It will take time to lose the weight. Work on that with hitting on women. By the time you lose weight you should have tight game if your consistent with both.

Quote: (04-03-2013 05:34 PM)NoBalls Wrote:  

To summarize my interpretations of the postings, Daygame wins out over Restaurant Bar game and nightclub game for approaching lots of women in their 20s for an overweight middle aged man.

Here are other points that I synthesized from the postings.
1. It is generally believed that the overweight middle aged guy needs to get his ass into shape and that should take at least some priority over approaching women in their 20s.
2. Some believe that it is impossible for the overweight middle aged guy to have any success with women in their 20s so it might not be worth trying.

You sound like an unbearable passive aggressive cunt, attention whore and keyboard jockey. This site isn't Jezebel for men.

Quote: (04-03-2013 05:34 PM)NoBalls Wrote:  

To summarize my interpretations of the postings, [b]Daygame wins out over Restaurant Bar game and nightclub game for approaching lots of women in their 20s[/b] for an overweight middle aged man.

Here are other points that I synthesized from the postings.
1. It is generally believed that the overweight middle aged guy needs to get his ass into shape and that should take at least some priority over approaching women in their 20s.
2. Some believe that it is impossible for the overweight middle aged guy to have any success with women in their 20s so it might not be worth trying.

well duh, you are comparing single locations to everything else possible....kinda like asking what's the best exercise:

1. Bench Press
2. Stationary bike
3. A mix of weights, cardio, plyometrics, interval training, P90x, TRX, boxing, basketball, soccer, baseball, softball, volleyball, running, biking, kayaking, surfing, skateboarding, elliptical trainer, body weight training, etc.

Quote: (04-03-2013 01:50 PM)NoBalls Wrote:  

Assume that you are a middle aged guy with a protruding gut and you want to approach a lot of women (in their 20s) knowing that it will be a numbers game finding one attracted to you. Which of the following would make the best use of your time?
a) Nightclubs/crowded bars with lots of women to approach.
b) Restaurant bars on weeknights
c) Streets/parks/stores/coffee shops.

My answer is c. Here is why:

a. Wrong - If you have a protruding gut and middle aged, it's kind of embarrassing to be in a nightclub environment. I think the only way a middle aged guy can fit into a nightclub is if he is in excellent physical shape.
b. Wrong - Restaurant Bars - Sometimes have nice women but it is kind of difficult to get a lot of approaches in. If none of the women can overlook your gut and age then you will end up there with your drink. Can't play the numbers game in this environment.
c. Correct - Daygame is probably the best bet because you can get a lot of approaches done in a variety of locations.

Anyone have a different opinion?

You must loose the gut! From my experience, women are primarily attracted to athletic 6'2" or taller type men with well defined muscles and 6-pack abs. A gut is a deal-breaker for 99% of women!

I was/am in your same predicament. I'm 43 and developed serious oneitis for this chick at work. One time when we were conversing, she remarked "I want a man who takes care of himself". I interpreted this as code for "You're fat!". I knew I had to dump the gut to build attraction. In January I was wearing size 42 jeans and weighed 250lbs. Now I'm down to size 38 and weigh 219. I'm still loosing. Hope to get down to 190lbs (I'm 6'). Here is how I did it:

First: join a local gym (YMCA, LA Fitness, 24 Hour Fitness, etc.). Go to the gym after work EVERY NIGHT. You cannot skip a night! You must resist the temptation to make excuses why you can't go to the gym on a particular night! At the gym, do 30 minutes on the treadmill at a speed of at least 5.2 with an oscillating incline that varies from 0 to 3%. When your run is over (about 3 miles), go over to the weight area for another 30 minutes and work the machines (preacher curl, lat pull down, chest press, straight "military" press, seated row, triceps extension, "pek-deck"/fly machine, abs machine). That is one hour each night every night!

