Quote: (03-14-2013 01:15 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I like to date/bang 18-23. I don't like girls out of college. I have dated a few older girls and some were okay but most are too educated. They think they have it all figured out. They have been exposed to feminism and all that shit.

Younger girls are not aware of all that shit, yet. They just want to have fun. They don't care about the number of females in congress or the fact that males are paid more then females. They haven't taken those classes in college yet.

I have noticed a clear difference in the attitudes of college freshman versus the attitudes of college seniors. Fresh out of high school is the best. They know very little about politics and social policy. They think that is weird, boring, adult shit. Hahaha

College freshman only care about finding a social group to fit into, staying current on the latest teenage pop culture, and having fun. They just need a little attraction and a little alcohol -- and the sex is on!

Guys say that young girls are immature and they don't enjoy talking to them..???

So, does that mean that they would rather talk to an older, more experienced, more mature woman???

To me, "older", "experienced", and "mature" =

Teenage girls can talk all day about dreams, hopes, fears, passions. They are not sure of their place in the world, they are not sure what they want. They crave guidance, direction, leadership, clarity, answers, etc.

Teenage girls are perfect for the middle aged player. They are naive and eager for new experiences.

More info on banging college freshman here:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-14257-...#pid237644

All of this. I've been primarily attracted to chicks ages 16-24 since I was 12. I'm now 23 and that attraction hasn't changed, and I don't see it changing when I'm 33, 43, 53 or 93.

I would also like to point out that the average man isn't going to find too many women that are interested in serious conversation anyway. Most women, particularly in the Anglophone countries, have no idea what the hell they're talking about when it comes to politics, social policies, economics, etc. This includes women in their 40's & 50's.

Also, we all know that women crave male leadership. What better chicks to lead than largely inexperienced chicks in their late teens-early 20's? They're in their physical prime and willing to learn new things. It's a sweet deal if you ask me.

Quote: (03-15-2013 07:40 AM)j r Wrote:  

A lot of people misunderstand age of consent laws. Like Athlone mentions above, the lower bounds generally come with some sort of number of years difference. If the age of consent is 16, that only applies to men within a certain number of years. Generally, if you're 21 and over, then the legal age is 18.

Exactly...that is why my lower limit will be 18. I don't have time (nor patience) to attempt to remember the "fine print" of the law for a given state or country. I know if I get a chic 18...I can carry on just like she is 21, 25 or 30.

Quote: (03-15-2013 04:41 PM)Jules D. McMillan Wrote:  

I would also like to point out that the average man isn't going to find too many women that are interested in serious conversation anyway. Most women, particularly in the Anglophone countries, have no idea what the hell they're talking about when it comes to politics, social policies, economics, etc. This includes women in their 40's & 50's.

I went out with a 19 year old recently. I actually found her to be a pretty good conversationalist. We found our way to some more serious topics (politics, economics, social policies and inequality, etc), and for a while she even drove the conversation herself. If was quite interesting, she had a lot of interesting things to say.

Then again, she was a Brazilian...

Quote: (03-15-2013 05:03 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Quote: (03-15-2013 04:41 PM)Jules D. McMillan Wrote:  

I would also like to point out that the average man isn't going to find too many women that are interested in serious conversation anyway. Most women, particularly in the Anglophone countries, have no idea what the hell they're talking about when it comes to politics, social policies, economics, etc. This includes women in their 40's & 50's.

I went out with a 19 year old recently. I actually found her to be a pretty good conversationalist. We found our way to some more serious topics (politics, economics, social policies and inequality, etc), and for a while she even drove the conversation herself. If was quite interesting, she had a lot of interesting things to say.

Then again, she was a Brazilian...

I was enthused until you mentioned the last part. Of course she was Brazilian. Finding an American girl well-versed on such topics is nearly impossible in modern day America.

Also, you went out with a Brazilian! Lucky you bro. I hope everything goes well for you.

Quote: (03-15-2013 05:16 PM)Jules D. McMillan Wrote:  

I was enthused until you mentioned the last part. Of course she was Brazilian. Finding an American girl well-versed on such topics is nearly impossible in modern day America.

Also, you went out with a Brazilian! Lucky you bro. I hope everything goes well for you.

Yeah, it felt good but it didn't work out. I asked her out less than a week before she had to go back to Rio. The date and conversations we had went great, but there wasn't any time for more.

