This forum always forgets about New Orleans.
Best sea food in world
Quote: (04-13-2013 07:53 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
This forum always forgets about New Orleans.
Gulf Cost seafood took a uppercut from Katrina and BP Spill. They say the shrimp is legit but its hard to think the quality is the same after both those things. Gulf Coast used to have some of the best shrimp back in the day around before they over harvested them.
I've never had crawfish though, shit looks good. Its on my bucket list.
Quote: (04-13-2013 07:42 PM)klosck Wrote:
Best seafood in the world ( by far) is found in peru. There are so many differernt dishes to try. My favorites are ceviche and chupe de camarones.
In europe the seafood fucking blows. The shrimp here is tastelss and always has the consistency of rubber...but i guess ive been spoiled from peru. i honestly have not had one dish here that even comes close to those of peru. Havent made it to southern italy yet though
I would agree that Peru has great Ceviche, but best seafood in the world? I don't think I could agree with you there. I'm not a big sea food expert, but the shushi I've had in the states definitely beat the sushi I had in Peru, not that the Peruvian sushi was bad, it just couldn't top the states. It was however the best I've had outside of the states. Definitely beat Brazil. Edo was great in Mira Flores.
Quote: (04-13-2013 07:49 PM)kosko Wrote:
Sushi is a great example for this. Toronto Sushi even at the high-end gets a bad rap. The low end stuff is dog food but edible and cheap, but even high-end stuff is no better then the stuff you can get from random street shops in Vancouver. The best Sushi I have eaten in my life was from a random small shop in Vancouver, mind you I have only eaten Sushi in a few places (Edmonton, Calgary, Toronto, Vancouver, NYC) and I am no big spender with food but for a mid-range meal Vancouver stuff was legit quality wise. Vancouver blows Toronto away with seafood as they have legit sourcing from great points in Asia and the West Cost. The Maritimes will give you the best lobster on earth, and they have some great mussels too.
Thats the one thing I'm going to miss most about Vancouver. Even a few hours away the top quality sushi is the same you'd see at a $10.99 all you can eat buffet.
I think I've had bad sushi twice since being here. One was from the supermarket and the other was from some really sketchy place I walked into when day drinking. You can walk into any place in town and expect some decent quality, get a filling lunch box for the same price as a big mac meal. You can get 18-22 peices (salmon/tuna, cali and yam usually) with soup for under $6
Hawaii is the best source of the worlds best seafood. The fisheries in the overall area are extremely well protected. There's no other place on the planet with such a variety of fish either. Then i can swim 100 yards out in front of my house and catch lobsters that make Maine look like shit.
On top of that sustainable aquaculturet is amazing here. The worlds best shrimp come from farms in Kahuku.
I
The thing is, you can find way better restauants in other parts of the world. Their shit all sources from Hawaii though. The best sushi grades in Tokyo get fedexed every day from Honolulu.
Aloha!
On top of that sustainable aquaculturet is amazing here. The worlds best shrimp come from farms in Kahuku.
I
The thing is, you can find way better restauants in other parts of the world. Their shit all sources from Hawaii though. The best sushi grades in Tokyo get fedexed every day from Honolulu.
Aloha!
Quote: (04-13-2013 11:14 PM)Kona Wrote:
Hawaii is the best source of the worlds best seafood. The fisheries in the overall area are extremely well protected. There's no other place on the planet with such a variety of fish either. Then i can swim 100 yards out in front of my house and catch lobsters that make Maine look like shit.
On top of that sustainable aquaculture is amazing here. The worlds best shrimp come from farms in Kahuku.
The thing is, you can find way better restaurants in other parts of the world. Their shit all sources from Hawaii though. Best sushi in tokyo gets fedexed from Honolulu.
I believe it. I was amazed at the wide variety of fish I saw while snorkeling in Hawaii. I went by that crater off Maui, amazing.
Quote: (04-13-2013 05:08 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:
http://www.asianoffbeat.com/?display=1504
Top 10 sushi restaurants in the world, according to this site.
No offense but that list is a load of horseshit.
I can't speak for London or Paris, hell I have a hard time any Japanese restaurant in either of those cities would make it into the top 100 best Japanese restaurants in the world.
