Quote: (08-21-2012 09:43 AM)Wolverine Wrote:  

Kamaki the russian ukrainian xenophobia towards darker skinned people is ingrained in their psyhe from birth and has nothing to do with turkish sex tourism in ukraine or geo economics. They see non pure white people as culturally and intellectually inferior or "chorniy jopa" (black arse).

I was in Goa earlier this year, and I saw enough Russian girls hanging out with the locals to make me notice. The local Goans are much darker than any Southern Europeans, in fact their skin tone is only a few shades lighter than black Africans. Which brings me to my next comment. I was at a very popular event, where I saw this stunning Russian girl walking around with her friends, before I could approach her, I see her meeting up with a black African dude, who she obviously knew from before, and she is all over him and in his lap. This girl was gorgeous and the guy was just a typical average African guy, not even an American brother.

I am not necessarily disputing what you are saying, but not all Russians/Ukrainians are as you mentioned.

Quote: (08-21-2012 09:43 AM)Wolverine Wrote:  

By "resort" i was referring to hersonissos the town as a whole.

Kamaki the russian ukrainian xenophobia towards darker skinned people is ingrained in their psyhe from birth and has nothing to do with turkish sex tourism in ukraine or geo economics. They see non pure white people as culturally and intellectually inferior or "chorniy jopa" (black arse). I hang out with a blonde albanian guy who got nothing but positive responses from girls who wouldnt give italian guys the time of day.

The same is the case in kiev amd moscow nightclubs where the girl will only focus on the 5-10 white foreigners whilst ignoring the tanned guys or just using them for drinks.

A majority of the dutch and english guys i saw with russians had zero game, were mega needy, semi handsome at best, dressed like backpackers, and socially retarted. There was no viking power.

If a white guy with a european passport cant pick up a russian/ukrainian girl in hersonissos or anywhere else he may as well resign from the human race.


Whever

Where do white Americans fall into this pecking order in the eyes of the Russian/Ukrainian girls? I gotta think they would like them if it is mostly because they view these others as "inferior" as American is generally viewed positively.

Am I mistaken in this?

Quote: (08-21-2012 10:25 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

Quote: (08-21-2012 09:43 AM)Wolverine Wrote:  

Kamaki the russian ukrainian xenophobia towards darker skinned people is ingrained in their psyhe from birth and has nothing to do with turkish sex tourism in ukraine or geo economics. They see non pure white people as culturally and intellectually inferior or "chorniy jopa" (black arse).

I was in Goa earlier this year, and I saw enough Russian girls hanging out with the locals to make me notice. The local Goans are much darker than any Southern Europeans, in fact their skin tone is only a few shades lighter than black Africans. Which brings me to my next comment. I was at a very popular event, where I saw this stunning Russian girl walking around with her friends, before I could approach her, I see her meeting up with a black African dude, who she obviously knew from before, and she is all over him and in his lap. This girl was gorgeous and the guy was just a typical average African guy, not even an American brother.

I am not necessarily disputing what you are saying, but not all Russians/Ukrainians are as you mentioned.

Quote: (08-21-2012 10:25 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

Quote: (08-21-2012 09:43 AM)Wolverine Wrote:  

Kamaki the russian ukrainian xenophobia towards darker skinned people is ingrained in their psyhe from birth and has nothing to do with turkish sex tourism in ukraine or geo economics. They see non pure white people as culturally and intellectually inferior or "chorniy jopa" (black arse).

I was in Goa earlier this year, and I saw enough Russian girls hanging out with the locals to make me notice. The local Goans are much darker than any Southern Europeans, in fact their skin tone is only a few shades lighter than black Africans. Which brings me to my next comment. I was at a very popular event, where I saw this stunning Russian girl walking around with her friends, before I could approach her, I see her meeting up with a black African dude, who she obviously knew from before, and she is all over him and in his lap. This girl was gorgeous and the guy was just a typical average African guy, not even an American brother.

I am not necessarily disputing what you are saying, but not all Russians/Ukrainians are as you mentioned.

Girls who go to India(Goa) are different than girls who go to European beach resort towns, in the sense that they are probably more open minded. Also they are less likely to travel in packs or follow the herd mentality. Though I was in my late teens and my early 20s, european beach resort towns were always hard for me. Part of it Im sure, was that my game was not well developed at that point. But, it also seemed like the girls preferred the northern white european dudes. In that sense, I agree completely with wolverine.

