Quote: (07-24-2012 12:01 AM)hun73r Wrote:  

So please, flame me, delete me, whatever, don't care. Roosh has seen my place and knows this is no joke. I just want to believe I'm talking to peers and not some broke scammers, broke dick dreamers or amateurs.

I don't really understand this post. Where has anyone claimed that this is some kind of big baller forum. There are dudes all up and down the income scale and that's the point. A bunch of guys trying to impress other online with cars and houses sounds fucking boring to me. What does that have to do with game? This forum is about practical advice for traveling and picking up chicks. Some of the most interesting posts are from dudes who live modestly.

Sounds to me like you're just looking for some place to validate your achievements in life. That's cool, I guess, but why would you look for that online?

"What advice of gmanifesto or mixx is bad or wrong? This ain't 4chan where we tits or gtfo."

Their advice is great, it would just be nice if there was some transparency. I'd rather read (and contribute to) a magazine with stories and photos than an anonymous book without pictures. But like someone else mentioned, there are feminists and white nights out there so I guess it's not possible. Was just a drunken thought. I know many of us have asked about having a private forum where we could share more openly - that was more my point in all this.

"Honestly I'm sometimes surprised by how down to earth a lot of stuff on this forum is.

Very little on here seems exaggerated - is it so hard to believe that someone is picking up a lot of women or traveling around the world? Happens every day. It's not just pro athletes and actors driving nice cars or banging fine women"

Agreed. It is very down to earth. No it's not hard to believe at all. My friends and I have a great time in SE Asia, Brazil, Colombia, Argentina, Czech, NYC, wherever with girls. Again, my drunken misguided rant was more about why can't we share more details to laugh about it. But, the publicness of the forum prevents that - I get it now.

Quote: (07-24-2012 04:16 AM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

Are you kidding, Mixx never posted pics, I beg to differ... He posted one of the nastiest pussies I've ever seen in my life, either a post op-tranny, the octo-mom, or a streetwalking whore...

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-3330-p...+Years+Eve

Check post #38 on the second page.

Quote: (07-24-2012 05:00 AM)pitt Wrote:  

Quote: (07-24-2012 04:16 AM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

Are you kidding, Mixx never posted pics, I beg to differ... He posted one of the nastiest pussies I've ever seen in my life, either a post op-tranny, the octo-mom, or a streetwalking whore...

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-3330-p...+Years+Eve

Check post #38 on the second page.

LOL post op-tranny you know.

This is a good question. How do you know how post-op puss looks like? Also, Mixx used to post pics of chicks he banged all the time.

Never actually met the kat but I grew up with Kats who were just like him. Plus, Mixx was a DJ even shitty ones get more butts than ashtrays, let alone Mixx who said he used to DJ for Tono Rosario(Google him) in the 90's in NYC. To put it in context, that's like you live in Toronto and you are Drake's DJ.

p.s. it looks like run of the mill phat puss to me.

In a public forum, any proof can be faked. In a private forum, any proof can be faked.

Even in person, some things can be faked (ex: having a nice car or house, it can be rented/leased/etc).

The best is to give (some) trust. As time continues you take (or give) more trust (due to other people knowing him, for the advice he gives, posts, data sheets, etc.).

There is no other way. Thegmanifesto may be fake, you claim. If you think so, don´t trust him. Don´t follow his advice. Don´t believe his stories.

I like the way he writes and the things/advice/ideas he provides, so I trust him a lot.

That is the way of forums, be public or private.

Quote: (07-24-2012 12:01 AM)hun73r Wrote:  

I love this forum and have talked to Roosh a few times on email.

I'd love to believe this stuff full on because the stories are damn encouraging and heroworthy, but I'm sorry. Without any social proof like videos/photos/news stories/real facebook profiles... I just don't buy some of the guys here.

I know I'll be called a douche - and I want to be proven wrong. But anyone can create a blog and fake profiles and talk a big game. I don't see anything real from GManifesto or Mixx that I believe full on. They talk a GOOD fucking game. But is it real? I want to believe, but fucking show me 2500 posts doesn't mean shit. To me, it means, wasted a fuck of a huge amount of time. Otherwise, don't waste my time. I'll show my proof. Will you?
I fully expect this thread to be deleted. Whatever. I'll show my $2.4mil NYC pad, $1mil Rhode Island beach house, vermont farm, buenos aires fuckpad, palm springs party den, Santa monica afterparty pad, and random chicks I fucked that are 20 years younger or whatever. But since I don't see any of that from anyone else, I don't buy it. Honestly I dont' care if I'm deleted or feel I have anything to lose by hearing awe inspiring stories without any proof whatsoever.