The best Japanese restaurants are in Japan. You're looking at places like:
Hyotei
Ryugin
Sawada
Koju
Harutaka
Chihana
Esaki
Kozue
Kyubei
Jiro
Kanesaka
Takamura
There's 12 that are light years beyond anything in that article.
In L.A. you've got Urasawa, Mori, Zo, n/naka, Yamakase, Kiyokawa, Kiriko, Go's, Komasa. All of these blow Matsuhisa and Asanebo out of the water (and I like Asanebo)
Just sayin, always gotta check the sponsorship of articles like that "10 best". It's all PR/marketing.
Keep in mind, these are all sushi/kaiseki restaurants. This doesn't even count ramen shops or izakayas. Again, I promise you that anything in Japan or L.A. blows away anything in Paris or London, and probably even NY and SF.
Quote: (04-14-2013 01:50 AM)thedude3737 Wrote:
Quote: (04-13-2013 05:08 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:
http://www.asianoffbeat.com/?display=1504
Top 10 sushi restaurants in the world, according to this site.
No offense but that list is a load of horseshit.
I can't speak for London or Paris, hell I have a hard time any Japanese restaurant in either of those cities would make it into the top 100 best Japanese restaurants in the world.
The best Japanese restaurants are in Japan. You're looking at places like:
Hyotei
Ryugin
Sawada
Koju
Harutaka
Chihana
Esaki
Kozue
Kyubei
Jiro
Kanesaka
Takamura
There's 12 that are light years beyond anything in that article.
In L.A. you've got Urasawa, Mori, Zo, n/naka, Yamakase, Kiyokawa, Kiriko, Go's, Komasa. All of these blow Matsuhisa and Asanebo out of the water (and I like Asanebo)
Just sayin, always gotta check the sponsorship of articles like that "10 best". It's all PR/marketing.
Keep in mind, these are all sushi/kaiseki restaurants. This doesn't even count ramen shops or izakayas. Again, I promise you that anything in Japan or L.A. blows away anything in Paris or London, and probably even NY and SF.
I checked quit a few other lists that had Matsuhisa as well. I mean you're a chef, you know more than me, but all I can say is I've had Matsuhisa and it was phenomenal. I haven't been to Japan though and haven't tried any of those ones in LA. I'll take your word for it though since you're the pro.
The quality of the sushi is directly proportional to the quality of the raw produce. While there is a lot of skill involved in preparation as well I dare say that for example Norwegian fjord salmon that lives in very cold waters (thus does not grow as fast, giving a denser meat) are superior to much of the salmon you'd find in Japan. Same goes for North Sea shrimp, try eating one of those following a typical Asian prawn.
Quote: (04-13-2013 11:14 PM)Kona Wrote:
Hawaii is the best source of the worlds best seafood. The fisheries in the overall area are extremely well protected. There's no other place on the planet with such a variety of fish either. Then i can swim 100 yards out in front of my house and catch lobsters that make Maine look like shit.
On top of that sustainable aquaculturet is amazing here. The worlds best shrimp come from farms in Kahuku.
I
The thing is, you can find way better restauants in other parts of the world. Their shit all sources from Hawaii though. The best sushi grades in Tokyo get fedexed every day from Honolulu.
Aloha!
I haven't been to Hawaii or eaten lobster from there but I assume that they're warm water lobster and if they're anything like the warm water lobsters I've eaten in the Caribbean, I'll take my North Atlantic lobster (Maine, Nova Scotia, etc) anyday.
I'd say Nova Scotia is a prime seafood spot, as we are the world's largest producer of American Lobster and its cheap down there, you can go down to the wharf and buy it straight off the boat for $3.50-5.00/pound most years. We also produce a ton of scallops and other shellfish such as clams, mussels, Oysters and Quahogs. Basically we provide a ton of seafood throughout Canada and the US and also to places like Spain and Portugal. I guess growing up there has influenced my seafood tastes but I prefer fish like halibut, cod and haddock over the ones from warmer waters.
I always eat fish if I'm traveling to a place near the sea and lately have been eating quite a lot in the Philippines, actually had a very good seafood chowder outside of Manila earlier today.
Quote: (04-13-2013 07:49 PM)kosko Wrote:
Quote: (04-13-2013 06:57 PM)Fortitudinal Wrote:
Toronto, center of the universe I reccommend the jerk crab at Rock Lobster. Fan fucking tastic, makes you want more and more. Sweet, salty, spicy, a little earthy. Really great dish, michellin star quality for not a lot of $$.
