Am I the only who sees that this dumb bitch spent the first :35-:40 provoking this guy? Am I the only one who noticed that she hit him twice before he hit her? Am I the only one who noticed when she hit him the first time she justified it as "I'm protecting myself"? Even though he hadn't really done anything at that point to warrant being hit?

Am I the only one who is not surprised at the feminists and manginas who think that it's OK for women to use violence when unprovoked, and then call her the victim when he defends himself?

I wonder how many womyn's studies majors have shown this video in class presentations to highlight "classic long term domestic violence"?

There are women who have been on the receiving end of real domestic violence. I'm talking about women who have never raised a fist, and yet they're with beta faggots who fuck their shit up. This woman isn't one of them. Real abuse victims don't become hostile and confrontational. They don't escalate situations over petty shit. They cower and hide. This dumb bitch knew what she was doing the moment she entered the room.

I also wonder how this shit ended up on Youtube? It's too perfect to be staged.

What a cunt.

Right hooks a women and in front of her kids?! Nah,can't defend that,sorry.

Quote: (06-07-2012 01:44 AM)porscheguy Wrote:  

Am I the only who sees that this dumb bitch spent the first :35-:40 provoking this guy?[quote]Quote:

Yes, you are. She told him to leave and pushed him on the shoulder. Big deal.

(06-07-2012, 06:44 AM)porscheguy Wrote:  Am I the only one who noticed that she hit him twice before he hit her?

Yes, you are. She pushes him on the shoulder and swats him with a weak little bony hand. If this is "hitting" to you, maybe you should lift some weights so that an 85lbs woman's shove will not throw you off your rocker.

[quote='porscheguy' pid='220509' dateline='1339051474']Am I the only one who noticed when she hit him the first time she justified it as "I'm protecting myself"?

Yes, you fucking are. She swatted him meekly on the shoulder in an effort to get his attention and show she is serious because, more than likely, she knows from past experience he will not listen. She is being territorial. Once she does that, he stands up and corners her, kicks the television in an effort to drive himself into a frenzy. The "I'm protecting myself" was after he cornered her and began displaying unmistakably hostile body language.

Quote: (06-07-2012 01:44 AM)porscheguy Wrote:  

Even though he hadn't really done anything at that point to warrant being hit?

What he has done, we have not seen. But obviously they have history and she wants him to leave. And stop acting like he was "hit," you sound pathetic.

Quote: (06-07-2012 01:44 AM)porscheguy Wrote:  

Am I the only one who is not surprised at the feminists and manginas who think that it's OK for women to use violence when unprovoked, and then call her the victim when he defends himself?

You're a victimized little pussy if you think this woman was "using violence." I just saw a weak little man looking for an excuse to batter a skinny little girl half his size, all while traumatizing her children, then I heard him rationalizing his action as he drags her away and says, "You hit me first." Yeah, right... fucking pussy. Fuck that guy. That's not a man, that's a weak little piece of shit that should be shot on sight. Only a psychologically fractured weirdo would consider him justified. Angry, victimized men see what they want to see.

I'm all for slapping a chick across the face when she's being a spoiled little bitch, but to attack a woman with a clenched fist as if she was a man, and to do it in front of her children, and all because she swatted you with her twig of an arm, that makes me want to fucking vomit. I can't even begin to imagine what kind of sick, twisted shit is going on in a man's mind if he thinks the subhuman piece of shit in this video was justified in what he did.

She provoked him and he responded. Or, shit attracts pigs.

If I were in his position, I would not have responded to her provocations. I'd ignore her and move her out of the way if need be. It's supremely easy to restrain a 90 lb woman. Bear hug her and she's powerless.

Then again, she may get off on the abuse, and desire it at some level. Maybe a closed fist punch is the only thing that will satisfy her. There are women like that, but it's not written on their forehead. Roissy did a post on one Penelope Trunk like this. But without knowing that, I'd just restrain her. And there are plenty of ways to incapacitate her without violently striking her.

OP, you're guilty of the No True Scotsman fallacy. A woman can still be an abuse victim even if she's a little sassy. Man or woman, it's not appropriate to respond to minor verbal provocation with a punch out of nowhere.

Her comment about being forced to call the cops and also the camera even filming in first place leads me to believe this isn't the first time. I don't feel sorry for her dumbass if that's the case.

