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Why it's Better to Have Game than Value
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Why it's Better to Have Game than Value

A lot of "duh" threads on RVF about how getting ripped, rich, or famous will make getting laid easier.

That's all great, but..

If you have actual value- famous, rich, handsome/tall, the girl will want to cling to you.

If you have game and none of the above, than you can fuck the girl a few times, and when you get bored of her (usually after bang 2 or 4) she might decide to discontinue on her own. This saves a lot of energy/drama if you aren't looking to build a harem or an LTR; great if you just want to bang and don't want clingers.

So, bad boys win in this scenario over masters-of-the-universe alphas.

In a post modern world where real substance is out of style, game rules.
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#2

Why it's Better to Have Game than Value

^^ like the idea. But you just curb the bitch if she is clinging to you. Problem solved.
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#3

Why it's Better to Have Game than Value

Why I Have a Hamster
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Why it's Better to Have Game than Value

Yes, but, I've seen women do crazy shit to get men to do what they want. Mostly blackmail and false rape charges etc. I've seen peoples lives ruined by this kind of thing.

Shit, I just got a text from one the girls I'm banging, and she's threatening me. We hit it really late last night and she had to wake-up early this morning for work.

She sends me a text saying: "I slept through my alarm!!!!!!! If I get fired today, your life is over."

I don't even know how to respond to a text like that.

I can only imagine what kind of shit a woman would pull if she wanted to have a baby, or get money from me, etc.
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Why it's Better to Have Game than Value

Quote: (03-22-2013 10:56 AM)soup Wrote:  

Shit, I just got a text from one the girls I'm banging, and she's threatening me. We hit it really late last night and she had to wake-up early this morning for work.

She sends me a text saying: "I slept through my alarm!!!!!!! I get fired today, your life is over."

I don't even know how to respond to a text like that.

Meet this one online?
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Why it's Better to Have Game than Value

Quote: (03-22-2013 10:58 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (03-22-2013 10:56 AM)soup Wrote:  

Shit, I just got a text from one the girls I'm banging, and she's threatening me. We hit it really late last night and she had to wake-up early this morning for work.

She sends me a text saying: "I slept through my alarm!!!!!!! I get fired today, your life is over."

I don't even know how to respond to a text like that.

Meet this one online?

No.

I have had a deep mistrust of women since I was a child. I've seen them turn on a dime and fuck things up in the worst possible ways. They might be sweet like candy one minute, but they can turn into monsters and ruin your life the next.

It's not just about not pedestalizing women. In general, women are not on the same level with men in terms of morality. They are animals, and are only out for themselves (despite the propaganda that feminists want everyone to believe). Men go to war with each other, but we also built society. Hell, there wouldn't be a feminism if men didn't explore rationalism and philosophy.

The only thing you can trust in a woman is for her to not be trustworthy at all and to indulge her own selfish, hypergamous imperative above all else.
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Why it's Better to Have Game than Value

Quote: (03-22-2013 10:58 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (03-22-2013 10:56 AM)soup Wrote:  

Shit, I just got a text from one the girls I'm banging, and she's threatening me. We hit it really late last night and she had to wake-up early this morning for work.

She sends me a text saying: "I slept through my alarm!!!!!!! I get fired today, your life is over."

I don't even know how to respond to a text like that.

Meet this one online?

"Ha, we are over dont ever threaten me bitch" click
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Why it's Better to Have Game than Value

Quote: (03-22-2013 10:56 AM)soup Wrote:  

Yes, but, I've seen women do crazy shit to get men to do what they want. Mostly blackmail and false rape charges etc. I've seen peoples lives ruined by this kind of thing.

Shit, I just got a text from one the girls I'm banging, and she's threatening me. We hit it really late last night and she had to wake-up early this morning for work.

She sends me a text saying: "I slept through my alarm!!!!!!! I get fired today, your life is over."

I don't even know how to respond to a text like that.

I can only imagine what kind of shit a woman would pull if she wanted to have a baby, or get money from me, etc.


Keep us posted on that.
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Why it's Better to Have Game than Value

Quote: (03-22-2013 11:17 AM)Nascimento Wrote:  

Quote: (03-22-2013 10:56 AM)soup Wrote:  

Yes, but, I've seen women do crazy shit to get men to do what they want. Mostly blackmail and false rape charges etc. I've seen peoples lives ruined by this kind of thing.

Shit, I just got a text from one the girls I'm banging, and she's threatening me. We hit it really late last night and she had to wake-up early this morning for work.

She sends me a text saying: "I slept through my alarm!!!!!!! I get fired today, your life is over."