Quote: (08-21-2012 11:14 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Girls who go to India(Goa) are different than girls who go to European beach resort towns, in the sense that they are probably more open minded. Also they are less likely to travel in packs or follow the herd mentality.

Actually, they are not. Goa is by no means an "off the beaten path" destination where a few of them end up. The Russia presence in Goa is huge, it is a well established winter sun destination with charter flights from Russia arriving every day during the peak season. Whole beaches are taken over by them. Many of the restaurants have their menus written first in Russian, then in English. While there are definitely some who come for the "spiritual enlightenment", mostly these are the same people that go to European beach resorts in the summer.

Quote: (08-21-2012 09:43 AM)Wolverine Wrote:  

By "resort" i was referring to hersonissos the town as a whole.

Kamaki the russian ukrainian xenophobia towards darker skinned people is ingrained in their psyhe from birth and has nothing to do with turkish sex tourism in ukraine or geo economics. They see non pure white people as culturally and intellectually inferior or "chorniy jopa" (black arse). I hang out with a blonde albanian guy who got nothing but positive responses from girls who wouldnt give italian guys the time of day.

The same is the case in kiev amd moscow nightclubs where the girl will only focus on the 5-10 white foreigners whilst ignoring the tanned guys or just using them for drinks.

A majority of the dutch and english guys i saw with russians had zero game, were mega needy, semi handsome at best, dressed like backpackers, and socially retarted. There was no viking power.

If a white guy with a european passport cant pick up a russian/ukrainian girl in hersonissos or anywhere else he may as well resign from the human race.


Whever

I did not refer to skin color but to perceived wealth.Scandinavians are perceived to be wealthier than Greeks and this is the main reason they are prefered by Russian women.I bet the blonde Albanian you tell about never revealed the Russian women his true origin otherwise they would run.He probably told them he was Scandinavian or American or sth(Albanians often lie about their origin,here they often pretend to be Greeks to non Greek speakers).

Russia is a nation of 200 million people (and i am 1 of them) so there will always be odd exceptions but a good 98% of the women are passionately racist against darker men.

Any tanned or dark guy can land hot Russian girls but he will need to be exceptionally more sophisticated, good looking and cashed up than the equivalent white guy.

This is a reality and its naive to deny it.

I have never been to Goa but the russian women that go there and hook up with local men are the same as the women that hook up with hordes of local turks during their summer vacation on the Turkish coast. Average lookers whom the russian men dont fancy, desperate cougars for whom its last resort saloon or girls there on sponsorship. I would say a majority of those indian men are financing the girls entire vacation incl flights.

The indian men i saw in Pattaya Thailand couldnt get so much as a hello response out of the russian girls there.

No offense Manabout but if you are suggesting in your post that you struggled to pull a russian girl in Goa due to competition from local guys i suggest you have a hard look at your own self. All the indian men ive ever met had negative game.

Quote: (08-21-2012 01:04 AM)Qwest Wrote:  

Quote: (08-20-2012 01:07 PM)Wolverine Wrote:  

I was in hersonissos recently also, and as a russian born westerner can confirm that at this particular resort the russian and ukrainain girls were strictly going for white European men.

What resort are you specifically talking about?

Was there a high concentration?

Being there recently, I think you may be able to add a little more on this.

Quest - Hersonissos is 30% russian, 50% scandanavian, 20% miscellaneous.

The beauty of Hersonissos is that there are zero english girls, meaning zero hordes of ugly girls. This is very important as it means the russian and scandanavian girls are very friendly and approachable as no one feels superior.

This is not the case in Ayia Napa which is 50% english and both the Russian and Scandi girls act like theyre models, very hard to engage.

The downside to Hersonissos, like any resort is that it has way more guys than girls.

Kamakis photos show the babes but for each one there are 4 equivalently good looking guys from all over Europe. The pickup process feels random and luck plays a part.

Quote: (08-21-2012 01:06 PM)Wolverine Wrote:  

Quote: (08-21-2012 01:04 AM)Qwest Wrote:  

Quote: (08-20-2012 01:07 PM)Wolverine Wrote:  

I was in hersonissos recently also, and as a russian born westerner can confirm that at this particular resort the russian and ukrainain girls were strictly going for white European men.

What resort are you specifically talking about?

