I thought about it briefly and there's no way to answer OP's question to the level of satisfaction he wants either as yes or no.

Thus, ultimately it's just philosophy. What's more important to you your philosophy or achieving your goals? The guys on here are saying this ethical structure is ill suited for these goals.

Quote: (03-17-2013 05:52 PM)j r Wrote:  

Fancy degrees ...

I'm not talking about bullshit masters in "International Relationships" from study-abroad programs attached to a prestigious name. I'm talking about Ph.D.'s in physics, M.D.'s, Ivy League professors, etc.

Quote: (03-18-2013 11:37 AM)Divorco Wrote:  

Quote: (03-17-2013 05:52 PM)j r Wrote:  

Fancy degrees ...

I'm not talking about bullshit masters in "International Relationships" from study-abroad programs attached to a prestigious name. I'm talking about Ph.D.'s in physics, M.D.'s, Ivy League professors, etc.

A few of us went to college...didn't see many (any?) hot professors, which is area all those fancy degree having women would be....

Good luck finding your unicorn.

Quote: (03-16-2013 06:17 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Once a doc starts shooting 250 mgs of test into your shoulder every week, you'll be a new man in 8 weeks.

Wow, this is great. But I have one question. What is a safe dose to avoid 'roid rage and forum meltdowns like you?

Quote: (03-18-2013 11:37 AM)Divorco Wrote:  

Quote: (03-17-2013 05:52 PM)j r Wrote:  

Fancy degrees ...

I'm not talking about bullshit masters in "International Relationships" from study-abroad programs attached to a prestigious name. I'm talking about Ph.D.'s in physics, M.D.'s, Ivy League professors, etc.

I have my Ph.D. in physics from one of the top 5. In grad school I dated these chicks-the physics Ph.D.s, the M.D.s and the next generation of Ivy League profs. They are all the same. If anything they're sluttier than your average chick on the street. It takes nearly zero game to get them into bed if you're in their circle but without the kind of game that Roosh et al. preach they're going to start fucking the next rising star behind your back. You might think that smart girls would have less of a need to rationalize their behavior but it's really the opposite. They just take that imagination and apply it to coming up with the most ridiculous reasons for their behavior.

Quote: (03-18-2013 07:27 PM)houston Wrote:  

I love this gif and generally know it's Houston posting it before glancing to the left.

Quote: (03-18-2013 07:22 PM)Divorco Wrote:  

Quote: (03-16-2013 06:17 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Once a doc starts shooting 250 mgs of test into your shoulder every week, you'll be a new man in 8 weeks.

Wow, this is great. But I have one question. What is a safe dose to avoid 'roid rage and forum meltdowns like you?

This is my last post in trying to help Divorco out. He is trapped in his own mind and this is not going to change no matter what Ensam posted above nor anything I write on here. The chances are he has me on ignore and even worse thinks I am a lying D-bag. That last word is probably right though!

Lower expectations over deliver, that comment is for divorco only and he'll quickly understand how I applied "Wall Street Game" to this very damn forum.

Being overtly optimistic, I will happily bet anything I own that if he escapes his elitist/pedigree/logical therefore argumentation mindset applied to women he'll be the number one person to go talk to for reversing your mindset and improving social skills with women in a logical fashion. If not I still hope he gets this "unicorn" he is chasing. Regardless of being a Stanford PHD or hood rat stripper, women are entirely mood driven. In fact from experience it is HARDER to bed a 21 year old party girl than a 28 year old phd because she believes game does not work. In addition, the reason why you have better success with "educated" people is because they don't feel you judging them. A Bombshell 21 year old is much more socially aware than a Triple PHD at Yale, because all her time has been spent getting hit on by guys. The chances of her banging some guy who doesn't even respect her as a human being and views her as "lower than him" is ZERO.

There is no way you go through what I would bet is 35+ years of financial success, academic + pocket money wise, by following the rules to the exact T and flip that switch overnight to no longer believe in it. The guy probably spent years going through higher education/resumes screening out the shit schools IE "HYPSM" is not even good enough to him. Shit I do this all the time too because it is protocol.

To be honest I do not know if I would be able to do this either.

I do hope he gets it, he'll be a massively helpful resource. If not, again I hope he finds that unicorn, but it is in fact a Unicorn you are asking for a mind that does not factually exist.

Quote: (03-18-2013 07:22 PM)Divorco Wrote:  

Quote: (03-16-2013 06:17 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Once a doc starts shooting 250 mgs of test into your shoulder every week, you'll be a new man in 8 weeks.

Wow, this is great. But I have one question. What is a safe dose to avoid 'roid rage and forum meltdowns like you?

Naturally high.

Feels great.