I don't even know how to respond to a text like that.

I can only imagine what kind of shit a woman would pull if she wanted to have a baby, or get money from me, etc.


Keep us posted on that.

I emailed those texts to my email account. At this point, I'm going to freeze her out. I can't think of anything else to do.

Taking suggestions here...
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Why it's Better to Have Game than Value

Quote: (03-22-2013 10:56 AM)soup Wrote:  

Shit, I just got a text from one the girls I'm banging, and she's threatening me. We hit it really late last night and she had to wake-up early this morning for work.

She sends me a text saying: "I slept through my alarm!!!!!!! I get fired today, your life is over."

I don't even know how to respond to a text like that.

As with 50% of all texts to women the reply should simply be "lol".
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Why it's Better to Have Game than Value

Quote: (03-22-2013 11:01 AM)soup Wrote:  

Quote: (03-22-2013 10:58 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (03-22-2013 10:56 AM)soup Wrote:  

Shit, I just got a text from one the girls I'm banging, and she's threatening me. We hit it really late last night and she had to wake-up early this morning for work.

She sends me a text saying: "I slept through my alarm!!!!!!! I get fired today, your life is over."

I don't even know how to respond to a text like that.

Meet this one online?

No.

Come on.

Be honest...
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Why it's Better to Have Game than Value

Ha the answer instead of lol is complete 100% radio silence.

This is funny though and is a recurring theme on how girls care most about their jobs. This is a pretty damn good theme going forward.

Get ready to choose, a fun handsome man or a shitty corporate career.

I would not respond to a single text or phone call. You have all the proof you need, she's done.
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Why it's Better to Have Game than Value

Quote: (03-22-2013 11:31 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (03-22-2013 11:01 AM)soup Wrote:  

Quote: (03-22-2013 10:58 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (03-22-2013 10:56 AM)soup Wrote:  

Shit, I just got a text from one the girls I'm banging, and she's threatening me. We hit it really late last night and she had to wake-up early this morning for work.

She sends me a text saying: "I slept through my alarm!!!!!!! I get fired today, your life is over."

I don't even know how to respond to a text like that.

Meet this one online?

No.

Come on.

Be honest...

I use whatever avenues are available to pull girls. In this case, I pulled her out of a bar: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-11951-...#pid382224
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#14

Why it's Better to Have Game than Value

Quote: (03-22-2013 11:25 AM)soup Wrote:  

Quote: (03-22-2013 11:17 AM)Nascimento Wrote:  

Quote: (03-22-2013 10:56 AM)soup Wrote:  

Yes, but, I've seen women do crazy shit to get men to do what they want. Mostly blackmail and false rape charges etc. I've seen peoples lives ruined by this kind of thing.

Shit, I just got a text from one the girls I'm banging, and she's threatening me. We hit it really late last night and she had to wake-up early this morning for work.

She sends me a text saying: "I slept through my alarm!!!!!!! I get fired today, your life is over."

I don't even know how to respond to a text like that.

I can only imagine what kind of shit a woman would pull if she wanted to have a baby, or get money from me, etc.


Keep us posted on that.

I emailed those texts to my email account. At this point, I'm going to freeze her out. I can't think of anything else to do.

Taking suggestions here...

I'm going to treat it as a case where you have not totally decided to freeze her out. Although I think this is quite reasonable given her absurd message. It's very rude, irresponsible and narcissistic for her to even joke like that.

I'd rather dream up a more widely applicable model than in this clear ditch-the-bitch situation.

I think an underlying principle which can offer hope is something I've heard attributed to Napoeon but am not sure about source:

Always presume stupidity before malevolence.

Let's make labels for someone like her as either being in S mode or M mode respectively. You don't yet know because text messages have no meta-data.

Let's model a woman's mind as something that:

a) Is solipsistic in that others exist only on terms of good-bad valence towards her-- you make me feel good or bad, period.

(All her morality stems from this. e.g., if you are Hitler roasting millions in ovens, but you give me a nice dress, you are "good.")

b) Is --time solipsistic?-- ( don't know if this is the right term) in that there is only NOW. Just like a child.
There was a great Janice Jackson song from the 80's "What have you done for me lately?" that helps to illustrate.

Now with women there's an upper bound and a lower average with how smart they are, as in reality smart-- being able to see cause-and-effect-- not book-smart, because book-smarts are just a combination of memory and obedience and stamina-- so this is relative, but a bitch who says this and it is not TOTALLY a joke is someone you probably should be phasing out, because she is going to keep dumping bullshit like this on you.