Was there a high concentration?

Being there recently, I think you may be able to add a little more on this.

Quest - Hersonissos is 30% russian, 50% scandanavian, 20% miscellaneous.

The beauty of Hersonissos is that there are zero english girls, meaning zero hordes of ugly girls. This is very important as it means the russian and scandanavian girls are very friendly and approachable as no one feels superior.

This is not the case in Ayia Napa which is 50% english and both the Russian and Scandi girls act like theyre models, very hard to engage.

The downside to Hersonissos, like any resort is that it has way more guys than girls.

Kamakis photos show the babes but for each one there are 4 equivalently good looking guys from all over Europe. The pickup process feels random and luck plays a part.

I have to disagree here.The male to female ratio is not 80:20 but more close to 60:40.It is obvious also in the videos I posted.Scandinavians travel in big mixed groups men and women and the ratios are very balanced.Many Russian women come with girlfriends(in fact my hotel had a 20:80 male to female ratio some jewish guys there were astonished by the quantities of Russian women arriving everyday and them being the only guy group(2 guys) in hotel.
In the night more men are seen in clubs than women after 3.00 but this is mostly due to earlier female exhaustion.

For sure the absence of English makes things easier(English are notorious cockblockers) but I disagree that in Agia Napa Russian and Scandinavian chicks are not approachable in fact as I saw Cypriots are held quite high by Russian women(despite again their underwhelming appearance but they are supposed to be relatively wealthy).
Generally there is indeed competition luck plays role as much as you can stand the charge of Viking cavalry.

Quote: (08-21-2012 12:56 PM)Wolverine Wrote:  

Any tanned or dark guy can land hot Russian girls but he will need to be exceptionally more sophisticated, good looking and cashed up than the equivalent white guy.

This is a reality and its naive to deny it.

I have never been to Goa but the russian women that go there and hook up with local men are the same as the women that hook up with hordes of local turks during their summer vacation on the Turkish coast. Average lookers whom the russian men dont fancy, desperate cougars for whom its last resort saloon or girls there on sponsorship. I would say a majority of those indian men are financing the girls entire vacation incl flights.

The indian men i saw in Pattaya Thailand couldnt get so much as a hello response out of the russian girls there.

No offense Manabout but if you are suggesting in your post that you struggled to pull a russian girl in Goa due to competition from local guys i suggest you have a hard look at your own self. All the indian men ive ever met had negative game.

You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. Your post is filled with hatred, negativity, racial stereotypes and a whole lot of BITTERNESS.

Stop projecting your problems onto me. I never suggested that I was "struggling with Russian women" because of the local competition. I was just pointing out that not all of them fit your stereotype where they are averse to hooking up with non-white, non-nothern European men. I assume you are neither, and you are blaming your abject failure on this fact.

As I said, I saw a top end Russian hottie actually all over this guy who looked like a poor African student. Most of the other ones were just young guys in their early 20s who looked like they worked around there and drove 2-wheelers, no way would these guys have enough money to fly the girls over from Russia and pay all their expenses.

For me competition is invisible unless the men start dripping serious amounts of cash.I really do not pay attention to guys.In many cases I outgamed local Greeks and even Scandinavians by knowing Russian,having correct body position(refusing to move) and by experience.It is like a movie you have seen many times.The Scandinavians and Greeks would go to the girls I was talking to and the girls came back to me.It is the inner state.You just have not to move when the guys press you to take your position.

The question is when a Scandinavian guy a Dutch guy an English guy and a Greek guy present their arms who will a Russian girl choose?I mean when they are all present.What will happen if we add a Russian guy and a Serbian guy to get a more realistic environment?Also what are your chances against locals who represent the establishment.There are several balances which come into play there and I tried to explain them.

The Russian guy has an advantage that he understands the culture and speaks Russian,he is likely seen as longer time useful investement.The Scandinavian guy has the advantage of the larger perceived wealth.The establishment has the advantage that it can offer the girls jobs and always is the first to come in contactto them and it controls the House.The English guy has the reference to London opportunities and economic status and the English humr.The Serbian guy has the muscles and the intimidating appearance and he can also mingle easily with other Slavs to the point of becoming indescernible as can the Poles(you suppose he is part of the group while he is not).The Dutch guy can make a perefect cold approach when circumstances are beneficial for him.
So as a Greek you have to compete against all of the above by using the traditional weapons.Everyone uses his strong cards and plays game and you have to be above the competition to beat the competition.

