Just read both Bang and Game and have a solid setup in place for game but I fear the approach of women. I know most men have this same fear but I have no idea how to get rid of it. I have had a few relationships in the past that happened on accident I am not going to lie. I either bumped into the girl or she was at the right place at the right time.

Now I am 5ft 10, hit the gym 3-4 times a week, would consider myself not that ugly for a guy, strong jawline and beard, nice car, successful businessman and single early 30s. There's just a fear that I  cannot get over when approaching.

Looking at Roosh, I have no idea how he made so many approaches, I would say I am a bit better looking than Roosh and are a bit bigger but I guess he just never took no for an answer. Any suggestions?

(04-23-2024, 02:50 AM)leanandcuisine Wrote:  Just read both Bang and Game.

I have no idea how [Roosh] made so many approaches, ... but I guess he just never took no for an answer. Any suggestions?

Roosh wrote Bang when he was 27 and struggling to get laid.  He copied Neil Strauss's The Game, even the title!

https://rooshvforum.network/thread-69555...pid1849061

Game has banalities like:

"If you like Asian girls, go to Asia, … if you like black girls, go to Africa."
"[i]If she says she’s going to dance or use the bathroom, but doesn’t return to you, it means her interest level is low."[/i]

This advice did not even work for him.  He wrote:

[Due to poor planning, on] my first trips abroad … I never got laid.
Day Bang information was overkill.
The only goal I have during sex is to last at least three minutes.

He endured many failures and fat, ugly women.  He made many approaches by numbing himself with drugs and alcohol to endure boredom of hours alone in bars.  And he did not take no for an answer.

If she resists … don’t give up until you receive at least five clear no’s. After the third no: “I could use an opinion on my sofa.” After the fifth no: “Okay, well how about we just have a cup of tea? ... I’d try an infinite number of times until it was easier for the girl to say yes than to resist, or until she asked me to leave."

Try online game.  Most guys have bad pictures and bad profiles.  Read about online game, then try all sites to see where you do best, both paid and free sites.

Numbers game is for idiots who don't know what works.  Instead of cold approach, try warm approach.  60 Years of Challenge wrote about walking up to a girl and raising your glass for a clink.  He would not even say a word.  You can wink or blow her a kiss across the room.  If she smiles, then walk over and tell her why you noticed her.  Do not chase girls at the bathroom and then touch them from behind.

"Do a triple tap, possibly on girls walking back from the bathroom."

You can schedule online dates at a bar, and go out before or afterwards to meet people.

(04-24-2024, 12:22 AM)Archivist Wrote:  

(04-23-2024, 02:50 AM)leanandcuisine Wrote:  Just read both Bang and Game.

I have no idea how [Roosh] made so many approaches, ... but I guess he just never took no for an answer. Any suggestions?

Roosh wrote Bang when he was 27 and struggling to get laid.  He copied Neil Strauss's The Game, even the title!

https://rooshvforum.network/thread-69555...pid1849061

Game has banalities like:

"If you like Asian girls, go to Asia, … if you like black girls, go to Africa."
"[i]If she says she’s going to dance or use the bathroom, but doesn’t return to you, it means her interest level is low."[/i]

This advice did not even work for him.  He wrote:

[Due to poor planning, on] my first trips abroad … I never got laid.
Day Bang information was overkill.
The only goal I have during sex is to last at least three minutes.

He endured many failures and fat, ugly women.  He made many approaches by numbing himself with drugs and alcohol to endure boredom of hours alone in bars.  And he did not take no for an answer.

If she resists … don’t give up until you receive at least five clear no’s. After the third no: “I could use an opinion on my sofa.” After the fifth no: “Okay, well how about we just have a cup of tea? ... I’d try an infinite number of times until it was easier for the girl to say yes than to resist, or until she asked me to leave."

Try online game.  Most guys have bad pictures and bad profiles.  Read about online game, then try all sites to see where you do best, both paid and free sites.

Numbers game is for idiots who don't know what works.  Instead of cold approach, try warm approach.  60 Years of Challenge wrote about walking up to a girl and raising your glass for a clink.  He would not even say a word.  You can wink or blow her a kiss across the room.  If she smiles, then walk over and tell her why you noticed her.  Do not chase girls at the bathroom and then touch them from behind.

"Do a triple tap, possibly on girls walking back from the bathroom."

You can schedule online dates at a bar, and go out before or afterwards to meet people.

Idk it sounded like he was doing it right for a few years. I mean he spent 8 years overseas because of his game. I heard he used to sell pickup lines at clubs for $3 a piece then made his own novel.