Second: CANCEL DINNER. That's right: DO NOT EAT DINNER ANYMORE. Only eat two meals a day, breakfast and lunch. Skip dinner completely. I've determined that eating dinner makes you fat. Besides, I've noticed that I'm not as hungry when I get back from the gym at night after a hard workout, so skipping dinner is not that difficult if you workout before.

Tip #1: one thing that might happen after a month is you may develop something called "shinsplints" from running on the treadmill. If your shin bones feel like they are broken and you can barely jog without pain, you have developed shinsplints. Think of shinsplints like being shit-tested by a woman you want to bang: you must blow past it. I had shinsplints really bad for about three weeks about a month after I started working out and after that, the pain attenuated, and isn't a problem any more.

Tip #2: another thing that might happen is you will develop a sharp pain in your knees where your knee cap (called the patella) is. This condition is called "Runner’s Knee" and is a real pain in the ass. What I do is I wear Pro-Tec Patellar Tendon Straps when I run on the mill. This helps a bit and I recommend it.

Well, that is what I do and I have seen the results. You can do it too. From one middle ager to another - good luck loosing that gut!

--Crisis

Quote: (04-03-2013 01:50 PM)NoBalls Wrote:  

Assume that you are a middle aged guy with a protruding gut and you want to approach a lot of women (in their 20s) knowing that it will be a numbers game finding one attracted to you. Which of the following would make the best use of your time?
a) Nightclubs/crowded bars with lots of women to approach.
b) Restaurant bars on weeknights
c) Streets/parks/stores/coffee shops.

My answer is c. Here is why:

a. Wrong - If you have a protruding gut and middle aged, it's kind of embarrassing to be in a nightclub environment. I think the only way a middle aged guy can fit into a nightclub is if he is in excellent physical shape.
b. Wrong - Restaurant Bars - Sometimes have nice women but it is kind of difficult to get a lot of approaches in. If none of the women can overlook your gut and age then you will end up there with your drink. Can't play the numbers game in this environment.
c. Correct - Daygame is probably the best bet because you can get a lot of approaches done in a variety of locations.

Anyone have a different opinion?

d. Nightclub Owner.

Are you successful and wealthy?

Because that can be a game changer for if women will fuck/date overweight guys.

If you are not make them believe you are rich.

Invest in having some fake business cards which give you a title of doctor, lawyer, upper management etc

Try to stick to fucking her at her place so she doesnt see your place which could give away that you are not rich.

If your car is not a high status car like a bmw, audi, etc tell her what your driving right now is a rental while your other car is in the shop(say something like . . . "you know how often bmws break down")

A friend of the family I know is single fat rich guy(high 7 figures net worth) who is also bald and in his mid 40s (doesnt drink so no bars/night clubs) and basically nothing special to look at. But ive seen him day game the shit out of women in the grocery store, malls etc. It might also help that due to his wealth he usually only goes to high end places that other wealthy people go so that helps prescreens him for many of the women he meets.

Oh hes also been engaged twice but called it off when the women refused to sign prenups.

Quote: (04-03-2013 08:49 PM)MidlifeCrisis Wrote:  

Second: CANCEL DINNER. That's right: DO NOT EAT DINNER ANYMORE. Only eat two meals a day, breakfast and lunch. Skip dinner completely. I've determined that eating dinner makes you fat. Besides, I've noticed that I'm not as hungry when I get back from the gym at night after a hard workout, so skipping dinner is not that difficult if you workout before.

Tip #2: another thing that might happen is you will develop a sharp pain in your knees where your knee cap (called the patella) is. This condition is called "Runner’s Knee" and is a real pain in the ass. What I do is I wear Pro-Tec Patellar Tendon Straps when I run on the mill. This helps a bit and I recommend it.

For me to be in the best shape, all that really works is to eat one big meal a day. Sometimes it's lunch and sometimes it's dinner. I realize that it would not work for everyone, but it works for many people. As with MidlifeCrisis, exercise generally kills my appetite so I almost always eat before going to the gym.

