like to work against odds, I like to work with odds.
That's why I like to ask people who look like me how they fared on certain journeys. I know it may seem separatist but that's just the real.

For instance, when I used to go out to certain clubs with my white British friend in England, he would get British pussy just thrown at him without even spitting any sort of game and I would be as charming as fcuk (in my own eyes anyway) but was unable to break down preconceived notions.

Now in other clubs, I felt like king of the castle and women would hang onto my every word..so it's really all about optimizing location vs looks.

From my intake here, it looks like brothers appear to struggle in Columbia or..the women there are flaky as fcuk (just like Toronto).

It's places like that, that I may take a woman to but knowing my luck, that's when the dymes will open up and be begging for the sample.

Agreed. When I was in Slovenia, the mere fact I was latino and my looks were "miami" I did not have to say shit to have women staring me down, and I mean seriously staring me down. They could not make it anymore obvious they were interested in me. One 20 year old girl ran to take a picture with me as if I was a latin soap opera star!

The fact that I was latin literally had her pissing in her pants from the excitement. :/ On the other side of teh coin, be prepared to scrap with local men as they will obviously see the attention you get, and they will NOT like it!

In Colombia I do well, not because of my looks, as everyone is latin too, but because of my extensive knowledge of the culture/language and what buttons need to be pushed to get bangs. It took me a good 10 years to get that good with Colombian women, now I f-close effortlessly.

However, I do not do well in Southern Brazil, because they assume I am a local Brazilian, or know I am some other latino - which is not the euro (gringo) look they go for. However, In Brasilia, and Northern Brazil, I do well.

I also do very well in Canada, especially the French Canadian girls! I must f-close 80% of all white, french-canadian girls I meet.

I also do EXTREMELY well in the inner states: Colorado, Oklahoma, nebraska as well as Alabama, and Texas. I will be checking out MN this summer to see how I fair there.

It all boils down to being different. I have the greatest ease with women, when I am something they do not see every day or every weekend hitting on them. In my case, it would be the whiter, blonde girls.

Now, a gringo in Medellin, Bogota, or Cali; you are something she sees EVERY day in 2011. Maybe in 1990 it was a whole other story, not anymore.

Mixx

Of course there are certain "types" that will have an advantage in certain countries but what I was trying to say is that you should not go with super high expectations because then even small things such as a few arrogant women or a cheat taxi driver will piss you off and you start to take it personally.

I know that French girls like me and in general almost all white girls like me. I had heard a lot of stories about Scandinavian girls being promiscuous and judging from the interest that SWEDISH girls had shown in me in Spain I thought that girls would line for me on the streets in CPH. After Barcelona I though that CPH would be a one big orgy in a big nightclub and that other European cities must easily beat Barca.

I didn't know that the Danish culture was so conservative and girls just act differently when they are in their home country. When I got to Denmark I got ripped off by a taxi driver. Then the next day got into a tussle with a few "pissed off and drunk danes" and by that time I was furious and the girls weren't showing any interest in me (remember i was expecting every girl to jump on me). I tried to make a couple of approaches but nothing happened. All this would have been okay if my expectations very normal or low. Then I started acting needy and things just kept getting worse.

On the last day I said fuck it and just started doing some touristy things and walked around the city and then all of a sudden out of nowhere I got a couple of approaches but by that i had already cut by trip short and was on my way back. Moreover, this positive feedback did not register with me because I was convinced that Danes are asses (no offense to Quasi or any dane here). I was pissed with Danes until last month but then I realized that its just their culture (thanks to Quasi). Now, I plan to give the country another try sometime in the future.

At that time my impression of Danish girls was that they are racist. Now, its that they are conservative and not like Icelandic or Swedish girls. So, next time I would make some local friends and give the city more time and not expect it to be a fuckfest.