Also, oysters fresh from the ocean, anywhere. A squeeze of lemon, a gallon of local white wine, and then a trip to humptown ftw.
You gotta be joking. Toronto has some of the worst fish around. We have a hard time getting any good sourcing for good fresh stuff, It just does not come around here as quick as it should.
Sushi is a great example for this. Toronto Sushi even at the high-end gets a bad rap. The low end stuff is dog food but edible and cheap, but even high-end stuff is no better then the stuff you can get from random street shops in Vancouver. The best Sushi I have eaten in my life was from a random small shop in Vancouver, mind you I have only eaten Sushi in a few places (Edmonton, Calgary, Toronto, Vancouver, NYC) and I am no big spender with food but for a mid-range meal Vancouver stuff was legit quality wise. Vancouver blows Toronto away with seafood as they have legit sourcing from great points in Asia and the West Cost. The Maritimes will give you the best lobster on earth, and they have some great mussels too.
Go try Rock Lobster. As fresh as humanly possible considered we are land locked. The cousin of the owner is a lobster fisherman,so you get top quality and lowest price in town. I dont even work or have affiliations with them, just a big fan.
As far as sushi, Hiro can give a run for their money to a lot of places in Japan.
Even the sammiches of the seafood place in St lawrence market are sound and fresh. Decent prices too.
Quote: (04-13-2013 08:00 PM)kosko Wrote:
Quote: (04-13-2013 07:53 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
This forum always forgets about New Orleans.
Gulf Cost seafood took a uppercut from Katrina and BP Spill. They say the shrimp is legit but its hard to think the quality is the same after both those things. Gulf Coast used to have some of the best shrimp back in the day around before they over harvested them.
I've never had crawfish though, shit looks good. Its on my bucket list.
Quite possibly the best meal I have ever had was this Crawfish Boil I was invited to last time in New Orleans.
I was hanging with the huge NO cats, and I was Custom Suited Down. They were cool as f*ck.
Gulf Oysters are my favorite bar none.
Quote: (04-14-2013 04:06 PM)Fortitudinal Wrote:
Quote: (04-13-2013 07:49 PM)kosko Wrote:
Quote: (04-13-2013 06:57 PM)Fortitudinal Wrote:
Toronto, center of the universe I reccommend the jerk crab at Rock Lobster. Fan fucking tastic, makes you want more and more. Sweet, salty, spicy, a little earthy. Really great dish, michellin star quality for not a lot of $$.
Also, oysters fresh from the ocean, anywhere. A squeeze of lemon, a gallon of local white wine, and then a trip to humptown ftw.
You gotta be joking. Toronto has some of the worst fish around. We have a hard time getting any good sourcing for good fresh stuff, It just does not come around here as quick as it should.
Sushi is a great example for this. Toronto Sushi even at the high-end gets a bad rap. The low end stuff is dog food but edible and cheap, but even high-end stuff is no better then the stuff you can get from random street shops in Vancouver. The best Sushi I have eaten in my life was from a random small shop in Vancouver, mind you I have only eaten Sushi in a few places (Edmonton, Calgary, Toronto, Vancouver, NYC) and I am no big spender with food but for a mid-range meal Vancouver stuff was legit quality wise. Vancouver blows Toronto away with seafood as they have legit sourcing from great points in Asia and the West Cost. The Maritimes will give you the best lobster on earth, and they have some great mussels too.
Go try Rock Lobster. As fresh as humanly possible considered we are land locked. The cousin of the owner is a lobster fisherman,so you get top quality and lowest price in town. I dont even work or have affiliations with them, just a big fan.
As far as sushi, Hiro can give a run for their money to a lot of places in Japan.
Even the sammiches of the seafood place in St lawrence market are sound and fresh. Decent prices too.
Aspen is far from the coast and has great sushi. I always wondered how they did it. But Aspen caters to the rich, so where there's the money, there's a way.
Quote: (04-14-2013 02:14 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:
Quote: (04-14-2013 01:50 AM)thedude3737 Wrote:
Quote: (04-13-2013 05:08 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:
http://www.asianoffbeat.com/?display=1504
Top 10 sushi restaurants in the world, according to this site.
No offense but that list is a load of horseshit.