So please, flame me, delete me, whatever, don't care. Roosh has seen my place and knows this is no joke. I just want to believe I'm talking to peers and not some broke scammers, broke dick dreamers or amateurs.

On some level, I agree with you that some people on this forum are bullshitting, but then I always take what is said on forums with a grain of salt anyway.

Requiring everyone to "prove" their stories is time consuming, annoying, and can lead to real-world reprecussions (like being "outed").

If you feel there is too much bullshitting on this forum, then it is probably best for you seek another forum to post on. This drama queen bs where you call people out in the end is nothing more than trolling.

Quote: (07-24-2012 12:01 AM)hun73r Wrote:  

I fully expect this thread to be deleted. Whatever. I'll show my $2.4mil NYC pad, $1mil Rhode Island beach house, vermont farm, buenos aires fuckpad, palm springs party den, Santa monica afterparty pad, and random chicks I fucked that are 20 years younger or whatever.

Ironic.

This guy just became the biggest bragger in the history of the forum in one post.

I have never once talked about cribs, cars or things I own. Ever.

I wonder where Mixx steered you wrong?

Quote: (07-24-2012 01:40 AM)Spartan Wrote:  

I don't understand why some people are reluctant to share more info such as video/audio of approaches or pics.

There is no such thing as internet privacy...if someone really wants to find you, they can.

...so we should share our personalized pics/video (which, as mentioned before, can be very incriminating and extremely easy to identify should the wrong eyes see it) to make it even easier for them?

I did just make a quick search for data sheets made by thegmanifesto. It only comes up with two results and these are both just links to his site. Maybe I'm not searching correctly as I thought he'd made more than that?

Quote: (07-24-2012 01:40 AM)Spartan Wrote:  

I don't understand why some people are reluctant to share more info such as video/audio of approaches or pics.

There is no such thing as internet privacy...if someone really wants to find you, they can.

This is a self-improvement forum for improving social skills, learning how to meet women, and living an enjoyable lifestyle. If you're posting positive things...there is no reason to worry, IMO.

This IS NOT a website dedicated to terrorism, murder, drug abuse, or any other crime.
The PUA movement is a self-improvement movement with the goal of improving people's lives. There is nothing to be afraid or ashamed of.

I'm proud to be part of the PUA and self-improvement movement.

LOL what's in it for someone to share their personal life? What's the upside, helping you? While the downside is having that stuff on the internet FOREVER....

You might change your mind in 5-10 years about how much you want the world to know you're into PUA.

But if it's so important to you, go for it- get out there, and YOU be the one to give that value.

Why should I help you?

Why do you want a hand out of a dream?

Why do you believe in the failures of others is it actually because you're failing and want to push your excuses on others?

Stop asking "why me" and start asking "why not me"

Shoowww meeeee pleaseee... This reminds me of a girl asking over and over "why do you loveee meee?"

Successful people don't hang out with unsuccessful people.

Quote: (07-24-2012 12:27 AM)hun73r Wrote:  

I guess it doesn't have much to do with travel.
My question is this
Are we just going to be anonymous and tell unsubstantiated stories or actually prove some shit?

Pics convince you that a guy is a real player? So you believe all those PUAs with tons of photos with hot girls on their arms? You really believe they fucked them?

Pics are nice to see the quality guys are getting, but it doesn't offer proof of anything. We also have a lot of guys who rate cute girls down when pics are posted. A guy posts a 7 and some guy says she's a 2. I can understand how some guys don't want their bangs to be roasted by subtle haters.

And then there's the privacy issue. This isn't the most mainstream acceptable forum on the internet, and lots of guys don't want to be identified as members.

Newbie member has been suspended for 3 days to come down from his meltdown. I think I'm being too nice.