Quote: (08-21-2012 01:39 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

The question is when a Scandinavian guy a Dutch guy an English guy and a Greek guy present their arms who will a Russian girl choose?

Greek, this is all theoretical and doesn't serve any purpose other than a discussion on an internet forum. The only competition you have is yourself.

To answer your question, if every one of those guys is going out there and approaching Russian girls, every one of them will eventually end up with one or more of them.

As I said, I have seen Russian girls with guys who were significantly poorer and darker than Southern Europeans. Maybe some of these guys were part of the establishment, bar tenders, bouncers, waiters etc. But, they were definitely getting their action with these Russians.

Quote: (08-21-2012 01:29 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

Quote: (08-21-2012 12:56 PM)Wolverine Wrote:  

Any tanned or dark guy can land hot Russian girls but he will need to be exceptionally more sophisticated, good looking and cashed up than the equivalent white guy.

This is a reality and its naive to deny it.

I have never been to Goa but the russian women that go there and hook up with local men are the same as the women that hook up with hordes of local turks during their summer vacation on the Turkish coast. Average lookers whom the russian men dont fancy, desperate cougars for whom its last resort saloon or girls there on sponsorship. I would say a majority of those indian men are financing the girls entire vacation incl flights.

The indian men i saw in Pattaya Thailand couldnt get so much as a hello response out of the russian girls there.

No offense Manabout but if you are suggesting in your post that you struggled to pull a russian girl in Goa due to competition from local guys i suggest you have a hard look at your own self. All the indian men ive ever met had negative game.

You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. Your post is filled with hatred, negativity, racial stereotypes and a whole lot of BITTERNESS.

Stop projecting your problems onto me. I never suggested that I was "struggling with Russian women" because of the local competition. I was just pointing out that not all of them fit your stereotype where they are averse to hooking up with non-white, non-nothern European men. I assume you are neither, and you are blaming your abject failure on this fact.

As I said, I saw a top end Russian hottie actually all over this guy who looked like a poor African student. Most of the other ones were just young guys in their early 20s who looked like they worked around there and drove 2-wheelers, no way would these guys have enough money to fly the girls over from Russia and pay all their expenses.

Im presenting the facts.

It just sounded from your contradiction that you struggled in Goa (why else would you contradict to this topic).

I didnt struggle in Greece as i have the cultural and language connection with russian girls, but from the perspective of this post i deemed it relevant to other travelers to point out that it isnt a merit based playing field in greece and it disadvantages mediterannean guys.

Posting about my successes is less relevant.

Where russian girls have the choice, they will go the white guy over the tanned/dark one. I dont know if they had that choice in goa but everywhere in the world ive been to this has been the case.

Russian girls express their xenophobia to me openly.

It's not a theory of mine but based on a lifetime of living the culture.

Also with the recent spate of terrorist attacks on moscow metro and airports you have to understand that tanned guys are not the flavour of the month amongst russians.

In any case this discussion belongs on a separate xenophobia forum.

Quote: (08-21-2012 01:57 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

Quote: (08-21-2012 01:39 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

The question is when a Scandinavian guy a Dutch guy an English guy and a Greek guy present their arms who will a Russian girl choose?

Greek, this is all theoretical and doesn't serve any purpose other than a discussion on an internet forum. The only competition you have is yourself.

To answer your question, if every one of those guys is going out there and approaching Russian girls, every one of them will eventually end up with one or more of them.

As I said, I have seen Russian girls with guys who were significantly poorer and darker than Southern Europeans. Maybe some of these guys were part of the establishment, bar tenders, bouncers, waiters etc. But, they were definitely getting their action with these Russians.

It is a real question because you get into situations like that.A Russian girl you talk to is spotted by some Swedish guy who comes as trailer.Then the local bartender tries to secure the portions of the House.The girl is in a group with some Russian guys she just met.So a lot of interruptions take place.Who will win is the question.
I noticed that Scandinavians have an edge for sure regarding perception.I mean if you say I come from Sweden you have better chances than if you say I come from Greece despite being the same person.This did not happen in the past with slavic women(it happened with English and Scandinavian) but now we have to aknowledge the new reality.

