Forget Kobe vs. Lebron, Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, and all the other matchups guys love to dream up. The fight of the century, the one that matters most is Ukraine vs. Sweden, the two countries that reputedly have the hottest women on the planet.

A friend posted a question for naughtynomad on his blog regarding Ukrainian vs Swedish women, and now I'm curious as well.

For those of you guys who have been to both countries, based on physical looks only, which country has the hotter girls?

Based on observation (I haven't been to either place yet), it seems Swedish women tend to have nicer noses and Ukrainian women tend to have nicer jawlines/facial shapes.

Scandinavian girls are also the only white girls that I have specifically heard have 'the ass'. That is, you get sort of a white, blonde-haired, blue-eyed girl with a latina's hips and ass. That's what I've heard. Eastern European chicks tend to be very skinny and usually don't have that kind of booty.

I dont know Ukranian girls, but swedish girls isnt as curvy as latinas..more skinny in my experience.

There is no such thing as a Country with the hottest women, there are hot wimin everywhere.

it depends on what you like. maybe you like big butted latinas, in which case neither is correct. different countries for different folks.

Who says they are hottest in the planet? There is no such thing as aesthetic absolutism. Before I used to think Latina women were the hottest but I have had enough drop dead gorgeous white girls, sexy as hell black girls, hell even goth chicks had made me do the hundred dash for the number.

There is no hottest women on the planet.

Quote: (08-16-2010 10:57 PM)raskol Wrote:  

Forget Kobe vs. Lebron, Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, and all the other matchups guys love to dream up. The fight of the century, the one that matters most is Ukraine vs. Sweden, the two countries that reputedly have the hottest women on the planet.

It is funny that you compare a country with 9M population versus the country with 45M population

But overall this is a stupid question as hotness is very subjective, and personal estimates are so different that they make little to no sense.

Just an example, I'm not into Latinos, and into Asians. So pretty much every Asian country would score higher in my list than any Latin America country. Does it mean that China is better than Brazil in terms of women hotness? No, it is not as this is based on subjective opinion, and I'm sure there are people who have an opposite opinion. And this is good - otherwise the world would be very boring if everyone liked the same women.

To those of you offended by the notion of certain countries having the "hottest" girls, that's why I added the caveat "reputedly." Also, you'll notice I'm strictly comparing two countries whose women tend to have a similar look-blonde, white girls. It's not like I'm comparing Ireland to Ethiopia.

@Oldnemesis, I don't see what's wrong with comparing two places with differing populations. A high school student deciding between UCLA vs. Pomona can legitimately compare the two schools or people thinking about moving to to a large city vs a small one. Also, people often adjust for per capita comparisons.

A statement like "there are hot women everywhere" is devoid of content and defeats the whole purpose of this board. Of course you'll find hot women everywhere. The question is: where can you find a higher concentration of them? If that's too vague, then where can you find a higher concentration of women that have X (e.g. blond hair, blue/green/light colored eyes, proportionate and soft facial features, Coke bottle bodies, etc.).

Ukraine. The ratio of men to women is fantastically skewed. In the winter, it's not uncommon to enter a club and have eight broads for every guy. It's an imbalance that drastically affects every dynamic.

Low supply of quality men, high demand most importantly results in

1) Significantly greater attention to appearance ("slutty attire" is redefined only a few minutes after walking down a street in Kiev)

2) Easier gaming. Women, with the knowledge you can instantly drop them for one of the hundreds just like her, adopt a much more amenable attitude.

Downsides: Russian fluency is almost required + high levels of materialism + certain antics endemic to women in that area

"the two countries that reputedly have the hottest women on the planet. "

really? not according to what I've seen

I've never been to a country that has come close to the talent I saw in Sweden. That said, I haven't been to the Ukraine, or South America, yet.

I ve been to the Ukraine. The women were underwelming. Not as many hotties as one would believe.

Add in shitty attitude, shitty place, shitty communication...I have no compulsion to go target Ukrainian girls specifically.