I just double-clapped my hands for one of my servants to bring me my burled-walnut laptop so I could read today's Rooshes while I gently awakened in my Louis XIV bed to the sound of my live cello-music alarm clock. It soothes my body's humors for me to laugh at the musings of my fellow player-aristocrats first thing. But, when my reader spoke the title of this thread, I shoved off the Andriana Lima look-a-like models lying on either side of me off of the bed in a disgusted arm reflex! I spit out my Kopi Luwak coffee. I almost ruined my handmade, horse-hair mattress. "What's wrong, sweetheart?," said the girls--from the floor--in their mellifluous accents. I was far too unsettled to answer. "Leave me."

So let me get this straight: you're calling out the entire forum for big-baller trolling, while big-baller trolling yourself, but at the same time not providing the easily falsified proof that you're demanding from everyone? Shit, son.

Did Mixx have a newsletter he was charging for?

Is my site a membership site that you have to pay for to read?

Or are we both giving out free information?

This hun73r guy comes out of the closet, asks for a free drink, then complains because he doesn't like the glass it's served in.

What a East Coast Kook.

Guaranteed this is a guy in khakis, and polo shirts. And wears mid-thigh shorts and Teva sandals to the beach with a farmers tan.

Typical jealous hater coming out of the closet. Why does this site attract these weirdos?

Quote: (07-24-2012 09:51 AM)Jalouse Wrote:  

I did just make a quick search for data sheets made by thegmanifesto. It only comes up with two results and these are both just links to his site. Maybe I'm not searching correctly as I thought he'd made more than that?

Yeah buddy, I have dropped 50 before I introduced the term "Data Sheet" to this forum.

Basically you are saying "I just did a quick search to find telephones by Alexander Graham Bell and couldn't find any."

Look around.

I just did a search for girls you guys consider 10s and couldn't find any.

Mixx is probably the most believable member of the forum after Roosh, for the simple reason that he is almost always positive and rarely (if ever - I've never seen it, though I won't say it never happened) attacks and puts down people unprovoked.

Allow me to remove my monocle and spit out my $400 a glass scotch so I can look at the situation with more objectivity...but I have to do this quickly; I have a game of Croquet scheduled with the Sultan of Brunei, Warren Buffet, Sean Connery and Stevie Ray Vaughan (summoned via séance).

Let's see...comes in here and demands evidence, makes a bunch of claims about balling but provides no evidence of his own; if I had to place a bet on a particular type of troll, I'd guess beta 'Game never worked for me so it won't work for anyone!' troll.

If we just spent our time here talking about how much cash we made and bragging on our accomplishments and not sharing relevant data about how to pick up girls all over the planet, this wouldn't be a game forum; it'd be an SWPL ivy league alumni party.

So what you're saying is we should just randomly ruin girls' lives by posting naked pictures of them, which would also hurt Roosh by making him an even bigger lightning rod for agencies like the SWPLPCA and Big Feminism, just for your amusement? Why can't you just hit your fuck pad in BA or your Palm Springs place and stop caring about the girls that other guys are fucking?

This thread is bad and you should feel bad.

Quote: (07-24-2012 10:34 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (07-24-2012 09:51 AM)Jalouse Wrote:  

I did just make a quick search for data sheets made by thegmanifesto. It only comes up with two results and these are both just links to his site. Maybe I'm not searching correctly as I thought he'd made more than that?

Yeah buddy, I have dropped 50 before I introduced the term "Data Sheet" to this forum.

Basically you are saying "I just did a quick search to find telephones by Alexander Graham Bell and couldn't find any."

Look around.

Have old posts been archived?

I can search for all the threads started by you which gives 6 pages of results dating from 2009 and it only has the data sheets I mentioned above. Maybe the sheets are hidden in posts started by another user but I don't really want to have to dig through 4500 posts to find a data sheet.

Quote: (07-24-2012 11:24 AM)Jalouse Wrote:  

Quote: (07-24-2012 10:34 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (07-24-2012 09:51 AM)Jalouse Wrote:  

I did just make a quick search for data sheets made by thegmanifesto. It only comes up with two results and these are both just links to his site. Maybe I'm not searching correctly as I thought he'd made more than that?

Yeah buddy, I have dropped 50 before I introduced the term "Data Sheet" to this forum.