Quote: (08-21-2012 02:12 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

It is a real question because you get into situations like that.A Russian girl you talk to is spotted by some Swedish guy who comes as trailer.Then the local bartender tries to secure the portions of the House.The girl is in a group with some Russian guys she just met.So a lot of interruptions take place.Who will win is the question.
I noticed that Scandinavians have an edge for sure regarding perception.I mean if you say I come from Sweden you have better chances than if you say I come from Greece despite being the same person.This did not happen in the past with slavic women(it happened with English and Scandinavian) but now we have to aknowledge the new reality.

From what I have seen and heard, Swedish guys are super Beta and Greek/Southern European guys are the most aggressive alpha types out there.

I would have definitely given the home field advantage to the Greek guys.

Quote: (08-21-2012 01:59 PM)Wolverine Wrote:  

Quote: (08-21-2012 01:29 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

Quote: (08-21-2012 12:56 PM)Wolverine Wrote:  

Any tanned or dark guy can land hot Russian girls but he will need to be exceptionally more sophisticated, good looking and cashed up than the equivalent white guy.

This is a reality and its naive to deny it.

I have never been to Goa but the russian women that go there and hook up with local men are the same as the women that hook up with hordes of local turks during their summer vacation on the Turkish coast. Average lookers whom the russian men dont fancy, desperate cougars for whom its last resort saloon or girls there on sponsorship. I would say a majority of those indian men are financing the girls entire vacation incl flights.

The indian men i saw in Pattaya Thailand couldnt get so much as a hello response out of the russian girls there.

No offense Manabout but if you are suggesting in your post that you struggled to pull a russian girl in Goa due to competition from local guys i suggest you have a hard look at your own self. All the indian men ive ever met had negative game.

You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. Your post is filled with hatred, negativity, racial stereotypes and a whole lot of BITTERNESS.

Stop projecting your problems onto me. I never suggested that I was "struggling with Russian women" because of the local competition. I was just pointing out that not all of them fit your stereotype where they are averse to hooking up with non-white, non-nothern European men. I assume you are neither, and you are blaming your abject failure on this fact.

As I said, I saw a top end Russian hottie actually all over this guy who looked like a poor African student. Most of the other ones were just young guys in their early 20s who looked like they worked around there and drove 2-wheelers, no way would these guys have enough money to fly the girls over from Russia and pay all their expenses.

Im presenting the facts.

It just sounded from your contradiction that you struggled in Goa (why else would you contradict to this topic).

I didnt struggle in Greece as i have the cultural and language connection with russian girls, but from the perspective of this post i deemed it relevant to other travelers to point out that it isnt a merit based playing field in greece and it disadvantages mediterannean guys.

Posting about my successes is less relevant.

Where russian girls have the choice, they will go the white guy over the tanned/dark one. I dont know if they had that choice in goa but everywhere in the world ive been to this has been the case.

Russian girls express their xenophobia to me openly.

It's not a theory of mine but based on a lifetime of living the culture.

Also with the recent spate of terrorist attacks on moscow metro and airports you have to understand that tanned guys are not the flavour of the month amongst russians.

In any case this discussion belongs on a separate xenophobia forum.

The main reason it disadvantages Greeks(I do not know about Italians or Spanish because I saw neither of them) is the overwhelming masses of Scandinavians compared to Greeks.I mean the Scandinavians completely dominate in sheer numbers and one reason of course is that Greeks no longer posess the financial ability for extended vaccations.

Greeks and Scandinavians went to different bars(Greeks prefered New York and Scandinavians Havana,Bio Bio) and when we met(like in Tiger) there was some hefty competition although I tried to play the Scandinavians in their field as well(in Havana where the Russian girls entered especially to get Scandinavian guys since all the clientelle was Scandinavian).The reason was the more free atmosphere in the Scandinavian controlled bars compared to the strict bartender control in the Greek controlled bars which made movements more difficult and spotted.
So if the Scandinavians overwhelm us in our own country imagine the added difficulties when trying to pull girls in Scandinavia(although there more factors come into play and there is a more relaxed atmosphere).

Quote: (08-21-2012 02:17 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

Quote: (08-21-2012 02:12 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

It is a real question because you get into situations like that.A Russian girl you talk to is spotted by some Swedish guy who comes as trailer.Then the local bartender tries to secure the portions of the House.The girl is in a group with some Russian guys she just met.So a lot of interruptions take place.Who will win is the question.
I noticed that Scandinavians have an edge for sure regarding perception.I mean if you say I come from Sweden you have better chances than if you say I come from Greece despite being the same person.This did not happen in the past with slavic women(it happened with English and Scandinavian) but now we have to aknowledge the new reality.