Granted, I've had a small sample size to draw from (she's the only Brazilian girl I've really gotten to know personally), but she really confirmed much of the hype I've heard from Roosh and others about women in that country. She was, honestly, the highest quality girl (taking into account combined physical appearance and intangibles) I've run into in 4 years at my school. I truly understood, for the first time, what Roosh mean in this post.

She did a number on me (is this beta?). My encounter with her really put into perspective just how poor my encounters with other girls on campus had been, and just how lousy it was to maintain discourse with them. The realization that there were, in all likelihood, tens of millions of other girls like this Brazilian (young, attractive, intelligent) throughout Latin America and probably several times that number elsewhere on earth has really done more than anything else to broaden my horizons. I was merely apathetic about girls at my school before. Now, they're like ghosts to me.

I'll have to find a way around that apathy, of course, because it will be a while before I'm on a plane to anywhere.

Quote: (03-15-2013 08:41 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

My encounter with her really put into perspective just how poor my encounters with other girls on campus had been, and just how lousy it was to maintain discourse with them. The realization that there were, in all likelihood, tens of millions of other girls like this Brazilian (young, attractive, intelligent) throughout Latin America and probably several times that number elsewhere on earth has really done more than anything else to broaden my horizons. I was merely apathetic about girls at my school before. Now, they're like ghosts to me.

I'll have to find a way around that apathy, of course, because it will be a while before I'm on a plane to anywhere.

I feel as if I'm in the same predicament. I'm at a giant State U town, and what's nice is it's a peaceful place with nice weather, but the eye-contact avoidance is off the charts among white girls. Part of it's being way older than them, but there's also some weird kind of alienation going on, too many episodes of CSI?

Why would I want to talk to someone that doesn't even look at me!?

The Asian girls, even 2nd generation, are much more open (I'm white).

Also, I can't believe that there is an actual difference in innate intelligence between middle class Americans and same-class Europeans or Brazilians.

It seems more to me that there is more cultural meta-knowledge among older cultures, whereas Americans are just prone to believe whatever is fed to them, reality TV, admirable but unlikely American PC info feeds. The utter lack of class consciousness here is one huge difference. We haven't had 2-3 millenia of exploitation by royalty to highlight once and for all that the rich aren't necessarily great people who are your pals, people just like you but a little luckier.

In one sense, what is unrealistic about America is what made it great; flying, mass production of computers, genetic engineering, religious and racial equality enshrined in law. Older cultures couldn't believe you could even try some of the things we've accomplished. But the idea that woman are exactly like men is ending up so far to be counter-productive in some ways. I don't side with the "woman shouldn't go to college"Taliban cats. My female doctor is more thorough and conscientious than most of the males I've seen. But they are way different.

This harmful difference is the bizarre acceptance of sex equalism in the USA. By that I mean the idea that the sexes are identical except for their reproductive organs. Outside of the fact it seems quite untrue even at the gross physiological level, it leads to all sorts of distortions in natural behaviors, like the acceptability of approaching women. I believe women should have the right to achieve, but since they almost never approach, how could they possibly claim to have equal rights sexually? No work, but still an equal share of the results?

As I'm 16, for me it's 14. That's the age of consent here and anything below that, I'd feel like a creep

Quote: (03-15-2013 03:35 PM)sportbilly Wrote:  

@ Bojangles...."no lad".....are you from Bolton?!

yes lad haha, living in London

are you really from Bolton....that was a good call if I do say so myself!

Physically no, but some young girls are just so insanely boring and stupid that I can't be bothered to go on dates with them

Quote: (03-15-2013 05:03 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Quote: (03-15-2013 04:41 PM)Jules D. McMillan Wrote:  

I would also like to point out that the average man isn't going to find too many women that are interested in serious conversation anyway. Most women, particularly in the Anglophone countries, have no idea what the hell they're talking about when it comes to politics, social policies, economics, etc. This includes women in their 40's & 50's.

I went out with a 19 year old recently. I actually found her to be a pretty good conversationalist. We found our way to some more serious topics (politics, economics, social policies and inequality, etc), and for a while she even drove the conversation herself. If was quite interesting, she had a lot of interesting things to say.

Then again, she was a Brazilian...