@MiXX: You are a very different case. I firmly believe that women have a sixth sense that allows them to judge a guy's experience by his appearance, aura,vibe or whatever you want to call it. So, the pussy that you get, IMO, is more due to the vibe that you give than your Latin looks.

Quote: (02-10-2011 10:57 AM)Mystik Wrote:  

@MiXX: You are a very different case. I firmly believe that women have a sixth sense that allows them to judge a guy's experience by his appearance, aura,vibe or whatever you want to call it. So, the pussy that you get, IMO, is more due to the vibe that you give than your Latin looks.

I would like to agree with you, but again, I have the exact same vibe in RIO and I do not do well in Rio, or Sao Paulo or any southern Brazilian states. I find myself having to work 10x harder to get a mere make-out in Rio than I do in Brasilia. I do very well in Brasilia, and the northern states - again same vibe. Then, I keep hearing my white, blonde freinds telling me how they are making out in minutes with a girl in Rio! WTF? That same white, blond friend will have difficulty in Medellin however. Go figure

Mixx

Mixx wrote:

"It took me a good 10 years to get that good with Colombian women, now I f-close effortlessly."

10 years! Man, so only seven and a half to go to be on your level. Good to know!

Seriously though, culture matters. Everywhere you go is gonna have a different mix of desires, prejudices, idiosyncrasies, mating rituals, and nocturnal habits. If you don't familiarize yourself with the way people tend to think in the places where you game, you are gonna be lost!

Also, getting rejected has to be something you learn from, instead of getting bitter about it. If some girl who hardly knows you rejects you, well, does the really mean all that much in the scheme of things? I just can't wrap my mind around the kind of guy who gets burned and runs to a forum looking for approval for his hurt feelings. Why didn't try opening some other girl that night? Or the next day? Why didn't he ask for some pointers here? A dude on this forum just got a Hatian flag, for crying out loud! There's a wealth of knowledge and advice here. But you have to want to seek it.

Quote: (02-10-2011 11:30 AM)Ajiaco Wrote:  

Mixx wrote:

"It took me a good 10 years to get that good with Colombian women, now I f-close effortlessly."

10 years! Man, so only seven and a half to go to be on your level. Good to know!

Seriously though, culture matters. Everywhere you go is gonna have a different mix of desires, prejudices, idiosyncrasies, mating rituals, and nocturnal habits. If you don't familiarize yourself with the way people tend to think in the places where you game, you are gonna be lost!

Also, getting rejected has to be something you learn from, instead of getting bitter about it. If some girl who hardly knows you rejects you, well, does the really mean all that much in the scheme of things? I just can't wrap my mind around the kind of guy who gets burned and runs to a forum looking for approval for his hurt feelings. Why didn't try opening some other girl that night? Or the next day? Why didn't he ask for some pointers here? A dude on this forum just got a Hatian flag, for crying out loud! There's a wealth of knowledge and advice here. But you have to want to seek it.

That's real talk there, fam. The best way to get over someone is under another person. That goes exactly the same for approaching. Just keep approaching until something happens.

We are soldiers. Rejection is our blood. A soldier that is scared of blood will gain no grounds and capture no territory.

A seasoned adult that is knocked down by no's and put off by flaky hags will capture no ass.

Hahaha at least he gave me a good laugh. He must have thought that he would have pussy lined up and ready for him 24/7 in Colombia, despite claiming to having been there multiple times in the past. What a weak and pathetic fella, kinda saw it comming.

Quote: (02-10-2011 09:43 AM)Moma Wrote:  

I think the lesson to be learnt here is to do some accurate research and be aware of the likelihood of getting what you want based on HOW YOU LOOK. Some people hate to talk about race but I specifically ask if my particular look will open up doors in the country I go to.
I don't like to work against odds, I like to work with odds.
That's why I like to ask people who look like me how they fared on certain journeys. I know it may seem separatist but that's just the real.