Online game is garbage. tinder was perfect when it came out, now its full of oversized, over attention desperate, over indulged spoiled women, that you have to battle and under the watch of the algorithm that always makes you lose the second you start winning by leveling the battle field everyday. for me I had a lot of success with night game or day game. The apps have science that kicks in the second you win 1 time to make you lose.

what do you mean by schedule online dates at bar and go out before and afterwards? what does this mean?

(04-24-2024, 02:18 AM)leanandcuisine Wrote:  it sounded like he was doing it right for a few years. I mean he spent 8 years overseas because of his game. ...

Online game is garbage. tinder was perfect when it came out, now its full of oversized, over attention desperate, over indulged spoiled women

what do you mean by schedule online dates at bar and go out before and afterwards? what does this mean?

Do you really want to take advice from a 27-year-old who lived in his parent's basement and wrote "my first trips abroad … I never got laid."

He failed in developed countries (Canada, England, Denmark, Latvia).  Even in Ukraine, he reported no one-night stands and just met a girlfriend at work.  Roosh spent 8 years overseas because Montgomery County is expensive and he had lost his American job opportunities and friends!  Ignore obsessive internet weirdos with bad advice about love, money, and health.

Dating apps get worse over time.  So you must continually try new ones. Try them all, especially the large ones - Bumble, Hinge, Coffee Meets Bagel, Match, EHarmony, Badoo.  Read Blurred Sevens' post and get good professional pics.  Once you have good pictures and profile text, it is easy to experiment and swipe when you are doing nothing else.

You can spend six months getting good photos and trying all the dating apps.  Meanwhile, try speed-dating and other local singles events.  You can schedule an online dates for 7:00 and speed-dating at 8:00.  Then if the date does not work, you can proceed to speed dating or dancing or a bar.  You can even stack multiple dates on the same night at nearby bars.  It is cheap and efficient.  If you try everything, then you will learn what works.  This will also kill the thirst and nervousness.  When you have a pipeline of conversations across multiple apps, then you know you can get dates next week, and will not waste time on bad matches.

Or quit your job and stay out till 4:00 a.m. every night in a random third-world country.  If you try enough countries, one will probably work.

(04-24-2024, 02:06 PM)Archivist Wrote:  

(04-24-2024, 02:18 AM)leanandcuisine Wrote:  it sounded like he was doing it right for a few years. I mean he spent 8 years overseas because of his game. ...

Online game is garbage. tinder was perfect when it came out, now its full of oversized, over attention desperate, over indulged spoiled women

what do you mean by schedule online dates at bar and go out before and afterwards? what does this mean?

Do you really want to take advice from a 27-year-old who lived in his parent's basement and wrote "my first trips abroad … I never got laid."

He failed in developed countries (Canada, England, Denmark, Latvia).  Even in Ukraine, he reported no one-night stands and just met a girlfriend at work.  Roosh spent 8 years overseas because Montgomery County is expensive and he had lost his American job opportunities and friends!  Ignore obsessive internet weirdos with bad advice about love, money, and health.

Dating apps get worse over time.  So you must continually try new ones. Try them all, especially the large ones - Bumble, Hinge, Coffee Meets Bagel, Match, EHarmony, Badoo.  Read Blurred Sevens' post and get good professional pics.  Once you have good pictures and profile text, it is easy to experiment and swipe when you are doing nothing else.

You can spend six months getting good photos and trying all the dating apps.  Meanwhile, try speed-dating and other local singles events.  You can schedule an online dates for 7:00 and speed-dating at 8:00.  Then if the date does not work, you can proceed to speed dating or dancing or a bar.  You can even stack multiple dates on the same night at nearby bars.  It is cheap and efficient.  If you try everything, then you will learn what works.  This will also kill the thirst and nervousness.  When you have a pipeline of conversations across multiple apps, then you know you can get dates next week, and will not waste time on bad matches.

Or quit your job and stay out till 4:00 a.m. every night in a random third-world country.  If you try enough countries, one will probably work.

Bro thats not true, he got plenty of chicks I know some people from his original friend group and none of that is true. Guys would never another man for nothing, they would rather give that to a woman than a man, and yet men paid him for his expertise. He has a plan and you're a hater.

Online dating is just garbage, I tried on all those sites, I got like 30 matches. 15 ghosted me, 7 met up in person, 5 were fatter than their pics and 2 never called me back. I am following PUA tiktok and I am getting the courage now to approach in public.

why are you so against public approaches? are you a scared little pussy or something? sounds like it.

