As with any country, go to the smaller cities, or even better country towns; you will do much better. Sydney is full of backpackers, no one is anything special. Melbourne kills Sydney in terms of nightlife, food etc, it is a very cosmopolitan city. It is hugely multicultural to the degree that I actually stand out more because I have blonde hair and blue eyes, white anglo heritage. Depends on the area also though.

Most girls in rural Australia look like they've been hit in the face with bricks. A girl who moved from Perth that I met today told me that it's boring and lacks good nightlife and that can only get worse in smaller towns... Unless its on the beach like Byron, Lorne, Newcastle etc during summer

Im talking townsville, cairns, wollongong etc, though these places are small and not much happening till the weekends. I have been out in country pubs, on road trips would only be good, true the girls can be a bit rough, but some are decent enough, never the less still fun when your drunk and just passing through.

Having grown up in rural Australia, I have to agree with PDog on this one. Just look at the rates of obesity in rural areas - will give America a run for it's money. The ratio isn't crash hot either, especially in Northern Queensland where all the miners holiday.

In saying this - steer clear of the GOLD COAST. Go if you want to see Jersey Shore of Australia. If you literally Drive 50mins south to Byron Bay you will have a much better and authentic experience in comparison. Other than that - stick to the big cities (Melbourne and Sydney) and you won't go wrong ;-)

if you are young and very good looking u will have a ball in sydney, gold coast and melbourne. loads of drunk single girls out at clubs on weekends looking to hook up. night game is key.

IMO sydney has the hottest girls-and there are some from all over the world-aussies, europeans, brazilians and hot asians.

but like i said u got to be young and good looking.

Quote: (11-29-2012 02:37 AM)garygroundwork Wrote:  

if you are young and very good looking u will have a ball in sydney, gold coast and melbourne. loads of drunk single girls out at clubs on weekends looking to hook up. night game is key.

IMO sydney has the hottest girls-and there are some from all over the world-aussies, europeans, brazilians and hot asians.

but like i said u got to be young and good looking.

Melbourne has a rep for having good daygame. Not sure where that originated from but I hear it over and over. I don't get why so many people are on about looks in this thread though.

I bet that if Roosh came down under, he'd find us barely any different from America. That said, he still needs to come at some point.

mate looks a key in oz to get the hot young girls

u don't see ugly on cunts walking around with young stunners like u do in asia and some parts of south america

u see hot young girls with good looking guys with good bodies

Quote: (11-29-2012 03:38 AM)garygroundwork Wrote:  

mate looks a key in oz to get the hot young girls

u don't see ugly on cunts walking around with young stunners like u do in asia and some parts of south america

u see hot young girls with good looking guys with good bodies

I do realize it's completely pointless trying to change your mind on this, but here I go...

Of course looks help, but I see way too many average dudes with hot girls and way too many jacked Zyzz wannabes with busted fatties on a daily basis to take that self defeatist crap seriously.

Guys on another thread where talking about the jacked guidos with fat dog chicks phenomenon in America, exact same thing goes here.

Quote: (11-28-2012 07:01 PM)Prophylaxis Wrote:  

Having grown up in rural Australia, I have to agree with PDog on this one. Just look at the rates of obesity in rural areas - will give America a run for it's money. The ratio isn't crash hot either, especially in Northern Queensland where all the miners holiday.

In saying this - steer clear of the GOLD COAST. Go if you want to see Jersey Shore of Australia. If you literally Drive 50mins south to Byron Bay you will have a much better and authentic experience in comparison. Other than that - stick to the big cities (Melbourne and Sydney) and you won't go wrong ;-)

Must agree on the Gold Coast, although the beaches of jersy shore are like a rubbish tip compered to gold coast; I lived on the gold coast for 3 years in my early 20s, it is the most pretentious fucked up shit hole I have ever lived in. I rolled with a large bunch of mates, never had that much rejection in my life, neither had they.