You should try feeling like a man for once in your life.

You will never go back to a life of whining and being emo about unicorn women.

I fucked a girl with a masters in explosives engineering. She was super slutty and very kinky. On the outside, she seemed 100% respectable -4.0 GPA, math whiz, capable of intelligent conversations about politics, current events, and other topics where women are usually clueless... and liked to be pounded in my old Chrysler convertible with the top down by the side of a gravel road where anyone might drive by.

Education (real education, not some BA in Communications) means a chick has above average intelligence. It has no bearing, as far as I can tell, on her morals, despite our ingrained cultural assumption that only poor girls who have nothing to lose are down for extramarital fun in the sack. Maybe 100 years ago middle class morals were higher, but nowadays parents and society do not apply much pressure to insure this, so middle class (read: educated) chicks feel perfectly free to fuck around -they have hormones and a sex drive too, after all. They're just slightly more discreet about it, and may not have the social temperament to flaunt it like a former cheerleader party girl does.

Quote: (03-16-2013 06:17 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Divorco, you're an older guy?

Go here, immediately:

http://www.drlife.com

There is no point having cash but having low testosterone, saggy skin, and bad overall health.

Your posts reek of beta, so you're probably giving off a "low testosterone vibe" in real life, too.

Once a doc starts shooting 250 mgs of test into your shoulder every week, you'll be a new man in 8 weeks. Women will even start noticing you after a few weeks, as your phermones will have changed.

Mike, do you do this?

Can you break this down a little more?

Experiences, cost, where you go etc?

Or have you done a post on this before?

Ah, now i get it.

This is the kind of woman Divorco goes for:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21797-...#pid396059


That's not my type, but I'm not gonna hate on another guy for having a different type.

HOWEVER, it does explain the disagreements. You could give that girl a MD/PHd and I'd still have no interest in dating her.

So, no, you're probably not going to find many educated, 48-year-old women out at the bars. In that sense Divorco is right.

You can keep her, bro.

Quote: (03-19-2013 04:08 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (03-16-2013 06:17 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Divorco, you're an older guy?

Go here, immediately:

http://www.drlife.com

There is no point having cash but having low testosterone, saggy skin, and bad overall health.

Your posts reek of beta, so you're probably giving off a "low testosterone vibe" in real life, too.

Once a doc starts shooting 250 mgs of test into your shoulder every week, you'll be a new man in 8 weeks. Women will even start noticing you after a few weeks, as your phermones will have changed.

Mike, do you do this?

Can you break this down a little more?

Experiences, cost, where you go etc?

Or have you done a post on this before?

Me and another guy (mikeymike or something?) tried having a thread.

It was immediately filled with haters and trolls. Guys here are willing to accept that "The media lied to me about feminism" and yet they quote the media when it comes to testosterone and other powerful hormones.

So I wont' discuss subjects like that here. It just fills up with garbage too quickly and is not worth the hassle.

I got banned a day before because retards were posting retarded shit and I called them out. So I can't really follow forum rules in a thread like that.

However, let's say say that Randy "The Natural" Couture owes much of his longevity to being granted an exemption to use TRT.

Dan Henderson is on TRT.

Chael Sonnen.

Vitor Belfort.

Frank Mir.

Some data/info here:

http://dangerandplay.com/2013/01/17/he-h...t-therapy/

Short story: Go to a progressive doctor to get your testosterone levels measured. If they fall below a certain level, he'll give you a legal script for testosterone.

You shoot up once a week and your life changes completely.

Read that "He Hormone" article Andrew Sullivan wrote.

Lots of guys in their 30s need to learn this stuff and after a certain age (late 30s/early 40s for most) pretty much every guy needs to get on T.

Is it better to get on T or HGH? I'm planning on doing this around 36 or 37.

Quote: (03-19-2013 07:40 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Ah, now i get it.

This is the kind of woman Divorco goes for:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21797-...#pid396059


That's not my type, but I'm not gonna hate on another guy for having a different type.

HOWEVER, it does explain the disagreements. You could give that girl a MD/PHd and I'd still have no interest in dating her.

So, no, you're probably not going to find many educated, 48-year-old women out at the bars. In that sense Divorco is right.

You can keep her, bro.

Dating, no; having kids, maybe. Not hating - just can see the reason for wanting credentials in some cases. But if you're not in the market for a spouse and mother, the point of diminishing returns on intelligence after "won't embarrass me in public" comes pretty quickly.

One of my profs in grad school was on Testosterone supplements. He was always slightly effeminate, but his face leaned out after about 6-months. He looked much happier.

I believe he was on a low dosage T-supplement. Not really sure about much more.

My old boxing coach takes Testosterone and even HGH sometimes.