Two relevant threads:

The above video was originally posted in this thread, but was removed from youtube (and consequently the thread).
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-11264.html

The video in this thread talks about how, statistically speaking, women hit men more than the other way around, but men tend to inflict more damage.
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-7183.html

We sock bitches over Playstation now?

Is she verbally and physically abusive? Yes. She starts it and keeps it going ...and going ...and going ...until finally he finishes it.

Neither is laudable.

Did he overrespond? Yes. First she taunts him by commanding him out of his own home with "You need to leave, John." and making a big display of how she's going to ignore him, and he fell for her bait. Then she does her slappy game and he puts up with it while saying multiple times "Don't start" which means she's done this multiple times to him before, but she wasn't having it. She keeps escalating to being more and more violent while he's putting up with her shit blocking her hits. She needed the full punch to stop her shit. But he's capable of having a normal relationship without abuse with another, less violent, woman who doesn't hit him in the face. I'd say his problem is bad wife selection.

She however is incapable of ever having a non-abusive relationship, and will bend and distort every normal guy into what she needs. She needs high drama and to know her man is strong enough to defend her 90lb ass. The day he doesn't respond to her abuse with an escalation in violence is the day she loses interest in him and leaves him as a weakling. That's how she's wired.

Which means she definitely shouldn't have custody of those two boys.

This dude seems to overreact to me. But this is equally as damaging, in my view. From the description of this very video on youtube:

   

Quote: (06-07-2012 09:28 AM)basilransom Wrote:  

She provoked him and he responded. Or, shit attracts pigs.

If I were in his position, I would not have responded to her provocations. I'd ignore her and move her out of the way if need be. It's supremely easy to restrain a 90 lb woman. Bear hug her and she's powerless.

Then again, she may get off on the abuse, and desire it at some level. Maybe a closed fist punch is the only thing that will satisfy her. There are women like that, but it's not written on their forehead. Roissy did a post on one Penelope Trunk like this. But without knowing that, I'd just restrain her. And there are plenty of ways to incapacitate her without violently striking her.

OP, you're guilty of the No True Scotsman fallacy. A woman can still be an abuse victim even if she's a little sassy. Man or woman, it's not appropriate to respond to minor verbal provocation with a punch out of nowhere.

It almost seems she wanted it. With the Camera and evryething and her letting out a almost orgasmic whimper when he cracked her in the face. Only when it hit her front brain what happened, plus when he looked her in the eye did she start to cry. But at first she let out a cry of bliss - don't care what anybody says but she sound just like them kookoo bitches I see at the BDSM dungeons, they moan just like that!

Now on to if it was right. I was not expecting to see a frail 90lb women and a meathead dude. In this case no. Pick her up and toss her, or just leave. If this is my wife and she tryna rage me like this Ill toss her aside then fuck her after. Just to re-affirm not to fuck around on some stupid shit.. a playstation? Obviously they got way deeper shit steaming that a playstation is going to set him off. My guess money or some shit and she keeps beaking at him about it. Who knows. But cracking a tiny female like that isn't the right way to do it. She can't hurt him with her body, they both know it, so why do it.

If a girl came at me with a bat or drew some blood from me then that's a different situation because she is trying to step to be my equal and/or endanger me. But this situation naw. Dude should of just grabbed her, tossed her aside then drag her to the bedroom and dicked her in half... the last thing she would do is cry rape after he makes her cum 50 times lmao.

Even in cultures where its cool to smack around your wife. Your never supposed to hit her face. You give a shot to the body just to let her know whats up. If a dude is hitting a female like another man he does not now how to handle his shit. When dudes start overreacting and smacking their wives in the face its always another issue (mostly money).

I'm finding it hard to have this dude's back. He seems like a bully to me. At best, he's letting this chick manipulate him into doing something stupid. If a woman makes you angry enough to deck her like that, you've lost the battle either way.

What nobody is mentioning ( maybe because not many of you have them ) is the kids in the room at the time having to witness it all. Imagine what that does to a little kid's head seeing their dad right hook their mum in the face?! The man is a bully and a crap father. I have no respect for either types of people.

That shit isn't right. Her arms are so tiny that I can't even see on the video this so called 'punch' that she threw at him. You have to recognize the power differential here. They have the 'retreat' clause it many self-defense laws for situations like this. Come on, its really so bad that you have to deck her like that?