From what I have seen and heard, Swedish guys are super Beta and Greek/Southern European guys are the most aggressive alpha types out there.

I would have definitely given the home field advantage to the Greek guys.

I would agree if I had not seen the slavic girls go for the beta Swedish guys and our alpha guys remain without bullets.I saw Greeks doing an OK approach be in and then the whole situation crapping out.The Swedish came when drunk in aggressive mode and the slavic hotties responded to my surprise.I expected them to give the Russian drunk man treatment but no they were complimented when the guy was Scandinavian.Of course the latter despite the initial success sometimes withdrew to drunken state again but the Russian response was spectacular.

Only the Ukrainian women seemed to have a continuously positive perception about us.I have also to add that Russian women who just came responded very well to pick up while Russian women who had stayed more than 3 days deteriorated rapidly(I noticed this on Crete not in other places though I believe it happens in Rodos as well).My guess is that Greek approaches failed in great degree and I am not sure now about our reputation in Russia.(I hope we will not gain the turkish guys reputation as sleazers,liars etc).

Quote: (08-21-2012 10:31 AM)Qwest Wrote:  

Quote: (08-21-2012 09:43 AM)Wolverine Wrote:  

By "resort" i was referring to hersonissos the town as a whole.

Kamaki the russian ukrainian xenophobia towards darker skinned people is ingrained in their psyhe from birth and has nothing to do with turkish sex tourism in ukraine or geo economics. They see non pure white people as culturally and intellectually inferior or "chorniy jopa" (black arse). I hang out with a blonde albanian guy who got nothing but positive responses from girls who wouldnt give italian guys the time of day.

The same is the case in kiev amd moscow nightclubs where the girl will only focus on the 5-10 white foreigners whilst ignoring the tanned guys or just using them for drinks.

A majority of the dutch and english guys i saw with russians had zero game, were mega needy, semi handsome at best, dressed like backpackers, and socially retarted. There was no viking power.

If a white guy with a european passport cant pick up a russian/ukrainian girl in hersonissos or anywhere else he may as well resign from the human race.


Whever

Where do white Americans fall into this pecking order in the eyes of the Russian/Ukrainian girls? I gotta think they would like them if it is mostly because they view these others as "inferior" as American is generally viewed positively.

Am I mistaken in this?

The inferiority is irrational and based on skin tone - not nationality. The last date i had with a russian girl had her complaining how she hated living in Cleveland for 3 months as there were so many blacks. If you are a white american you will be placed in high regard with russian / ukrainian girls. Not as high as white european but it will still work in your favour. You will still need to have confidence and swagger though. A white european requires zero game to get russian / ukrainian girls.

Quote: (08-21-2012 09:04 PM)Wolverine Wrote:  

Quote: (08-21-2012 10:31 AM)Qwest Wrote:  

Quote: (08-21-2012 09:43 AM)Wolverine Wrote:  

By "resort" i was referring to hersonissos the town as a whole.

Kamaki the russian ukrainian xenophobia towards darker skinned people is ingrained in their psyhe from birth and has nothing to do with turkish sex tourism in ukraine or geo economics. They see non pure white people as culturally and intellectually inferior or "chorniy jopa" (black arse). I hang out with a blonde albanian guy who got nothing but positive responses from girls who wouldnt give italian guys the time of day.

The same is the case in kiev amd moscow nightclubs where the girl will only focus on the 5-10 white foreigners whilst ignoring the tanned guys or just using them for drinks.

A majority of the dutch and english guys i saw with russians had zero game, were mega needy, semi handsome at best, dressed like backpackers, and socially retarted. There was no viking power.

If a white guy with a european passport cant pick up a russian/ukrainian girl in hersonissos or anywhere else he may as well resign from the human race.


Whever

Where do white Americans fall into this pecking order in the eyes of the Russian/Ukrainian girls? I gotta think they would like them if it is mostly because they view these others as "inferior" as American is generally viewed positively.

Am I mistaken in this?