Quote: (08-18-2010 12:38 PM)gringoed Wrote:  

"the two countries that reputedly have the hottest women on the planet. "

really? not according to what I've seen

England and the U.S. are in the top 2.

Quote: (08-18-2010 05:10 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2010 12:38 PM)gringoed Wrote:  

"the two countries that reputedly have the hottest women on the planet. "

really? not according to what I've seen

England and the U.S. are in the top 2.

Insanely funny. Yet, horny young American men believe that stuff. Simply put, Ukraine knocks the hell out of anything in the West. In every way. From genetics, to style, to traditional value, to ease of getting a girlfriend you would never get in the West. It wins. Swedes are spoiled and filled with immigrants from ugly places.

Latinas are NOT an ethnic group. The best Latinas come from Southern Brazil. They are a mixture of German, Polish, Northern Italian, and Ukrainian. Rio Grande do Sul and Santa Catarina states. Those are the only Latin girls who have real beauty. The modeling industry agrees with me on that.

Latvia, Ukraine, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Czech and Slovak Republics, Russia, Moldova, Belarus, Slovenia, and Southern Brazil. They dominate for classic beauties. If you like alternative types (huge butts and fat I would suggest Memphis or a favella).

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Latinas are NOT an ethnic group. The best Latinas come from Southern Brazil. They are a mixture of German, Polish, Northern Italian, and Ukrainian. Rio Grande do Sul and Santa Catarina states. Those are the only Latin girls who have real beauty. The modeling industry agrees with me on that.

Lol... Latina/o = Latin American. Brazil isn't Latin American because they don't speak Spanish, so Brazilians aren't Latino/Latina.

Quote: (08-18-2010 05:34 PM)PinkElephant Wrote:  

Latinas are NOT an ethnic group. The best Latinas come from Southern Brazil. They are a mixture of German, Polish, Northern Italian, and Ukrainian. Rio Grande do Sul and Santa Catarina states. Those are the only Latin girls who have real beauty. The modeling industry agrees with me on that.

Not everyone holds Giselle Bundchen up as the ideal of beauty.

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If you like alternative types (huge butts and fat I would suggest Memphis or a favella).

Alternative views of beauty that reside outside of your own spectrum of attractiveness(thin, white, predominantly european) are not necessarily "fat" and do not necessarily reside in highly crime infested and undesirable places like favelas.

People can actually differ with your subjective opinion without having a fetish for morbidly obese women and without having to live in a low income, crime infested area. I know, its bit surprising, but its true: many of the people who disagree with your ideal of beauty can find what they like outside of a favela and they AREN'T POOR!

In fact, some of these people who disagree with your opinion are just like you! Normal guys with normal incomes and normal sex drives that just differ slightly in visual preference.

This is shocking, I know. Let it sink in for a bit.

I'm interested in comparing physical beauty only (as in imagine a photograph of full facial and body shot) so personality is irrelevant.

Naughtynomad, you should really take a trip to Stockholm and settle this for us.

Quote: (08-18-2010 05:34 PM)PinkElephant Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2010 05:10 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote: (08-18-2010 12:38 PM)gringoed Wrote:  

"the two countries that reputedly have the hottest women on the planet. "

really? not according to what I've seen

England and the U.S. are in the top 2.

Insanely funny. Yet, horny young American men believe that stuff. Simply put, Ukraine knocks the hell out of anything in the West. In every way. From genetics, to style, to traditional value, to ease of getting a girlfriend you would never get in the West. It wins. Swedes are spoiled and filled with immigrants from ugly places.

Latinas are NOT an ethnic group. The best Latinas come from Southern Brazil. They are a mixture of German, Polish, Northern Italian, and Ukrainian. Rio Grande do Sul and Santa Catarina states. Those are the only Latin girls who have real beauty. The modeling industry agrees with me on that.

Latvia, Ukraine, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Czech and Slovak Republics, Russia, Moldova, Belarus, Slovenia, and Southern Brazil. They dominate for classic beauties. If you like alternative types (huge butts and fat I would suggest Memphis or a favella).