I'll take my chances with your last statement than let the elites pick which fat girl I have a chance with on these dating apps.

(04-25-2024, 03:41 PM)leanandcuisine Wrote:  

(04-24-2024, 02:06 PM)Archivist Wrote:  Do you really want to take advice from a 27-year-old who lived in his parent's basement and wrote "my first trips abroad … I never got laid."

He failed in developed countries (Canada, England, Denmark, Latvia).  Even in Ukraine, he reported no one-night stands and just met a girlfriend at work. 

Bro thats not true

It is indisputable that Roosh wrote Bang when he was 27, and I quoted his book about not getting laid.

(04-25-2024, 03:41 PM)leanandcuisine Wrote:  men paid him for his expertise.

Online dating is just garbage, I tried on all those sites, I got like 30 matches.

I am getting the courage now to approach in public. ... are you a scared little pussy or something? sounds like it.

I'll take my chances  ... [rather] than let the elites pick which fat girl I have a chance with on these dating apps.

Men did not pay him much.  Instead, Roosh tricked people into clicking on his site with viral "hate bait" viral marketing.  He made money off the traffic via Google ads.  The problem is that you can't trick people forever.  His tactics antagonized Amazon, Paypal, and Google until they demonetized him.  That's when he had a nervous breakdown, did mushrooms, and found Jesus.

This deceptive philosophy also contaminated his pick-up style with weasel game.  He asked women where to find a pet shop, cajoled them back to his apartment, and then got mad when they weren't DTF!

If you aren't getting matches, then your pictures, profile, and messaging game suck.  You simply haven't acquired the knowledge and put in the work.  The average quality is bad, but you can contact hundreds and thousands of women.  When you figure out online game, then you will understand what women want in live game.

You are simply calling me a pussy because you are scared to approach.  The famous day-gamers were all from NYC and London.  You need a large crowded city with lots of recreational/tourist traffic.  Otherwise, you are just harassing women like Addy A Game.  https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasg...l-18957379

(04-25-2024, 07:04 PM)Archivist Wrote:  

(04-25-2024, 03:41 PM)leanandcuisine Wrote:  

(04-24-2024, 02:06 PM)Archivist Wrote:  Do you really want to take advice from a 27-year-old who lived in his parent's basement and wrote "my first trips abroad … I never got laid."

He failed in developed countries (Canada, England, Denmark, Latvia).  Even in Ukraine, he reported no one-night stands and just met a girlfriend at work. 

Bro thats not true

It is indisputable that Roosh wrote Bang when he was 27, and I quoted his book about not getting laid.

(04-25-2024, 03:41 PM)leanandcuisine Wrote:  men paid him for his expertise.

Online dating is just garbage, I tried on all those sites, I got like 30 matches.

I am getting the courage now to approach in public. ... are you a scared little pussy or something? sounds like it.

I'll take my chances  ... [rather] than let the elites pick which fat girl I have a chance with on these dating apps.

Men did not pay him much.  Instead, Roosh tricked people into clicking on his site with viral "hate bait" viral marketing.  He made money off the traffic via Google ads.  The problem is that you can't trick people forever.  His tactics antagonized Amazon, Paypal, and Google until they demonetized him.  That's when he had a nervous breakdown, did mushrooms, and found Jesus.

This deceptive philosophy also contaminated his pick-up style with weasel game.  He asked women where to find a pet shop, cajoled them back to his apartment, and then got mad when they weren't DTF!

If you aren't getting matches, then your pictures, profile, and messaging game suck.  You simply haven't acquired the knowledge and put in the work.  The average quality is bad, but you can contact hundreds and thousands of women.  When you figure out online game, then you will understand what women want in live game.

You are simply calling me a pussy because you are scared to approach.  The famous day-gamers were all from NYC and London.  You need a large crowded city with lots of recreational/tourist traffic.  Otherwise, you are just harassing women like Addy A Game.  https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasg...l-18957379

Hi I started approaching, approached maybe 50 times in the past month or so and I got 7 numbers. It's hard but being single and using dating apps is even harder.

I am talking to women now whenever I go to the store or out for a walk, its really easy to just go ahead and say hello, rest is kind of hard but once the number is secured, its done.

Stop talking so bad about Roosh. He created this site and yet you rag him.

Dating apps are the worst, I have had at least a quarter of the matches in 30 days than I did on like 7 dating apps in 3 years. Yeah I am going to stick to approaching.