Quote: (11-29-2012 05:51 AM)kazz Wrote:  

Quote: (11-28-2012 07:01 PM)Prophylaxis Wrote:  

Having grown up in rural Australia, I have to agree with PDog on this one. Just look at the rates of obesity in rural areas - will give America a run for it's money. The ratio isn't crash hot either, especially in Northern Queensland where all the miners holiday.

In saying this - steer clear of the GOLD COAST. Go if you want to see Jersey Shore of Australia. If you literally Drive 50mins south to Byron Bay you will have a much better and authentic experience in comparison. Other than that - stick to the big cities (Melbourne and Sydney) and you won't go wrong ;-)

Must agree on the Gold Coast, although the beaches of jersy shore are like a rubbish tip compered to gold coast; I lived on the gold coast for 3 years in my early 20s, it is the most pretentious fucked up shit hole I have ever lived in. I rolled with a large bunch of mates, never had that much rejection in my life, neither had they. Even Toronto was a pussy paradise compared....

Quote: (11-29-2012 04:25 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

Quote: (11-29-2012 03:38 AM)garygroundwork Wrote:  

mate looks a key in oz to get the hot young girls

u don't see ugly on cunts walking around with young stunners like u do in asia and some parts of south america

u see hot young girls with good looking guys with good bodies

I do realize it's completely pointless trying to change your mind on this, but here I go...

Of course looks help, but I see way too many average dudes with hot girls and way too many jacked Zyzz wannabes with busted fatties on a daily basis to take that self defeatist crap seriously.

Guys on another thread where talking about the jacked guidos with fat dog chicks phenomenon in America, exact same thing goes here.

defiantely agree with how u see good looking or jacked blokes with fugly women...defiantely

BUT my point is if an older/ out of shape/ ugly guy etc thinks he is coming to australia and going to pull hot tail he is kidding himself.

This whole forum seems to have a bit of a dim view of New Zealand. Sure the biggest city may have 1.5 million people, for the size of the place it has great night life. Wellington has more clubs and bars per capital than New York all concentrated in a very compact cbd. It is a city which may not have great weather, it has the feel of a much larger city and awesome nightlife. The adult industry is legalized over there and strip clubs are some of the best you will see. Calendar Girls has clubs all over the country and have quality girls. Sure the country has a drinking culture and is rugby mad, don't overlook the place. The women are much more approachable than Aussie women, an Aussie 8 has ten times the attitude of a Kiwi 9 for that mater. There are a lot of travellers there and a pretty diverse population, it is far less of an Anglo country and becoming very cosmopolitan. Christchurch is also a city which is about to undergo a major transformation. A single guys would be foolish to turn his nose up at NZ.

Quote: (11-28-2012 10:03 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

Most girls in rural Australia look like they've been hit in the face with bricks. A girl who moved from Perth that I met today told me that it's boring and lacks good nightlife and that can only get worse in smaller towns... Unless its on the beach like Byron, Lorne, Newcastle etc during summer

This.

Lived in rural Australia for 4 months, women are very average.

Stick to Sydney, Melbourne, and east coast. Especially suburbs by the beach; the women really look after themselves.

As for NZ, I don't see any point trying to posit any Anglo country (yes, NZ is very anglo) as a good place to go for girls. If you are, well, you deal with it and adapt. NZ is a great place to go for many other reasons, but the girls are not one that comes to mind as standing out!

Personally, for me it goes something like this (from worse to better than worse)

1. UK
2. New Zealand
3. Australia
4. United States
5. Canada

and then everywhere else is up to debate...

First of all have you actually been there and when? I have never recommended going there for the girls as a main purpose it does have much better quality than I when I grew up there. Check this out, it might dispell some negative preconceived idea.http://www.calendargirls.co.nz/

http://www.calendargirls.co.nz/

Quote: (11-30-2012 06:45 PM)3extra Wrote:  

Quote: (11-28-2012 10:03 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

Most girls in rural Australia look like they've been hit in the face with bricks. A girl who moved from Perth that I met today told me that it's boring and lacks good nightlife and that can only get worse in smaller towns... Unless its on the beach like Byron, Lorne, Newcastle etc during summer

This.