I can't speak for London or Paris, hell I have a hard time any Japanese restaurant in either of those cities would make it into the top 100 best Japanese restaurants in the world.
The best Japanese restaurants are in Japan. You're looking at places like:
Hyotei
Ryugin
Sawada
Koju
Harutaka
Chihana
Esaki
Kozue
Kyubei
Jiro
Kanesaka
Takamura
There's 12 that are light years beyond anything in that article.
In L.A. you've got Urasawa, Mori, Zo, n/naka, Yamakase, Kiyokawa, Kiriko, Go's, Komasa. All of these blow Matsuhisa and Asanebo out of the water (and I like Asanebo)
Just sayin, always gotta check the sponsorship of articles like that "10 best". It's all PR/marketing.
Keep in mind, these are all sushi/kaiseki restaurants. This doesn't even count ramen shops or izakayas. Again, I promise you that anything in Japan or L.A. blows away anything in Paris or London, and probably even NY and SF.
I checked quit a few other lists that had Matsuhisa as well. I mean you're a chef, you know more than me, but all I can say is I've had Matsuhisa and it was phenomenal. I haven't been to Japan though and haven't tried any of those ones in LA. I'll take your word for it though since you're the pro.
Both Matsuhisa and Asanebo are very good restaurants in their own right. It's a different style, and definitely falls under the "fusion" category.
Typically Japanese restaurants are measured by some degree of authenticity and purity, and in this regard I would put many restaurants ahead of Matsuhisa and Asanebo, and probably every other restaurant on that list. There's nothing wrong with fusion, but it's just not Japanese. In terms of sheer quality, putting Jewel Bako in NY on that list is somewhat of an insult when there are places like Masa and Yasuda.
Quote: (04-14-2013 04:51 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:
Quote: (04-14-2013 02:14 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:
Quote: (04-14-2013 01:50 AM)thedude3737 Wrote:
Quote: (04-13-2013 05:08 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:
http://www.asianoffbeat.com/?display=1504
Top 10 sushi restaurants in the world, according to this site.
No offense but that list is a load of horseshit.
I can't speak for London or Paris, hell I have a hard time any Japanese restaurant in either of those cities would make it into the top 100 best Japanese restaurants in the world.
The best Japanese restaurants are in Japan. You're looking at places like:
Hyotei
Ryugin
Sawada
Koju
Harutaka
Chihana
Esaki
Kozue
Kyubei
Jiro
Kanesaka
Takamura
There's 12 that are light years beyond anything in that article.
In L.A. you've got Urasawa, Mori, Zo, n/naka, Yamakase, Kiyokawa, Kiriko, Go's, Komasa. All of these blow Matsuhisa and Asanebo out of the water (and I like Asanebo)
Just sayin, always gotta check the sponsorship of articles like that "10 best". It's all PR/marketing.
Keep in mind, these are all sushi/kaiseki restaurants. This doesn't even count ramen shops or izakayas. Again, I promise you that anything in Japan or L.A. blows away anything in Paris or London, and probably even NY and SF.
I checked quit a few other lists that had Matsuhisa as well. I mean you're a chef, you know more than me, but all I can say is I've had Matsuhisa and it was phenomenal. I haven't been to Japan though and haven't tried any of those ones in LA. I'll take your word for it though since you're the pro.
Both Matsuhisa and Asanebo are very good restaurants in their own right. It's a different style, and definitely falls under the "fusion" category.
Typically Japanese restaurants are measured by some degree of authenticity and purity, and in this regard I would put many restaurants ahead of Matsuhisa and Asanebo, and probably every other restaurant on that list. There's nothing wrong with fusion, but it's just not Japanese. In terms of sheer quality, putting Jewel Bako in NY on that list is somewhat of an insult when there are places like Masa and Yasuda.
I see where you're coming from with the authenticity. I ate at the Matsu in Aspen. I was surprised at the quality being so far from the ocean. There are also 2 other great sushi restaurants in Aspen, Kenichi (Also in Dallas and Hawaii) and Taka Sushi. I'm gonna have to check out some of the others in LA you mentioned next time I'm in SoCal. What do you think about Nobu? I haven't tried it but it's Nobu Matsuhisas other restaurant that he owns with Robert DeNiro correct? Is it better or worse than Matsuhisa?