Basically you are saying "I just did a quick search to find telephones by Alexander Graham Bell and couldn't find any."

Look around.

Have old posts been archived?

I can search for all the threads started by you which gives 6 pages of results dating from 2009 and it only has the data sheets I mentioned above. Maybe the sheets are hidden in posts started by another user but I don't really want to have to dig through 4500 posts to find a data sheet.

I usually tack them on to existing threads.

Or ask questions on a thread then come back and post the Sheet.

The sheets are usually on my site and I link to them here rather than repost the same information twice.

Jalouse does have a point. It can be daunting for a newbie to know where to find the best data sheets. The people here who write data sheets regularly (like yourself, G) should write up a summary compendium of your data sheets for newcomers.

Quote: (07-24-2012 12:01 AM)hun73r Wrote:  

I love this forum and have talked to Roosh a few times on email.

I'd love to believe this stuff full on because the stories are damn encouraging and heroworthy, but I'm sorry. Without any social proof like videos/photos/news stories/real facebook profiles... I just don't buy some of the guys here.

I know I'll be called a douche - and I want to be proven wrong. But anyone can create a blog and fake profiles and talk a big game. I don't see anything real from GManifesto or Mixx that I believe full on. They talk a GOOD fucking game. But is it real? I want to believe, but fucking show me 2500 posts doesn't mean shit. To me, it means, wasted a fuck of a huge amount of time. Otherwise, don't waste my time. I'll show my proof. Will you?
I fully expect this thread to be deleted. Whatever. I'll show my $2.4mil NYC pad, $1mil Rhode Island beach house, vermont farm, buenos aires fuckpad, palm springs party den, Santa monica afterparty pad, and random chicks I fucked that are 20 years younger or whatever. But since I don't see any of that from anyone else, I don't buy it. Honestly I dont' care if I'm deleted or feel I have anything to lose by hearing awe inspiring stories without any proof whatsoever.

So please, flame me, delete me, whatever, don't care. Roosh has seen my place and knows this is no joke. I just want to believe I'm talking to peers and not some broke scammers, broke dick dreamers or amateurs.

You want proof? Go out and try the stuff we talk about here for yourself.

Quote: (07-24-2012 11:54 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Jalouse does have a point. It can be daunting for a newbie to know where to find the best data sheets. The people here who write data sheets regularly (like yourself, G) should write up a summary compendium of your data sheets for newcomers.

Or just read my site everyday or my posts on here. I drop dimes on the daily.

I just put all my Del Mar sheets into an EZ guide. What more do guys want?

All I can do is lead a horse to water.

Quote: (07-24-2012 12:01 PM)soup Wrote:  

Quote: (07-24-2012 12:01 AM)hun73r Wrote:  

I love this forum and have talked to Roosh a few times on email.

I'd love to believe this stuff full on because the stories are damn encouraging and heroworthy, but I'm sorry. Without any social proof like videos/photos/news stories/real facebook profiles... I just don't buy some of the guys here.

I know I'll be called a douche - and I want to be proven wrong. But anyone can create a blog and fake profiles and talk a big game. I don't see anything real from GManifesto or Mixx that I believe full on. They talk a GOOD fucking game. But is it real? I want to believe, but fucking show me 2500 posts doesn't mean shit. To me, it means, wasted a fuck of a huge amount of time. Otherwise, don't waste my time. I'll show my proof. Will you?
I fully expect this thread to be deleted. Whatever. I'll show my $2.4mil NYC pad, $1mil Rhode Island beach house, vermont farm, buenos aires fuckpad, palm springs party den, Santa monica afterparty pad, and random chicks I fucked that are 20 years younger or whatever. But since I don't see any of that from anyone else, I don't buy it. Honestly I dont' care if I'm deleted or feel I have anything to lose by hearing awe inspiring stories without any proof whatsoever.

So please, flame me, delete me, whatever, don't care. Roosh has seen my place and knows this is no joke. I just want to believe I'm talking to peers and not some broke scammers, broke dick dreamers or amateurs.

You want proof? Go out and try the stuff we talk about here for yourself.

Yeah, good point.

I am still waiting for one person, just one, to come out and say:

"G, I read all your posts on The Del Mar Racetrack, and I tried them myself and they didn't work".