Lived in rural Australia for 4 months, women are very average.

Stick to Sydney, Melbourne, and east coast. Especially suburbs by the beach; the women really look after themselves.

In Sydney especially the suburbs by the beach are at the top of socio-economic food chain so the girls are noticeably thinner, better looking and in my opinion, easier to get along with.

Thought I'd share this with you all by the way...

That's pretty hardcore Kazz, to get so much rejection like that, it doesn't surprise me a great deal, I have heard similar reports. I have lived in Oz and NZ and for a guy in that age bracket, NZ is pretty good, there are some reasonable beaches, Tauranga and Mount Maunganui has a good share of beach babes. As for NZ being Anglo, it has 75% European/Anglo population, Maoris, Polynesians and Asian/Other make up the rest of the population. Very multi cultural even by American standards and they have a policy which is encouraging more immigration. I live on the Sunshine Coast and it seems everyone either has a heap of kids or are retirees. The beaches are great and it is getting pretty hot right now.

      

From Gunnedah NSW lads, well till she was 13 anyway

Haha, thanks for all the enthusiastic inputs. I've taken everyone's opinion into consideration and have decided to go to Bondi Beach. For 2 main reasons -

Volume of girls
International touristy crowd

For guys who are gonna post in a city for 1 month+, I think they would have a much higher chance of scoring with a top shelf local girl. If I am in town for less than 1 week, I am not gonna pass up on hooking up with tourist girls who are on average easier.

Quote: (12-01-2012 10:38 PM)Magic Bullets Wrote:  

That's pretty hardcore Kazz, to get so much rejection like that, it doesn't surprise me a great deal, I have heard similar reports. I have lived in Oz and NZ and for a guy in that age bracket, NZ is pretty good, there are some reasonable beaches, Tauranga and Mount Maunganui has a good share of beach babes. As for NZ being Anglo, it has 75% European/Anglo population, Maoris, Polynesians and Asian/Other make up the rest of the population. Very multi cultural even by American standards and they have a policy which is encouraging more immigration. I live on the Sunshine Coast and it seems everyone either has a heap of kids or are retirees. The beaches are great and it is getting pretty hot right now.

Another fact, the South Island of NZ has less NZ'ers in it than the NZ'ers that have moved to Australia, its all one way traffic and out of control.

We need to put up a fence!, they are the nicest import people of the lot that come here, and they are also the most similar to us, almost brothers [like you lot, ie USA and Canada brotherhood] but we are very full, sorry guys, stay in NZ, we welcome NZ females only

"Lifes about, shooting your load"

Quote: (12-02-2012 06:27 PM)RASER Wrote:  

Another fact, the South Island of NZ has less NZ'ers in it than the NZ'ers that have moved to Australia, its all one way traffic and out of control.

That's why people here say that New Zealand's women are ugly, because all the young cut ones move to Melbourne and Sydney.

Quote: (12-02-2012 10:54 PM)P Dog Wrote:  

Quote: (12-02-2012 06:27 PM)RASER Wrote:  

Another fact, the South Island of NZ has less NZ'ers in it than the NZ'ers that have moved to Australia, its all one way traffic and out of control.

That's why people here say that New Zealand's women are ugly, because all the young cut ones move to Melbourne and Sydney.

There are around one million people in the South Island, I realise there are upwards of 45,000 coming to Australia each year, many are returning, last figure I looked at said there were around 500,000 or slightly over in Australia, many are migrant who are not Kiwis. They use NZ as a backdoor to get to Oz. Sorry your figure on the South Island is way off/

http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&tbo=d&rl...80&bih=610