You're basically speaking my mantra, brother. I'm always talking about race-specific game and locations. I think guys sometimes talk about race in the wrong way and piss people off in the process, but I'm a big proponent of keeping it (along with other determinants like region and culture) in the discussion.

There's no question that certain demographics respond to me more than others. I can adjust my game and look, within a certain range, depending on the audience to enhance my chances, but there are certain built-in biases and proclivities I have to deal with. Urban Latina game is a completely different animal than, to use Mixx's example, French-Canadian girls (which incidentally, I do well with also--thank goodness).

Well love him or hate him, Bootylvr had some valid points. Not that I agree with how he went after some of the dudes on here but still..my question is this:

Why is it that after he is now gone some of you guys are stepping up and talking shit about him? You had your chance a loooong time ago, why didnt some of you guys step up and let him have it then? Some dudes here sat by when he was calling out other members and now that he's gone you want to be all funny.

Point is this, Roosh is the mod here but we need to police ourselves. You think someone is out of line call him on it. Don't wait till it festers and blows up and ends up like this, then start with the goodbyes, good riddance etc. Call a dude out if you dont like what he says guys there are of course right and wrong ways to do it. But speak your word and move on.

C'mon Rocco, BBL would have lost his shit and just gotten himself banned earlier if anyone had said something to him. At least this way he just burned himself out.

Quote: (02-09-2011 12:20 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Yesterday I sent him this:

Quote:Quote:

I'm getting several complaints about your negative attitude, that you're "bringing the forum down." I remember asking you nicely before to tone it down.

Look, no matter how cool or whatever you are, this is a community, and if you can't tone it down and play nice that I'll have to ask you to leave.

His reply:

Quote:Quote:

hey fuck off geico cave man. You are an idiot and can't even get laid in SA, yet you run your fucking mouth like you are some player. Hilarious.

Since you are censoring me, now it is my turn to strike back. buckle up hippy i'm about to straight fuck u up

To me it looks like his recent tough time of getting played by colombian women and taxi drivers sent him over the edge, no matter how many of us tried to help him.

LLLLOOOOOOLLLLL

"You're basically speaking my mantra, brother. I'm always talking about race-specific game and locations. I think guys sometimes talk about race in the wrong way and piss people off in the process, but I'm a big proponent of keeping it (along with other determinants like region and culture) in the discussion.

There's no question that certain demographics respond to me more than others. I can adjust my game and look, within a certain range, depending on the audience to enhance my chances, but there are certain built-in biases and proclivities I have to deal with. Urban Latina game is a completely different animal than, to use Mixx's example, French-Canadian girls (which incidentally, I do well with also--thank goodness)."

My only problem with the race-specific game advice is some people on here take it too far...like discouraging others to travel somewhere because the "ladies don't feel for XXXX guys there."

Not everyone is the same. I have had success where other guys of my same background (Hispanic) have said I would not, so I largely discount race-specific game advice for the most part.

Also, conversely, some guys will make a travel decision based on race-specific advice and find out when they get there that the info wasn't as reliable as some people thought.

For example, Roosh was under the impression that he would be considered "exotic" in Iceland, yet when he got there he claimed that everyone talked to him in Icelandic thinking he was a local (he tweeted this).

I do look at race-specific information for a given country...but only at a surface level....meaning that I won't be immediately disqualified because of it. I really do not care if a certain country's women are all googly-eyed on black men (like myself) because sometimes they expect a certain "carbon copy type of what is on TV" and I don't fit that bill.

I know the mindset of women on university campuses, corporate and the in general. If you are a guy, that they can see themselves with long-term or marriage-material....the game (I kind of hate that word) is the same.

Quote: (02-11-2011 01:10 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

I do look at race-specific information for a given country...but only at a surface level....meaning that I won't be immediately disqualified because of it. I really do not care if a certain country's women are all googly-eyed on black men (like myself) because sometimes they expect a certain "carbon copy type of what is on TV" and I don't fit that bill.