My own belief:
Try to hang out with the most intelligent people you can. It will make you better.


So in this case, lacking meta-data because there is no body language or voice tonality, one could translate her threat to:

"If I get fired, I'm going to feel really bad, and I can't accept responsibility, so I'll assign responsibility to you and at least temporarily view you as a source of problems, and be mad at you. "

I think this is one where the more time passes, the less likely there will be any real blowback.First of all because she's a chick she probably won't get fired unless she's already been fucking up repeatedly. If she's that much of a fuck-up you probably don't want her in your life anyway.

If she likes fucking you, her innate selfishness will tend to smooth things over and she will quickly forget the "bad thing you did" as quickly as she'll forget the good thing's you've done.

Let's analyze female hamster morality from an imaginary, honest female point of view with insight:

1) If anything bad happens to be, it's someone else's fault, because I feel like I am a good person.

2) I am too stupid to get revenge by living well, unless I carousel my way to temporary feelinggood. I generally can only get revenge by doing something negative ( like getting Pycon programmer fired) because I am- for example in this case- too dumb and/or lazy to learn to program Python myself.

3) I am lazy (except for posting to facebook or some other easy activity that gets me social attention or in some higher-functioning cases housekeeping if it soothes me) , short sighted like a child (forget quickly because I am busy posting on Facebook)

4) Be cause I am lazy and forgetful, I will usually only pursue revenge assiduously if the pursuit gets me further social or financial reward.

5) The saving grace for you bad people who have offended me, is that if YOU are a potential source of social/financial reward, after I am done being mad I may act as if nothing happened because I am not responsible for the vengeful things I did. Those were your fault, remember? I might then act as if I really like you and as if I am trustworthy, because that will then be the best way to get more social/financial reward. Of course you'd be an idiot to trust me.

So I think in this case I would advise:

1) Don't confront her as if she is in M-mode, it will force her to harden her position.

2) Talk to her with slight positive valence,, seeing you "support" her will help switch her from M to S mode if she is hovering.

3) If she is really in hard M mode, IDK-- maybe cut off all contact with her? Do you realistically see going the way of false rape accusations etc?


4) If not hard M; and you really want to put up with her, wait until she's iin a good mood and feel out the chance of schooling her on personal responsibility. Maybe make her send an email saying she liked fucking you.

"Against stupidity the Gods themselves struggle in vain."
--Goethe
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Quote: (03-22-2013 11:58 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

Quote: (03-22-2013 11:25 AM)soup Wrote:  

Quote: (03-22-2013 11:17 AM)Nascimento Wrote:  

Quote: (03-22-2013 10:56 AM)soup Wrote:  

Yes, but, I've seen women do crazy shit to get men to do what they want. Mostly blackmail and false rape charges etc. I've seen peoples lives ruined by this kind of thing.

Shit, I just got a text from one the girls I'm banging, and she's threatening me. We hit it really late last night and she had to wake-up early this morning for work.

She sends me a text saying: "I slept through my alarm!!!!!!! I get fired today, your life is over."

I don't even know how to respond to a text like that.

I can only imagine what kind of shit a woman would pull if she wanted to have a baby, or get money from me, etc.


Keep us posted on that.

I emailed those texts to my email account. At this point, I'm going to freeze her out. I can't think of anything else to do.

Taking suggestions here...

I'm going to treat it as a case where you have not totally decided to freeze her out. Although I think this is quite reasonable given her absurd message. It's very rude, irresponsible and narcissistic for her to even joke like that.

I'd rather dream up a more widely applicable model than in this clear ditch-the-bitch situation.

I think an underlying principle which can offer hope is something I've heard attributed to Napoeon but am not sure about source:

Always presume stupidity before malevolence.

Let's make labels for someone like her as either being in S mode or M mode respectively. You don't yet know because text messages have no meta-data.

Let's model a woman's mind as something that:

a) Is solipsistic in that others exist only on terms of good-bad valence towards her-- you make me feel good or bad, period.
(All morality stems from this. e.g., if you are Hitler roasting millions in ovens, but you give me a nice dress, you are "good.")
b) Is --solipsistic?-- ( don't know if this is the right term) in that there is only NOW. Just like a child. There was a great Janice Jackson song from the 80's "What have you done for me lately?" that helps to illustrate.


This leads to a principle of my own:

Try to hang out with the most intelligent people you can. It will make you better.


Now with women there's an upper bound and a lower average with how smart they are, as in reality smart-- being able to see cause-and-effect-- not book-smart, because book-smarts are just a combination of memory and obedience and stamina-- so this is relative, but a bitch who says this and it is not TOTALLY a joke is someone you probably should be phasing out, because she is going to keep dumping bullshit like this on you.