The inferiority is irrational and based on skin tone - not nationality. The last date i had with a russian girl had her complaining how she hated living in Cleveland for 3 months as there were so many blacks. If you are a white american you will be placed in high regard with russian / ukrainian girls. Not as high as white european but it will still work in your favour. You will still need to have confidence and swagger though. A white european requires zero game to get russian / ukrainian girls.

Wolverine you say it how it is.....a latino, black or asian guy will have it harder with russian girls than a white guy, either inside or outside Russia. I like the truth put that way. As a latino american, I wll have to learn russian and have my A game, with money, before i do well in Russia. I kind of understand why the chechens have such a deep enmity towards the russians

Where do white Americans fall into this pecking order in the eyes of the Russian/Ukrainian girls? I gotta think they would like them if it is mostly because they view these others as "inferior" as American is generally viewed positively.

Am I mistaken in this?
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The inferiority is irrational and based on skin tone - not nationality. The last date i had with a russian girl had her complaining how she hated living in Cleveland for 3 months as there were so many blacks. If you are a white american you will be placed in high regard with russian / ukrainian girls. Not as high as white european but it will still work in your favour. You will still need to have confidence and swagger though. A white european requires zero game to get russian / ukrainian girls.
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Wolverine you say it how it is.....a latino, black or asian guy will have it harder with russian girls than a white guy, either inside or outside Russia. I like the truth put that way. As a latino american, I wll have to learn russian and have my A game, with money, before i do well in Russia. I kind of understand why the chechens have such a deep enmity towards the russians
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There seems to be a reluctance on this forum to acknowledge racial factors in women's selection processes which i think is very naive.

The russian xenophobia towards non-whites is now more exacerbated due to the terrorist attacks in Moscow of the past 2 years.

But unlike the Chechens at least the Russian xenophobia towards tanned/dark people is non-militarised.

The whole discussion is unrelated to the thread since there are very few non whites on Hersonissos.What matters more is the trend of slavic women to approve Scandinavian men and the competition.I do not know what would happen if Hersonissos was dominated by Serbs or English.I doubt the results of Scandinavians in this case.However in case of tight Serbian control or English drunk hooligan appearance Russian women would likely be absent as well.So it seems that Scandinavians and Slavs are compatible in a degree and can tolerate each other and in this harmonious world the anxious Balkan can pull his portion at least.

Wolverine, can you throw in a data sheet on Hersonissos including hotels, bars, clubs and cool activities?

Quote: (08-22-2012 05:36 AM)Sirob Wrote:  

Wolverine, can you throw in a data sheet on Hersonissos including hotels, bars, clubs and cool activities?

I think Kamaki has already done that Sirob.

If you intend to go i suggest you within the next 3 weeks.

All the guys that got easy lays this summer will be sure to tell their hordes of mates back home in Holland, Sweden, UK, etc that its guaranteed to be a cockfest next summer.

These resorts are good for 1 maybe 2 seasons tops.

Budva Montenegro 3 years ago was the best place on the planet i had been to. More serbian, russian and ukrainian supermodels than you could poke a stick at. It was only slavs, no europeans, no sex tourists and an even 50:50 ratio. It had to be seen to be believed.

Now Budva is unrecognisable.

Quote: (08-22-2012 06:01 AM)Wolverine Wrote:  

Quote: (08-22-2012 05:36 AM)Sirob Wrote:  

Wolverine, can you throw in a data sheet on Hersonissos including hotels, bars, clubs and cool activities?

I think Kamaki has already done that Sirob.

If you intend to go i suggest you within the next 3 weeks.

All the guys that got easy lays this summer will be sure to tell their hordes of mates back home in Holland, Sweden, UK, etc that its guaranteed to be a cockfest next summer.

These resorts are good for 1 maybe 2 seasons tops.

Budva Montenegro 3 years ago was the best place on the planet i had been to. More serbian, russian and ukrainian supermodels than you could poke a stick at. It was only slavs, no europeans, no sex tourists and an even 50:50 ratio. It had to be seen to be believed.

Now Budva is unrecognisable.

Actually most of Slavs are Europeans.
It would be interesting to see the slavic balances under Serbian domination like in Budva.I got a glimpse of it back in 2002 when Paralia Katerini had a 50% Serbs and the rest were Slavs from other countries including Russia and it was quite good.I mean when Serbs or Russians dominate in a place things are definitely better regarding chances than when Westerners dominate(although it is better with Scandinavians than with English domination).