I know the mindset of women on university campuses, corporate and the in general. If you are a guy, that they can see themselves with long-term or marriage-material....the game (I kind of hate that word) is the same.

I am very cognizant of whether my 'kind' is accepted in a country or not. It's stupid and arrogant to think that one can overcome people's perceptions in a short period of time.

I go on vacation to relax and work with the current..not against the current.

And if women expect a carbon copy of what's on tv, what do you care? Are you going to marry them? You are going to fcuk them and they know it..they don't give a shyt about whether you are there to last.
Let them have their fantasies as long as it doesn't compromise your character too much.

In DR, a few women asked me if I was a professional basketball player. I only said no because I didn't want them sweating me for dollars.

But if saying that raised my DHV in their eyes, then I'm Kobe Bryant (fcuk if they know the difference).

As I proceed further into game, I am learning to get off of my high horse and while not compromising absolute values and principles, not to take shyt too seriously.

I don't mind if they think I am a rapper as long as they don't get me to do some illegal rapper shyt (like smuggle guns through or go and negotiate the price of weed and yayo with some local drug dealer).

But if she wants me to wear a durag, tuck a blunt behind my ear and spit some gangsta flows to get her puzzy wet so we can fcuk, then I'll do it.

It's not my regular behaviour but it doesn't compromise my value system either.

Same here, I get ask if like Puerto Rican Reggeaton music in Canada, Slovenia, and typical white girls from midwest on vacation here in Miami. The local girls in these countries assume that it is my strong point. Actually, I can name the songs I like in Reggetaon in one hand, I'm more techno. However, teaching a slovenian girl to dance reggeaton got her pussy really boiling - so I did it.

Mixx

Quote: (02-11-2011 01:37 PM)Moma Wrote:  

Quote: (02-11-2011 01:10 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

I do look at race-specific information for a given country...but only at a surface level....meaning that I won't be immediately disqualified because of it. I really do not care if a certain country's women are all googly-eyed on black men (like myself) because sometimes they expect a certain "carbon copy type of what is on TV" and I don't fit that bill.

I know the mindset of women on university campuses, corporate and the in general. If you are a guy, that they can see themselves with long-term or marriage-material....the game (I kind of hate that word) is the same.

I am very cognizant of whether my 'kind' is accepted in a country or not. It's stupid and arrogant to think that one can overcome people's perceptions in a short period of time.

I go on vacation to relax and work with the current..not against the current.

And if women expect a carbon copy of what's on tv, what do you care? Are you going to marry them? You are going to fcuk them and they know it..they don't give a shyt about whether you are there to last.
Let them have their fantasies as long as it doesn't compromise your character too much.

In DR, a few women asked me if I was a professional basketball player. I only said no because I didn't want them sweating me for dollars.

But if saying that raised my DHV in their eyes, then I'm Kobe Bryant (fcuk if they know the difference).

As I proceed further into game, I am learning to get off of my high horse and while not compromising absolute values and principles, not to take shyt too seriously.

I don't mind if they think I am a rapper as long as they don't get me to do some illegal rapper shyt (like smuggle guns through or go and negotiate the price of weed and yayo with some local drug dealer).

But if she wants me to wear a durag, tuck a blunt behind my ear and spit some gangsta flows to get her puzzy wet so we can fcuk, then I'll do it.

It's not my regular behaviour but it doesn't compromise my value system either.

I have nothing against that. There are always different ways to skin a cat.

Quote: (02-09-2011 01:24 AM)bigbootyluvr Wrote:  

Look, in martial arts we throw guys in the ring or the mat (the lab) to see what is REAL and what can be discarded. A lot of shit on this board is fake marketing and I highly doubt anyone but a few of us have even been to Colombia or thailand.
bb'lver

I find it hilariously ironic that this guy uses martial arts as a reference point for differentiating between real and fake. I kind of makes you wonder about his perspective on everything. Go take up wrestling and/or boxing and then come back and be a tough guy after 4-5 years of getting your ass handed to you. Your reference point might work then. Or maybe your too heavily invested in your katas and your green belt.