Athlone, I know EXACTLY how you feel! In my experience it's much easier to find a younger but more mentally mature woman abroad. American women in the 18-24 range are pretty much intolerable to me. Hearing them even talk is like hearing nails scratched on the chalkboard. On the other hand, you can meet women in that age-range abroad who are totally cool, appreciate intelligence, are feminine and easy-going.

Just finish up school man and when you get out, it's game on.

Quote: (03-20-2013 07:26 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Athlone, I know EXACTLY how you feel! In my experience it's much easier to find a younger but more mentally mature woman abroad. American women in the 18-24 range are pretty much intolerable to me.

Its almost like Americans delay adulthood for 6 or 7 years longer than anyone else. It seems to tie into this whole concept of "adolescence", which strikes me as a primarily American thing.
Kids are expected to be kids, but then they're also expected to have this additional free "discovery" time beyond that, during which they go to college and the like. Whereas other young adults are getting in touch with alcohol (drinking ages well under 21 in most other places) and the working work (many learning vocations and/or being forced to choose their majors much earlier than American college kids), Americans are just told to "discover" themselves.

Combine this with puritan infantilization and mindless American celebrity/pop culture, and the end result is this kind of weird semi-childhood that lasts an extra 4 or 5 years, especially among young women. They just don't grow up until 23 at the earliest, and that is true regardless of how "smart" they are (Ivy League chicks are the same in this regard).

The whole thing gets old after a while.

http://imgur.com/r/starlets/twIDE

Ariel Winter.

Don't care how old she is in that pic, I'd slam that so fucking hard she wouldn't be able to walk for weeks.

Quote: (03-20-2013 11:01 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Its almost like Americans delay adulthood for 6 or 7 years longer than anyone else. It seems to tie into this whole concept of "adolescence", which strikes me as a primarily American thing.
Kids are expected to be kids, but then they're also expected to have this additional free "discovery" time beyond that, during which they go to college and the like. Whereas other young adults are getting in touch with alcohol (drinking ages well under 21 in most other places) and the working work (many learning vocations and/or being forced to choose their majors much earlier than American college kids), Americans are just told to "discover" themselves.

Combine this with puritan infantilization and mindless American celebrity/pop culture, and the end result is this kind of weird semi-childhood that lasts an extra 4 or 5 years, especially among young women. They just don't grow up until 23 at the earliest, and that is true regardless of how "smart" they are (Ivy League chicks are the same in this regard).

The whole thing gets old after a while.

I agree with what you're saying about Puritan taboos affecting our maturity as a culture (If an 18 year old guy can't drop a few bucks to finger a pussy or have a beer why the fuck do we expect him to grow up?). However, with American women they feel that they don't need to "grow up" until that late twenties to early thirties range when they start getting serious about milking a guy for every cent he's worth and getting a ring. Their mid to late twenties are all about fucking around and getting daddy or boyfriends to pick up the tab. It's disgusting how immature they all are, but if they can remain in that middle or high school gossip phase with no real world consequences, who is going to stop them in contemporary American culture? No one.

I look at it this way.. If shes old enough to bleed shes old enough for me

Quote: (03-21-2013 06:26 PM)esperar Wrote:  

http://imgur.com/r/starlets/twIDE

Ariel Winter.

Don't care how old she is in that pic, I'd slam that so fucking hard she wouldn't be able to walk for weeks.

When 14 year olds look like that and you live in a society filled with age-gap shaming and puritan attitudes toward sexual maturity, there will be problems.

That's just unfair.

It's about controlling and hating men's sexuality. Just like the bitch who got that guy fired even though what those guys said had nothing to do with her, you're gonna have women who will hate on men for wanting to bone chicks like that.

Quote: (03-12-2013 01:46 PM)juice Wrote:  

no, maybe it feels awkward talking to a 19 year old (I'm 27) because that's how I've been conditioned.

Awkward, shmawkward. Get over it. I'm 50, and my girlfriend is 22, and I like talking to her and women her age in general way more than uniformly bitter 42 year-olds.

Quote: (03-14-2013 04:57 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote: (03-14-2013 01:45 PM)Ovid Wrote:  

If I'm dating a girl I don't want to play "father."

I agree, I hate being "father" -- But, I don't mind being "daddy"

Her father pays her tuition, room and board, car insurance, gas, and credit card bill.