So in this case, lacking meta-data because there is no body language or voice tonality, one could translate her threat to:

"If I get fired, I'm going to feel really bad, and I can't accept responsibility, so I'll assign responsibility to you and at least temporarily view you as a source of problems, and be mad at you. "

I think this is one where the more time passes, the less likely there will be any real blowback.First of all because she's a chick she probably won't get fired unless she's already been fucking up repeatedly. If she's that much of a fuck-up you probably don't want her in your life anyway.

If she likes fucking you, her innate selfishness will tend to smooth things over and she will quickly forget the "bad thing you did" as quickly as she'll forget the good thing's you've done.

Let's analyze female hamster morality from an imaginary, honest female point of view with insight:

1) If anything bad happens to be, it's someone else's fault, because I feel like I am a good person.

2) I am too stupid to get revenge by living well, unless I carousel my way to temporary feelinggood. I generally can only get revenge by doing something negative ( like getting Pycon programmer fired) because I am- for example in this case- too dumb and/or lazy to learn to program Python myself.

3) I am lazy (except for posting to facebook or some other easy activity that gets me social attention or in some higher-functioning cases housekeeping if it soothes me) , short sighted like a child (forget quickly because I am busy posting on Facebook)

4) Be cause I am lazy and forgetful, I will usually only pursue revenge assiduously if the pursuit gets me further social or financial reward.

5) The saving grace for you bad people who have offended me, is that if YOU are a potential source of social/financial reward, after I am done being mad I may act as if nothing happened because I am not responsible for the vengeful things I did. Those were your fault, remember? I might then act as if I really like you and as if I am trustworthy, because that will then be the best way to get more social/financial reward. Of course you'd be an idiot to trust me.

So I think in this case I would advise:

1) Don't confront her as if she is in M-mode, it will force her to harden her position.

2) Talk to her with slight positive valence,, seeing you "support" her will help switch her from M to S mode if she is hovering.

3) If she is really in hard M mode, IDK-- maybe cut off all contact with her? Do you realistically see going the way of false rape accusations etc?


4) If not hard M; and you really want to put up with her, wait until she's iin a good mood and feel out the chance of schooling her on personal responsibility. Maybe make her send an email saying she liked fucking you.

"Against stupidity the Gods themselves struggle in vain."
--Goethe

I can always find new girls to bang. I don't want a mess.

I'd like to cut her off completely. I thought she would be cool with just booty calls and fuck buddies etc., but she started giving me talk yesterday about how she doesn't normally do this kind of thing (yeah right) and how she was upset that I rainchecked her last week (in order to try for new pussy). Most important thing for me is for this not to escalate.

Freeze out seems like the only option.

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I also think that you can make a girl break with you if you intentionally fuck her badly.
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Quote: (03-22-2013 11:01 AM)soup Wrote:  

Quote: (03-22-2013 10:58 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (03-22-2013 10:56 AM)soup Wrote:  

Shit, I just got a text from one the girls I'm banging, and she's threatening me. We hit it really late last night and she had to wake-up early this morning for work.

She sends me a text saying: "I slept through my alarm!!!!!!! I get fired today, your life is over."

I don't even know how to respond to a text like that.

Meet this one online?

No.

I have had a deep mistrust of women since I was a child. I've seen them turn on a dime and fuck things up in the worst possible ways. They might be sweet like candy one minute, but they can turn into monsters and ruin your life the next.

It's not just about not pedestalizing women. In general, women are not on the same level with men in terms of morality. They are animals, and are only out for themselves (despite the propaganda that feminists want everyone to believe). Men go to war with each other, but we also built society. Hell, there wouldn't be a feminism if men didn't explore rationalism and philosophy.

The only thing you can trust in a woman is for her to not be trustworthy at all and to indulge her own selfish, hypergamous imperative above all else.

My experience is exactly the opposite. Women have always provide for and protected me my whole life. BUT then again, I didn't grow up in America [Image: smile.gif]
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Why it's Better to Have Game than Value

I second @iknowexactly on this... pretty much it's a stupid joke-like message from her, I would not read much into it besides the fact that she is a stupid chick who can't take responsibility for her actions. It basically says "you got me potentially into trouble (cause I was late), so I will shift all the blame to you and make you feel guilty".

I would reply with a simple "haha good luck", "lol" or nothing at all.

Don't know the context so can't advise whether to freeze her out or not.

"Bitches ain't nothin' but hoes and tricks"
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