Or

"G I read what you had to say about Las Vegas and it's all BS".

Or

"G, I hit up all the places you said to go to in Barcelona (Palm Beach, NYC, Bogota etc etc etc etc) and those are the worst places."

Or on anything I have written.

Has anyone noticed that no one has ever done that?

Ever.

Not once?

On the contrary, every time someone has used my tips they come back and say they were dead on.

Read into this however you like.

Okay, while I agree the guy in the original post needed his ego checked, I will say I agree with the spirit of his post. I see way too much bullshit online, and I think pictures would go a long way towards supporting various claims.

I do not believe people should reveal who they are, however, as that is just begging for trouble.

But there are ways of taking pictures that are anonymous and still show the quality of the girl you're banging, as well as the places you've been.


Also, Hunter, have you ever considered how difficult it is to have good quality pictures or video's of the things you've done?


I like to go to dance clubs, for example. How am I supposed to document this?

1. Am I supposed to have a camera attached to my body?

I've already looked into this. The only camera's with night vision and good enough quality to film inside of a club are either huge and bulky, and would scare the shit out of any girl you approach, or are "just big enough" that you might be able to conceivably hide it on your person.

And yet the only hidden camera's I've found have big bright red lights that turn on to provide infrared lighting, so it would still be obvious to anyone in the club what you're doing.

But the video wouldn't show much. It would only be first person and not show my actual dance moves, how I handle the group, and because I'm moving around so much the footage would be shaky as fuck.

Am I supposed to have a guy film me everywhere I go? How the fuck is that gonna work?

And taking pictures in the club - because it's so dark, you'll need a flash camera. Do you know how fucking gay it looks for a guy to take pictures with a flash camera? And then, of course, the pictures don't really tell the audience anything except that you've been there.


2. Take pictures of the girls I bang?

Kinda hard on one night stands, don't you think? A lot of times I might go back to her place. What am I supposed to do, carry a hidden camera every night I go out?

If I can get the girl back to my place, I usually try to take pics. I do have a growing collection but it's not always easy. Sometimes girls say you can take their picture but then delete it off your phone/camera/computer when you're not looking.

Then of course, there's the added effort into taking pics of the girl you're banging, when a lot of the times once you get your groove on the last thing I'm thinking about is pleasing a bunch of randoms over the internet. I've forgotten to document multiple bangs of some really hot chicks, but it just wasn't on my mind when she was ass-naked in my bed.

And taking pics of girls you've banged is great for bragging, but it doesn't really help anyone.



So, hun73r, it's obvious to me that you haven't thought the logistics of documenting pickups/bangs at all. You come here as a skeptic but you aren't skeptical of your own views.

If you can figure out reliable methods around the logistical issues I've posted, then I would be more than happy to do more documentation. But for the most part, I can't figure out a way around these issues.

First off, I think many are too busy to post made up stories about conquests.

Secondly, if I'm outed posting on this forum with pictures, I lose my job and end up on the cover of a fucking news paper as a mysogenistc pervert. I've posted what my job is in other threads. I love my job and I'm not posting anything mildly incriminating that could put me in that spot.

Third, the best way to find out if someone is a bullshitter, is to use their advice. Some of the success in life I've had can be directly attributed to ideas I've read here. I know that person isn't full of it because their ideas work. Also, I've read ideas posted here and thought to myself that that person isn't a bullshitter because I've done something similar and had similar results.

Lastly, what's interesting about this forum is that it caters to people from all walks of life. Some guys are learning the basics, some guys are looking to get in shape, some guys are thinking about business, some guys are in college, some guys can't afford to travel, some guys are backpackers who like to bang, and some guys are worldwide ballers. Find the guys who fit your profile as a person and pay attention to those threads. There are a few posters on here I pay close attention to because that person has had similar life and travel experiences to me. There are other posters I don't read or threads I never bother with because it's not what I need, nor the type of person I am.

If you notice, an overwhelming number of my posts are related to traveling. I've done enough of it where I can provide valuable information as well as absorb information to make my travel experiences even more positive. I have no need to post much in the lifestyle thread because I'm settled in my career and have useful networks already in my life.

A few of you guys are saying there is some bullshit here. From who? Call them out. If there is evidence someone is making things up, he shouldn't be here.