I believe there are some situations where hitting a woman is justifiable, and the only answer, this is not one of them.

I'm not too worried about the kids. Kids are resilient and stronger than most adults. They adapt to survive, although that usually winds up establishing issues that they have to deal with later on, but whatever, everyone has their shit.

This is definitely not a case of the man being a victim of physical abuse, not by this video. He's clearly the aggressor. I don't think I'd ever hit a woman with a clenched fist unless she REALLY came at me. The few times I've had to rough a bitch up I just grabbed the back of her hair and held her by the skull, or grabbed her by the throat and pinned her against a wall. In every case it's because she actually started punching me or throwing blunt objects at me.

This guy definitely has some anger and resentment built up, for him to get that physically confrontational so quickly. Homeboy needs to learn to express himself. Even the way he says, "It's *MY* T.V." He sounds like a spoiled little shit. A man in this situation should just laugh at the silly little bitch and casually inform her, "It's my T.V. It's cute that you think you're getting it, but it's actually coming with me right now." If she tried to physically restrain him from his property, he should have threatened to get the cops involved. It sounds beta, but these days, it should be on every guy's first response, otherwise he'll find himself on the receiving end. I've had a girl physically removed from my apartment before, and the cops didn't think twice about getting her the hell out.

The dude is a punk ass bitch and a shitty excuse for a dad (if he is the dad), no question. Punching a girl like that IN FRONT OF THEIR CHILDREN is fucking uncalled for. I hope he went to jail.

That said, a lot of women tend to be drawn to guys like this. She is probably one of them. A normal woman would have seen the signs of this guys behavior early on and would have dropped him. My bet is that he was not the first or the last abusive boyfriend that she had. She is in need of some serious therapy to find out what draws her to men like this (probably from growing up in the same type of abusive home that she is providing for her children now).

The worst is that those kids have a front row seat to that sick shit.

^ I see patterns like that all the time. The girls whom end up with these dudes all share the same characteristics while the dudes are dumb ass meatheads whom work shitty jobs. These bitches pump out kids they can't afford then start bitching about money when the dude whom is a clown, but is honestly working has ass off to get them all by. She works a shit job and brings nothing to the table other than some modest looks. She basically begs to get her face swollen by provoking the dude and starting shit, calling the cops, taking the kids away, bitching about money, mocking her man, getting drunk and being a skank at bars, just typical tailor park hooligan shit lol. Usually they aint even married and I never understand why the dude does not bounce but the kids do play a big role, they do get the worst of it, but these dudes as dumb and simple as they are are old school and try to be their for their kids... its just a bad way they approach it though no doubt.

Quote: (06-07-2012 11:22 AM)kosko Wrote:  

It almost seems she wanted it. With the Camera and evryething and her letting out a almost orgasmic whimper when he cracked her in the face.

If you thought her traumatized, terrified moan was "orgasmic" you need to seek professional help. My skin crawled just reading the above.

Seems this forum is populated by two types: the first is people who really do appreciate travel and want to fuck sexy women of different cultures and races. Then there is a distinctive subset of weaklings who have obviously been emasculated by women. Those are the guys who say, "I traveled to country X and spent money and wore nice clothes and no chick fell all over me, country X is ruined!" These same sacks are the ones who think a woman deserves to be struck with a clenched fist in an animalistic rage. This kind of dude will also die a pussy, knowing he's weak inside to his last breath.

"Orgamic." Jesus... how wacko can you get.

Quote: (06-07-2012 02:03 PM)Fathom Wrote:  

Quote: (06-07-2012 11:22 AM)kosko Wrote:  

It almost seems she wanted it. With the Camera and evryething and her letting out a almost orgasmic whimper when he cracked her in the face.

If you thought her traumatized, terrified moan was "orgasmic" you need to seek professional help. Sicko.

Go fuck yourself. I've herd that type of moan a million times.



^ When you see a bitch bound up like that and getting slapped and prodded and her moaning in joy and cumming then come talk like that to me.

I know wtf I'm talking bout. She let out a moan of joy for a second before she bursted into tears. It sounded no different to the moans of bliss I hear in the dungeons.

woah hostility

That's a cute girl who could have found any number of kind men to take care of her and provide for the children.

She choose to be with a "thug."

Why should anyone care if she gets beat?