Funny you mention Taka; that was the very first sushi I ever had in my life when I spent a summer in Aspen...this was before I was ever into cooking. We're talking '99 or '00. I remember loving it.
It's common to get extremely fresh seafood in landlocked areas, look at Vegas. What's funny is everyone has some notion that ocean-front seafood restaurants get great quality because they're right next to the water, but this is rarely the case, and it's because their seafood comes from the same damn vendors (or worse quality vendors) as any other restaurant. Real estate has nothing to do with it (with very few exceptions) It's not like some guy is going out on the dock with a few lines and catching everything fresh that day...
I like Nobu. It's even more "cutting edge" than Matsuhisa. Nobu is a very talented chef and businessman. You don't create a successful global empire by making shitty food or being a hack...unless it's fast food.
It's common to get extremely fresh seafood in landlocked areas, look at Vegas. What's funny is everyone has some notion that ocean-front seafood restaurants get great quality because they're right next to the water, but this is rarely the case, and it's because their seafood comes from the same damn vendors (or worse quality vendors) as any other restaurant. Real estate has nothing to do with it (with very few exceptions) It's not like some guy is going out on the dock with a few lines and catching everything fresh that day...
I like Nobu. It's even more "cutting edge" than Matsuhisa. Nobu is a very talented chef and businessman. You don't create a successful global empire by making shitty food or being a hack...unless it's fast food.
Surströmming
California coast for Uni.
Some of the best is in San Diego.
Uni is easily one of my top five favorite foods.
Truly a delicacy.
I wrote up a Data Sheet a while back on how to prepare.
How to Prepare Uni (Sea Urchin)
Get your hands on this stuff.
Some of the best is in San Diego.
Uni is easily one of my top five favorite foods.
Truly a delicacy.
I wrote up a Data Sheet a while back on how to prepare.
How to Prepare Uni (Sea Urchin)
Get your hands on this stuff.
Pussy tastes like seafood sometimes.
Sometimes I eat pussy unexpectedly and it's fucking good and that's ok.
Sometimes I eat pussy unexpectedly and it's fucking good and that's ok.
As all of us avid anglers know, the best fish to eat is the one you reel in with your rod.
Best?
Easily Norwegian Salmon I grabbed in Bergen at the local fish market...amazing.
Speaking of Crawfish-Louisiana Crawfish with some cajun seasoning, or possibly Old Bay (I LOVE Old Bay, as well as seafood in general). I will just guzzle those things. Columbia, SC has a Crawfish festival once every year-20 bucks for a big box of em. AMAZING.
Easily Norwegian Salmon I grabbed in Bergen at the local fish market...amazing.
Speaking of Crawfish-Louisiana Crawfish with some cajun seasoning, or possibly Old Bay (I LOVE Old Bay, as well as seafood in general). I will just guzzle those things. Columbia, SC has a Crawfish festival once every year-20 bucks for a big box of em. AMAZING.
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Surströmming
ha most people wont even let that in their home.
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Uni is easily one of my top five favorite foods.
Truly a delicacy.
Good call. I love Uni.
In Japan its one of the foods that they like to give to gaijin in order to gauge our reactions.
But we also joke that any girl that likes Uni also swallows (so far the theory holds)
Jamaican seafood was great and so was the seafood I had in new orleans. I may be a little biased coming into this but Indian seafood is the best. It really varies from family to family and state to state but I would have to say Andhra Pradesh and Bengal have the best seafood. I haven't tasted anything close to it.
Go to a clear mountain lake and drop cheap meat in.
Wait for the crawdads to come.
The meat doesn't get eaten because they fight over it.
After a while you can scoop them up.
Shore lunch eating pike or walleye. Bacon, onion rings, potatoes.
Fresh grilled brook trout you just caught.
For an uncommon taste, try fried bluegill. It's so sweet I get sick after the 2nd or 3rd fish. The first 2 are good though.
Wait for the crawdads to come.
The meat doesn't get eaten because they fight over it.
After a while you can scoop them up.
Shore lunch eating pike or walleye. Bacon, onion rings, potatoes.
Fresh grilled brook trout you just caught.
For an uncommon taste, try fried bluegill. It's so sweet I get sick after the 2nd or 3rd fish. The first 2 are good though.
sydney has very highly rated seafood. i'd imagine somewhere like auckland would too.
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