He calls them "The Miracle Workers"

Injuries heal in a fraction of the time. It seems to slow aging and restore the body to 110%.

I will do it in another few years.

Thanks MikeCF.

Quote: (03-19-2013 08:54 PM)Ensam Wrote:  

Is it better to get on T or HGH? I'm planning on doing this around 36 or 37.

Depends.

HGH heals old nagging injuries. It doesn't alter the physique or give an energy boost. It's not a "feeling." But the nagging aches and pains go away after 3-6 months.

Testosterone is a shot of being 16 years old again...'cept you now have the judgment and impulse control of an older man.

Quote: (03-19-2013 07:47 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Read that "He Hormone" article Andrew Sullivan wrote.

Andrew Sullivan Has AIDS Dementia Complex

IIRC, he was outed for placing personal ads seeking unprotected gay sex.

Quote: (03-20-2013 05:12 PM)Divorco Wrote:  

Quote: (03-19-2013 07:47 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Read that "He Hormone" article Andrew Sullivan wrote.

Andrew Sullivan Has AIDS Dementia Complex

IIRC, he was outed for placing personal ads seeking unprotected gay sex.

He posted ads saying he was HIV+ and wanted to have sex with people who were also + or knew the risks. Should he instead strap on a condom to bang those fine 48-year-old women you are after?

As for his mental health. Yeah, poor, poor Andrew:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2013/03/0...doing-fine

Quote:Quote:

The usual way bloggers make money (if they make money at all) is to sell advertising. But Sullivan figured he could get his devoted reader base to pay. Within the first week, he'd raised half a million dollars. By the end of about two months, the total had crept up to $625,000.

The goal, for him and his staff of about eight employees, is to raise roughly a million dollars by the end of the year.

By the way, just to show you how silly the link from Dorko is, check this out:

http://www.webmd.com/hiv-aids/guide/aids...g-syndrome

The biggest problem with HIV/AIDS people is wasting away.

Andrew Sullivan went from wasting away to thriving.

Truly limp-wristed (though ostensibly heterosexual) men who are afraid of testosterone like to snipe at Sullivan's use. That's weird to me. How can a man be afraid of testosterone, the hormone at the very essence of being a man?

And why are conservatives so obsessed with his sex life? I remember when the story about the Andrew Sullivan gay personal ad hit. Matt Druge and Breitbart had a field day with it.

Here's the backstory (though it may "arouse" some "conservative" men):

Quote:Quote:

Like many a preacher and politician before him, Andrew Sullivan, the neoconservative gay pundit, was caught with his pants down. The story goes like this: Some time ago, Sullivan, who is HIV positive, took out an anonymous personal ad on a website called Barebackcity.com, which advertises itself as the "one stop source for bareback [i.e., unprotected anal] sex." He listed himself under the screen name "RawMuscleGlutes," posted two headless photographs, and solicited bareback sex, preferably (although he did not say only) with other HIV-positive men.

I could have cared less. Why would anyone care? It's not like he lied about having HIV and went around infecting people. He said he had HIV and if another guy were DTF, to hit up him.

Why do conservatives care so much about whom gay men are fucking?

Quote: (03-20-2013 05:55 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Andrew Sullivan went from wasting away to thriving.

Quote: (03-19-2013 11:24 PM)jdevoy Wrote:  

Quote: (03-19-2013 07:40 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Ah, now i get it.

This is the kind of woman Divorco goes for:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21797-...#pid396059


That's not my type, but I'm not gonna hate on another guy for having a different type.

HOWEVER, it does explain the disagreements. You could give that girl a MD/PHd and I'd still have no interest in dating her.

So, no, you're probably not going to find many educated, 48-year-old women out at the bars. In that sense Divorco is right.

You can keep her, bro.

Dating, no; having kids, maybe. Not hating - just can see the reason for wanting credentials in some cases. But if you're not in the market for a spouse and mother, the point of diminishing returns on intelligence after "won't embarrass me in public" comes pretty quickly.

If you're willing to fuck this chick you should be banned for being a closet homosexual, that doesn't even look like a woman.

Come on guys, that's one of those "what the fuck did I drink last night" moments.

@jdevoy I'm disappointed in that comment from all your posts come on!!!!!! You're better than that! Having kids? She wouldn't even need to push the baby out that shit is so loose after guy number 7,000 rails her, ha'

Quote: (03-21-2013 07:57 AM)Divorco Wrote:  

Quote: (03-20-2013 05:55 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Andrew Sullivan went from wasting away to thriving.

Damn, bro, you are all up in his biz.

Sure you're not repressing something?

That would explain your attraction to "women" with prominent, masculine features.

We won't judge....