I have had this "runner's knee" condition in the past, but not lately. For some reason I don't have that knee problem from running alone. The combination of running and dancing is what kills my knees. Since I don't dance quite as much as I used to, the knee problem has been virtually nonexistent for some time.

You can be fat and still get girls. If you have big enough balls.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21287-...#pid386453

Quote: (04-03-2013 01:50 PM)NoBalls Wrote:  

...Which of the following would make the best use of your time?
a) Nightclubs/crowded bars with lots of women to approach.
b) Restaurant bars on weeknights
c) Streets/parks/stores/coffee shops.

My answer is c. Here is why:

...


Anyone have a different opinion?

I do..

The best way is to do:

A) Nightclub. Game while drinking vodka and tonic. No beers or sugary soda drinks. Cardio on the dancefloor.

and

B) Resteraunts) While eating salads, lean meat and minimum carbs. No desserts. Walk to the resteraunt and back.

and finally

C) Daygame. Talk to girls while running, swimming, cycling, walking a dog, climbing a hill etc.




Who cares what the best choice is. Any choice is good as long as it is not getting in the way of you losing weight.

Learn some time management skills and look for overlaps between fitness and game opportunities.

There is plenty of advice on here about weight loss and gym plans. No excuses

Quote: (04-03-2013 10:48 PM)Irishman Wrote:  

Cardio on the dancefloor.

^^ this is my signature move^^ The clap at the end makes them wet.

A fat lawyer, doctor etc. is still seriously disadvantaged when approaching attractive woman in their 20's. A guy with an average job and in good / reasonable shape would do far better more than likely all other things equal. Lose the weight. It's not really that complicated nor difficult. Unless you are extremely obese say 300+ pounds there's no reason why you can't be in respectable shape in under 6 months.

Quote: (04-03-2013 11:07 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

A fat lawyer, doctor etc. is still seriously disadvantaged when approaching attractive woman in their 20's. A guy with an average job and in good / reasonable shape would do far better more than likely all other things equal. Lose the weight. It's not really that complicated nor difficult. Unless you are extremely obese say 300+ pounds there's no reason why you can't be in respectable shape in under 6 months.

Exactly.

You are asking for a solution while completely ignoring the obvious problem.

Its like starting a tread: I am going on holidays while I'm on fire- Paris or London

Quote: (04-03-2013 01:50 PM)NoBalls Wrote:  

Assume that you are a middle aged guy with a protruding gut and you want to approach a lot of women (in their 20s) knowing that it will be a numbers game finding one attracted to you.

I don't know if it's just the local sexual market in my city, but I've seen a few fat middle-aged guys with tiny petite young girls. I remember going to a club once and there was this huge ugly middle aged guy making out with this 7/10 tiny blonde girl, and she would go every now and dance while he'd sit at the bar, and he just couldn't care less that other guys were hitting on his chick, he just kept drinking his beer and making jokes with the people around him, and the chick would just keep coming back to him for more bar make-out sessions.

I think there are some guys who just don't give a damn that they have a gut and they game on as if they didn't have one.

But if you are acutely aware of your gut, you probably need to lose it first, because that niggling doubt will remain in the back and spoil your aura of confidence.

This is a troll thread, right?

Quote: (04-04-2013 12:16 AM)MikeCF Wrote:  

This is a troll thread, right?

Not at all.

What he is saying is how can I get the hottest chicks possible without doing anything to improve my life because hard work is hard so I'm going to live in mediocrity.

Complllllleeeettteelllyyyyy legit.

Quote: (04-04-2013 08:05 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Quote: (04-04-2013 12:16 AM)MikeCF Wrote:  

This is a troll thread, right?

Not at all.

What he is saying is how can I get the hottest chicks possible without doing anything to improve my life because hard work is hard so I'm going to live in mediocrity.

Complllllleeeettteelllyyyyy legit.

He's a prime candidate for a PUA bootcamp. They'll tell him exactly what he wants to hear.