Her "daddy" picks her up from the student dorms, takes her to his house, pours her a class of wine, and teaches her all about adult stuff. (Sex toys, orgasms, new positions, porn, domination, submissiveness, etc)

Trust me, they want to learn.

Papi is even better.

Quote: (03-14-2013 09:28 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Quote: (03-14-2013 09:20 PM)houston Wrote:  

Athlone - how does it work with Americans in foreign countries and the age of consent? We talked about this before but I forgot.

Well, for starters, this isn't true:

Quote: (03-14-2013 08:57 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

Quote: (03-14-2013 05:59 PM)NY Digital Wrote:  

I think age of consent in Spain. is 12 and 14 in Germany. that being said I wouldnt go below 13 or 14 with legality.
either way as a US citizen you can't go under 16 abroad... legally.

Actually, a U.S. citizen cannot go under 18 abroad. That was passed by Clinton.

The act that governs US sexual conduct overseas actually came after Clinton, and was signed by Bush.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_Act_of_2003

Here is what the law actually says (you can find the actual document in some of the links on that wiki):

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For the purposes of this law, illicit sexual conduct [note: this is what the law is prohibiting] includes commercial sex with anyone under 18, and non-commercial sex with persons under 16 when there is at least a four-year age difference or the person is under 12 years of age

In short:

-Age of consent for commercial sex is 18. This means that no American citizen can solicit paid sex from females under that age. If you do so (mistakenly or not, intent is irrelevant by the letter of this law) and American authorities find out somehow, you can be prosecuted.

-Age of consent for non-commercial sex is 16. This means that a US citizen can legally have consensual, unpaid sex with a 16/17 year old foreigner, as long as the laws in the foreign territory permit it.
If you're 19 or older and an American, 16 is the hard minimum age limit for you for unpaid sex with another person outside of the country. If you have sex with someone younger than that and American authorities find out, you can be prosecuted.

-There is a "Romeo and Juliet" clause built into this act: non-commercial (unpaid, consensual) sex with those under 16 is allowed only when there is less than 4 years in age difference (ex: 15 year old foreigner can consent to sex with 18 year old American). This clause is limited-nobody under 12 can consent to sex (ex: a 14 year old could not have sex with an 11 year old legally).

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Either way, they WILL fukk up your record if they catch wind of you banging an under-18 in a foreign land.

If it is insinuated that you paid for the act, then yes, that is true. Otherwise, don't worry.

Is having sex with a 17-year-old wife considered commercial sex?

In general the sweet spot for women is 16-20. We all know that the older cats are trying to get it, but the young kids 13-15 also want to get with it. If a 15 year old boy bangs a 19 year old girl, he is considered a god by his peers. Oddly enough, this is statutory rape and she should be put on Megan's Law.

I try to associate with girls 21+ just because I don't feed underage drinking. If I meet someone younger at a party, age isn't going to stop me.

Quote: (03-22-2013 11:20 PM)DirkJohanson Wrote:  

Is having sex with a 17-year-old wife considered commercial sex?

Commercial sex is paid sex (prostitution), and is only illegal overseas when engaged in with a girl under 18. Sex within the confines of a marriage doesn't (technically) fit that bill.

Quote: (03-22-2013 12:38 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Quote: (03-21-2013 06:26 PM)esperar Wrote:  

http://imgur.com/r/starlets/twIDE

Ariel Winter.

Don't care how old she is in that pic, I'd slam that so fucking hard she wouldn't be able to walk for weeks.

When 14 year olds look like that and you live in a society filled with age-gap shaming and puritan attitudes toward sexual maturity, there will be problems.

If you like that pic, don't visit jailbaitgallery.com, you'll be in there all day.

Quote: (03-22-2013 11:48 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Quote: (03-22-2013 12:38 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Quote: (03-21-2013 06:26 PM)esperar Wrote:  

http://imgur.com/r/starlets/twIDE

Ariel Winter.

Don't care how old she is in that pic, I'd slam that so fucking hard she wouldn't be able to walk for weeks.

When 14 year olds look like that and you live in a society filled with age-gap shaming and puritan attitudes toward sexual maturity, there will be problems.

If you like that pic, don't visit jailbaitgallery.com, you'll be in there all day.

It's crazy how fast girls hit the wall. It all goes downhill after the early 20's. They still might look good but they'll never look as good.