I'd go as far as to say that taking girls mixed with African blood out of the picture (e.g. mulatas in Brazil), for every "hottie" you find in Latin America, I can find you ten who look comparable or superior to her in Eastern Europe.

You can find everything from dark-eyed, dark-haired "Latina-looking" women in EE to the classic blonde haired ideal that many guys look for. I'd also say I wouldn't touch the average South American girl with a 10 foot pole whereas in certain regions in EE (for example, The Baltics), the average is definitely doable, or at least, presentable.

How could I make the USA #1?



The USA is #1 IMHO if we count American celebrities. Angelina Jolie (in her prime), Kim Kardashian, Beyonce, Jessica Simpson,Alicia Keys, Mariah Carey, video hoes and porn stars. Hell even the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders are "I'll leave my wife of twenty years in a second" hot and they are all Americans. All of these girls are easily 10's (or damn near it) and they are so hot that other girls (and we are talking thousands of girls, if not millions) literally change the physical parts of their bodies just to look like them.

I have a wannabe model girl I fucked who is still trying to live her "hip hop" dream and invited me to a video shoot where I got to meet Scott Storch (big hip hop producer). All the women that wanted to be in the video were 9-10's and damn near all of them were Americans. Got to be in a limo with a friend who models in NYC (local shit, no big fancy contracts) but hey lets say I was not complaining with her "friends in the biz" sitting next to me.

Believe it or not I also saw some amazing looking women at the University of Florida (Gainsville, Florida) and the University Of Georgia(Athens, Georgia)Both are top ten large southern party schools and attract some seriously fine fucking women (they are always the most represented in the top ten lists of college party schools, UGA just got #1 party school in America this past year). This author believes every hot girl who wants to live their "American Pie" fantasy applies to these places to get shit faced and fucked extra hard. (UF is my #1 choice for graduate school, even if I get accepted into Colombia or NYU. Go GATORS!)


The problem of course is well celebrities and professional cheerleaders, video girls. models and even hot college girls are .000000000000000000000000000001% of the population in the USA. For every girl I almost nutted in my pants for that I saw there was two hundred " yeah we can fuck but I'm closing my eyes and thinking of someone else " type of chick. If over 50% of the USA population looked like the people I saw on TV or the girls I've mentioned, then the USA would be without argument, numero uno.


If we are talking about the greatest looking people per capita then my opinion would have to change. I'd vouch for Stockholm, Sweden (the girl was a fucking stockroom/cashier and looked like a goddess of erectile enhancement). Also, the women I saw in the gyms and beaches in Rio, Brazil and the malls of Salvador

Quote: (08-18-2010 05:49 PM)Badstuber Wrote:  

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Latinas are NOT an ethnic group. The best Latinas come from Southern Brazil. They are a mixture of German, Polish, Northern Italian, and Ukrainian. Rio Grande do Sul and Santa Catarina states. Those are the only Latin girls who have real beauty. The modeling industry agrees with me on that.

Lol... Latina/o = Latin American. Brazil isn't Latin American because they don't speak Spanish, so Brazilians aren't Latino/Latina.

Brazilians are Latino, but they aren't Hispanic. They have the same indigenous/mestizo/european/african mixtures found in their south american neighbors, colonized by a Latin language based country.

Common stereotype that all latino's speak spanish. I do it too...

Quote: (08-19-2010 01:20 AM)raskol Wrote:  

I'm interested in comparing physical beauty only (as in imagine a photograph of full facial and body shot) so personality is irrelevant.

Naughtynomad, you should really take a trip to Stockholm and settle this for us.

Fuck ya!
Flights to Stockholm are only €35 return from Dublin!!!! I guess I might have to. I'm flying to the Balkans in two weeks and Malta to November , maybe I could pop into Sweden in October.. I'm very tempted. It's fucking expensive, I might just coach surf. It's a tall order beating girls in Kiev... although Riga comes close. We shall see...