I think many people posted missed the main points in this topic. Here are the original points of this posting.

Point #1: The best venues to approach women can be affected by your level of physical fitness. If you are out of shape certain venues may be more of a challenge.

Point #2: To determine the best venues to make best use of your time if you are overweight.

Let's say an overweight middle aged man wants to allocate 10 hours a week to approaching women. Would he be better off spending those 10 hours in clubs, in restaurant bars, or doing daygame?

My feeling is that those 10 hours are best spent doing daygame. (Obviously time should be allocated to get into shape as well.)

Quote: (04-04-2013 09:06 AM)NoBalls Wrote:  

I think many people posted missed the main points in this topic. Here are the original points of this posting.

Point #1: The best venues to approach women can be affected by your level of physical fitness. If you are out of shape certain venues may be more of a challenge.

Point #2: To determine the best venues to make best use of your time if you are overweight.

Let's say an overweight middle aged man wants to allocate 10 hours a week to approaching women. Would he be better off spending those 10 hours in clubs, in restaurant bars, or doing daygame?

My feeling is that those 10 hours are best spent doing daygame. (Obviously time should be allocated to get into shape as well.)

Here is the thing.

Social circle > Day game > night game > online game

In terms of quality women. So it's irrelevant. If you're shredded to bits then you can make day game easier.

If I was fat and out of shape I would spend all of my time 100% of it. Losing weight. Because I value living over fucking some girl.

You only live once, not this bullshit about "YOLO" where you party as a fat dude and kill yourself at age 50.

That's why it's a waste of discussion.

If you're choosing pussy over your health you're actually just that. A pussy.

Quote: (04-04-2013 09:20 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

In terms of quality women. So it's irrelevant. If you're shredded to bits then you can make day game easier.

If I was fat and out of shape I would spend all of my time 100% of it. Losing weight. Because I value living over fucking some girl.

You only live once, not this bullshit about "YOLO" where you party as a fat dude and kill yourself at age 50.

That's why it's a waste of discussion.

If you're choosing pussy over your health you're actually just that. A pussy.

You make a good point that health should be chosen over chasing pussy. But I still think the topic of the posting makes for an interesting discussion.

Do a lot of your daygame outside in parks or malls where you will be walking. You will end up losing fat by walking so much. Hit the gym for 30-40 minutes of intense weightlifting , then hit the park for daygame.

You do both. Simple solution

I would say all-you-can-eat-buffets.

Quote: (04-04-2013 09:06 AM)NoBalls Wrote:  

I think many people posted missed the main points in this topic. Here are the original points of this posting.

Point #1: The best venues to approach women can be affected by your level of physical fitness. If you are out of shape certain venues may be more of a challenge.

Point #2: To determine the best venues to make best use of your time if you are overweight.

Let's say an overweight middle aged man wants to allocate 10 hours a week to approaching women. Would he be better off spending those 10 hours in clubs, in restaurant bars, or doing daygame?

My feeling is that those 10 hours are best spent doing daygame. (Obviously time should be allocated to get into shape as well.)

I don't think its that people missed it so much as its kinda overly simplistic in its premise.

Your point assumes that someone should only use the "best" way, when you can actually still attempt in each area, even if it isn't your "best".

Quote: (04-04-2013 08:18 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Quote: (04-04-2013 08:05 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Quote: (04-04-2013 12:16 AM)MikeCF Wrote:  

This is a troll thread, right?

Not at all.

What he is saying is how can I get the hottest chicks possible without doing anything to improve my life because hard work is hard so I'm going to live in mediocrity.

Complllllleeeettteelllyyyyy legit.

He's a prime candidate for a PUA bootcamp. They'll tell him exactly what he wants to hear.

Funny.

I was just about to type, "This group moved past the illusion that you can be a dork, learn a few pick-up lines, and magically get laid."

Great to see how far the culture has come, though.

Guys are building themselves up (for the most part) rather than asking how they can be fat fucks while still living the feminist dream of "having it all."