"clr: "
Uncle sam was nice enough to permanently hire one of Royce Gracies cousins to train our office"

AHAHAHAHHAHA! i beat jar heads asses like you at least once a week. Stupid marines or army dogs who think since they had some sloppy bjj taught to them by some royce gracie affiliate that they are some badass. We literally choke these motherfuckers unconscious and throw them in front of the garbage bin in front of my garbage bin. All that said, a week or two of gracie combatives won't really help you in the thick of a bar fight. You need solid boxing, muay thai, grappling, and experience and awareness. The truth is I get sick of guys like you that put in a little time in military combatives and think you are a tough guy. You are a beginner who doesn't know how to wipe his own ass yet in my world.

That said, awareness is key." - bigbootyluvr

This was posted by bigbootyluvr on another thread. It pretty much turned me off to his posts. Guys that talk this shit usually are envious of the military b/c they didn't make it through the processing of got their ass beat by a Marine at some point. His only "experience" apparently is bouncing at a bar. These outbursts made me suspicious of "roid rage".

Quote: (02-11-2011 03:48 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

"clr: "
Uncle sam was nice enough to permanently hire one of Royce Gracies cousins to train our office"

AHAHAHAHHAHA! i beat jar heads asses like you at least once a week. Stupid marines or army dogs who think since they had some sloppy bjj taught to them by some royce gracie affiliate that they are some badass. We literally choke these motherfuckers unconscious and throw them in front of the garbage bin in front of my garbage bin. All that said, a week or two of gracie combatives won't really help you in the thick of a bar fight. You need solid boxing, muay thai, grappling, and experience and awareness. The truth is I get sick of guys like you that put in a little time in military combatives and think you are a tough guy. You are a beginner who doesn't know how to wipe his own ass yet in my world.

That said, awareness is key." - bigbootyluvr

This was posted by bigbootyluvr on another thread. It pretty much turned me off to his posts. Guys that talk this shit usually are envious of the military b/c they didn't make it through the processing of got their ass beat by a Marine at some point. His only "experience" apparently is bouncing at a bar. These outbursts made me suspicious of "roid rage".

What is it with all this need to fight and kick ass? I'm muscular but quite wimpy when it comes to brawling. But I get plenty enough action with the pretty girls. I must definitely run in different environments than you guys.

"I'm a lover not a fighter".

Quote: (02-11-2011 12:22 AM)Rocco81 Wrote:  

Well love him or hate him, Bootylvr had some valid points. Not that I agree with how he went after some of the dudes on here but still..my question is this:

Why is it that after he is now gone some of you guys are stepping up and talking shit about him? You had your chance a loooong time ago, why didnt some of you guys step up and let him have it then? Some dudes here sat by when he was calling out other members and now that he's gone you want to be all funny.

Point is this, Roosh is the mod here but we need to police ourselves. You think someone is out of line call him on it. Don't wait till it festers and blows up and ends up like this, then start with the goodbyes, good riddance etc. Call a dude out if you dont like what he says guys there are of course right and wrong ways to do it. But speak your word and move on.

I completely agree

That opens up the forum for people to get real nasty with each other, for every little thing. I think that there needs to be some restraint and politeness even if we don't like what everyone has to say, unless they are attacking people. Bootyluvr, or whatever the fuck his name was, did blow up and attack people at the end. So he gets a little reamed for it. I think that's about way things should progress.

I'm sure everyone has issues with things people say. They think that it sounds dumb, fake, its in bad taste, whatever... If we all start being 'real' and calling people out about every little thing I think the forum might go down hill pretty quick.

Frankly, I hardly noticed bootyluvrs posts other than what has been linked to here. Did he deserve to be called out before this? I have no idea, but most likely not. But he did talk some shit in this post.