Quote: (06-07-2012 02:03 PM)Fathom Wrote:  

Quote: (06-07-2012 11:22 AM)kosko Wrote:  

It almost seems she wanted it. With the Camera and evryething and her letting out a almost orgasmic whimper when he cracked her in the face.

If you thought her traumatized, terrified moan was "orgasmic" you need to seek professional help. My skin crawled just reading the above.

You need to get out more if you're having hysterical/womanly reactions to words on a computer screen.

Many women do indeed desire punishment.

My ex would be outraged when I wouldn't hit her. "Be a man, hit me!"

I don't play the domestic violence lottery, so I didn't hit her.

Many women desire punishment and will act out to receive it.

I watched that video with sound off.

Her body language was extremely sexual. Look at how her legs spread. Her posture is very welcoming.

That is a girl who gets off (literally) on drama and violence.

Look, there are a lot of nice guys who'd love to be with her. We all know good guys who could never pull a cute like her.

Why isn't she with one of those nice guys?

Think before having a womanly reaction to something a man says.

It amazes me to see how many guys here who bitch about misandry and feminism conveniently find themselves unable to see that she hit him first (twice.) Her physical size, her skinny arms, small hands, etc, are irrelevant. She escalated and hit him first. Dismissing her behavior as being "sassy" is your rationalization hamster at work.

On the surface, feminism claims that we're all supposed to be equal. In reality, it says women are always victims, and therefore, they should be treated as "more than equal." But fuck that. That's not what they're saying, and we're not mind readers. They're saying they want equality. GIVE IT TO THEM. Take off your fucking blinders, put your hamsters back in their cages, and hold them to the same standard. Stop bringing up this bullshit about the difference in their sizes and strength. Stop defending and excusing her behavior because you want to fuck her. If the same scenario played out and she was a man with a small, slight build, you wouldn't be reacting this way. You would be accepting of it. You'd justify the size difference by pointing out that most fights are unevenly matched. You'd clearly see that the bigger guy was repeatedly provoked, which isn't something you do when you're "protecting myself."

I'm not saying that what he did was right. All I'm saying is that what she did was not right either. To risk getting a beat down in front of your kids over an old TV and a playstation is stupid. If you're really being threatened, let him have what he wants and call the cops when he leaves.

   

Quote: (06-07-2012 03:54 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  

It amazes me to see how many guys here who bitch about misandry and feminism conveniently find themselves unable to see that she hit him first (twice.) Her physical size, her skinny arms, small hands, etc, are irrelevant. She escalated and hit him first. Dismissing her behavior as being "sassy" is your rationalization hamster at work.

On the surface, feminism claims that we're all supposed to be equal. In reality, it says women are always victims, and therefore, they should be treated as "more than equal." But fuck that. That's not what they're saying, and we're not mind readers. They're saying they want equality. GIVE IT TO THEM. Take off your fucking blinders, put your hamsters back in their cages, and hold them to the same standard. Stop bringing up this bullshit about the difference in their sizes and strength. Stop defending and excusing her behavior because you want to fuck her. If the same scenario played out and she was a man with a small, slight build, you wouldn't be reacting this way. You would be accepting of it. You'd justify the size difference by pointing out that most fights are unevenly matched. You'd clearly see that the bigger guy was repeatedly provoked, which isn't something you do when you're "protecting myself."

I'm not saying that what he did was right. All I'm saying is that what she did was not right either. To risk getting a beat down in front of your kids over an old TV and a playstation is stupid. If you're really being threatened, let him have what he wants and call the cops when he leaves.

Personally, I find the knee-jerk reactions to feminism as annoying as I find feminism itself. If you're so weak-minded that you allow your wife, or ex-wife or whatever she is, to goad you into punching her dead in her facial features on video, I find it hard to have sympathy for you.

The day you find yourself standing in front of a judge (in either a custody hearing or a criminal trial) saying things like, "but your honor, she started it," is the day you have officially lost. What are the chances this guy can even get split custody of his kids now? Dude will be meeting his kids in Borders like the Kanye song. Why be that guy in the first place?

You can be the loser sitting around complaining how he got screwed by feminism or you can be smart and avoid the trouble all together. I know which path I prefer.

Quote: (06-07-2012 04:18 PM)j r Wrote:  

If you're so weak-minded that you allow your wife, or ex-wife or whatever she is, to goad you into punching her dead in her facial features on video, I find it hard to have sympathy for you.

Her hitting him first is considered goading now?