I have wanted to post this, but I also didn't want to start a bunch of controversy and people questioning me and starting a bunch of fights on here.

But basically, I kept track of all the girls I have met in the first two months of moving to a new city. (It is a large American city known for high competition and beautiful women, which you guys can probably figure out which one it is). I stopped after two months because my pipe was too stacked and I didn't really need to care anymore.

I did this in Montreal I believe as well and I might be able to dig up that info as well. Which could be interesting as a comparison. Also, I have never really done this before so this data is unique from me.

I think you guys would find it interesting and somewhat surprising. I have had second thoughts of posting it. But I think it might be real valuable for people in The Game to see. Keep in mind, I have been doing this stuff since I was a kid, so it can give you a good gauge for people to see what their futures hold.

But I only want to do it if you guys want to see, and I don't want to start a hurricane of drama.

Let me know.

Post in the poll or post below.

Im guessing somewhere in the ballpark of 115%

150%

Half the lizards giving two numbers.

City, I'm guessing Miami.

Id like to see

I'll say that 50% of the girls who you approached gave you their numbers and the conversation rate with girls who gave you their numbers was 20%.

Important info.

I think that this ratio is the best way to judge skills.

You see something. You want it. Can you get it?

First 2 months in a large American City known for high competition and beautiful women? It's NYC or Miami but from your recent posts and love on SOBE my $$$ is on Miami. 2 months, you go out 3-4 nights a week so that is let's say 30-40 nights on the town. You have a post on how to swoop 100 fly girls in a year. You also posted approaching 15 women a night or whatever it it takes so we know you won't give up. Going out 4 nights a week for 2 months in SOBE? 15 girls in 2 months will get you real close to 100? I have a feeling the number is more like 25 bangs. Break it down brother!

I'm going to posit that since you roll out custom suited down and clearly know how to project a solid image, you get a lot of initial interest from girls you approach. However, high competition/beautiful women arenas mean the natural inclination to flake goes through the roof - both from the girls and from you. I'd say with traditional approach - number close - swoop game your conversion rates are something like 100%/30-40%/5-10%, and that you actually bat slightly higher on swoops (~15-20%) from same-night pulls.

sure let's have it, G

What type of quality we talking here G.

8 or above?

Quote: (01-14-2013 09:36 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

Im guessing somewhere in the ballpark of 115%

On a bad day.

Quote: (01-14-2013 08:35 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

I have wanted to post this, but I also didn't want to start a bunch of controversy and people questioning me and starting a bunch of fights on here.

But basically, I kept track of all the girls I have met in the first two months of moving to a new city. (It is a large American city known for high competition and beautiful women, which you guys can probably figure out which one it is). I stopped after two months because my pipe was too stacked and I didn't really need to care anymore.

I did this in Montreal I believe as well and I might be able to dig up that info as well. Which could be interesting as a comparison. Also, I have never really done this before so this data is unique from me.

I think you guys would find it interesting and somewhat surprising. I have had second thoughts of posting it. But I think it might be real valuable for people in The Game to see. Keep in mind, I have been doing this stuff since I was a kid, so it can give you a good gauge for people to see what their futures hold.

But I only want to do it if you guys want to see, and I don't want to start a hurricane of drama.

Let me know.

Post in the poll or post below.

Give it up;this after all is roosh v-that's what we're about! In Nairobi my f close rate is abysmal. You guys whine about DC,Toronto,Montreal and Miami,try being a black dude in the land of boring,conservative,pretentious,dishonest and materialistic hoes. I estimate on the highest its maybe 8%.
However when in Dar,Kampala or Kigali the same approaches give me easily at least a 30% f close. More proof that in the game location is king!

Let the legend live.

*f5 f5 f5 f5*

I'm guessing somewhere near 25-30%. I'm sure his preselection is good but random BS and flakes pop up here and there. I would like to see.

Quote: (01-15-2013 01:46 AM)rationalize_this Wrote:  

What type of quality we talking here G.

8 or above?

My girls go to 11 fool.

Just playing, I don't use the 1-10 scale.

To me, it is girls I will swoop and girls I wont.

Although I will say, my standards are probably lower than any guy on this forum.

For instance, I actually would swoop Kate Upton, Scarlett Johannassoonnn, and Rhianna if given the chance, unlike the majority of guys on here.

G has repeatedly said that he's been rejected more times than anyone else. However the point to that statement was that he approaches more than anyone else as well.

I'm guessing 15%.

Who cares about ratios. I'd prefer to get blown out for 5 hours straight if the last girl of the night would fit me ideally.

I am sorry my fellow player. Once our ladies here in nairobi find out that you are from states thel they all see you as a walking ATM. Can I ask what kind of game were you running? I think next time you are here try selling them the american dream! To f close, .
Give it up;this after all is roosh v-that's what we're about! In Nairobi my f close rate is abysmal. You guys whine about DC,Toronto,Montreal and Miami,try being a black dude in the land of boring,conservative,pretentious,dishonest and materialistic hoes. I estimate on the highest its maybe 8%.
However when in Dar,Kampala or Kigali the same approaches give me easily at least a 30% f close. More proof that in the game location is king!
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Voted no. Don't see how it helps results. If its low or high conversion... Doesn't help me in any way.

ACV, Suit threads are more valuable.

A guy I hung out with recently approached chicks all the time, whenever there was an opportunity he just went for it. He got blown out loads but rarely harshly, a blow out to him was just like water off a ducks back it literally didn't register at all. If there was another opportunity ten seconds later off he'd go.

Voted no, because it conversion rates are basically worthless.

If you approach hotter than average girls: Your conversion rate is low.
If you approach uglies: You conversion rate is high.

If you approach in a social circle setting at the VIP section: Your conversion is high.
If you cold-approach: Your conversion is low.

So many factors to consider, it's just not worth having the raw data alone.

Quote: (01-15-2013 12:34 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Voted no, because it conversion rates are basically worthless.

If you approach hotter than average girls: Your conversion rate is low.
If you approach uglies: You conversion rate is high.

If you approach in a social circle setting at the VIP section: Your conversion is high.
If you cold-approach: Your conversion is low.

So many factors to consider, it's just not worth having the raw data alone.

This is a really good point.

I will give the exact situation I am in, and it is a situation that I think a lot of us find ourselves in: New city, trying to build the pipe, rolling solo, exploring, experimenting with venues, locking places down, etc

It won't be the end all be all by any stretch. But I think it will give an interesting Data point for discussion and thought.

That is if enough of you want to see it.

I am interested in seeing this information. I want to see what is possible.

Most guys don't even know what or how to lock down places...
With that said everyone would read it but the guys who know how game works won't get any tangible value from it.

Would be like reading about how many girls xyz athlete/celeb/lawyer pulled. Like a snapple fact.

Eg: agree with Sam. Location is also huge.