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Latinas are NOT an ethnic group. The best Latinas come from Southern Brazil. They are a mixture of German, Polish, Northern Italian, and Ukrainian. Rio Grande do Sul and Santa Catarina states. Those are the only Latin girls who have real beauty. The modeling industry agrees with me on that.

Lol... Latina/o = Latin American. Brazil isn't Latin American because they don't speak Spanish, so Brazilians aren't Latino/Latina.

Brazilians are Latino, but they aren't Hispanic. They have the same indigenous/mestizo/european/african mixtures found in their south american neighbors, colonized by a Latin language based country.

Common stereotype that all latino's speak spanish. I do it too...

No, Latino/Latina isn't a race. It is a name for the group of people that come from the Spanish speaking part of South/Central America
It's like the word North American.

Quote: (08-19-2010 08:35 AM)Badstuber Wrote:  

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Latinas are NOT an ethnic group. The best Latinas come from Southern Brazil. They are a mixture of German, Polish, Northern Italian, and Ukrainian. Rio Grande do Sul and Santa Catarina states. Those are the only Latin girls who have real beauty. The modeling industry agrees with me on that.

Lol... Latina/o = Latin American. Brazil isn't Latin American because they don't speak Spanish, so Brazilians aren't Latino/Latina.

Brazilians are Latino, but they aren't Hispanic. They have the same indigenous/mestizo/european/african mixtures found in their south american neighbors, colonized by a Latin language based country.

Common stereotype that all latino's speak spanish. I do it too...

No, Latino/Latina isn't a race. It is a name for the group of people that come from the Spanish speaking part of South/Central America
It's like the word North American.

Of course it's not a race, like I mentioned earlier, they are comprised of different ethnicities. Any map, or list of latin-american countries will obviously include Brazil, denoting them as Latino,

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Ame...ected=true

Someone who is Hispanic has origins in a Spanish speaking country, period. A Latino is anyone south of the US border as far as our government is concerned lol.

Not to hijack the thread tho, carry on...

Quote: (08-18-2010 04:04 PM)Luckystar Wrote:  

I ve been to the Ukraine. The women were underwelming. Not as many hotties as one would believe.

Ukraine is a large country (the largest in Europe if I remember correctly), and so your experience would differ dramatically depending on which city you stayed, and which places you visited. If you stayed in small cities like Zhmerinka or Khmelnitsky, or if you stayed in Kiev but only went to clubs which cater to foreigners, I bet you'll have nothing to write home about.

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Add in shitty attitude, shitty place, shitty communication...

Did you speak Russian, or only English? It is harder if you don't speak at least some Russian. A lot of people who speak some English there are too shy to use it as for most of them it is really rusty.

Quote: (08-19-2010 03:01 AM)IshGibbor Wrote:  

The USA is #1 IMHO if we count American celebrities. Angelina Jolie (in her prime), Kim Kardashian, Beyonce, Jessica Simpson,Alicia Keys, Mariah Carey, video hoes and porn stars. Hell even the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders are "I'll leave my wife of twenty years in a second" hot and they are all Americans.

You can't be serious. I googled all of the names you mentioned (as I didn't know some of them), and none of them is more than 6 on my scale. Which is high enough, but definitely not something I'd leave my wife for, even considering just appearance.

It seems like "beauty" in modern world is nothing more than a combination of your childhood experiences (who you see around while growing up), and marketing image (what you've seen on TV during your whole life). Here in California locals consider Latino females hot, while most Russian/CIS immigrants do not find them more than "attractive" - meaning not worth pursuing. Recently being back from Montana, it seems to be similar there - I talked to some locals, and it looks like they're all into fat white chicks. Interesting.

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All of these girls are easily 10's (or damn near it) and they are so hot that other girls (and we are talking thousands of girls, if not millions) literally change the physical parts of their bodies just to look like them.

10 is the photoshopped picture of trophy wife of oil billionaire (who is 9 in real life), i.e. no real person could be 10. There seem to be no standard scale at all.